2 Wall Deals

pipfan · Post #1 » by **pipfan** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 1:49 am

Let's say Wash is still struggling next month. I highly doubt KD is interested in joining them. Obviously, they have a few nice, young pieces. Beal and Porter are a great start. I think they should maybe move Wall, and try to get some more high end, cheaper talent. A step back to make the future brighter.

1. This one I saw before-Wall for Noel and Philly's #1-no protection
Philly can't suck forever. Wall, Okafor and Covington is a nice start, and they still have hope for the Laker pick.

Wash gets an awesome defensive anchor. Noel/Beal/Porter-great defense, and 2 lottery picks this year-Philly's would be top 5

2. Wall for Exum/Lyles/Utah's unprotected #1 in 2016/2018 and the GS pick
Wash adds 2 great prospects and three picks.

Utah goes for it with their lead guard. They could move up to 4th in the West, and they would all hit their prime together.

Kings2013 · Post #2 » by **Kings2013** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 1:53 am

2 I might like for my viewing pleasure. I think Wall with current Jazz roster would be sick. I don't think Exum holds the value others do though, personally

Kilo · Post #3 » by **Kilo** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 1:53 am

U drunk?

Sportfan73 · Post #4 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 2:29 am

Wall for Okafor and Philly's pick would be more appropriate. Philly wouldn't want to pair Wall with Okafor. But regardless they will move Beal first for someone who fits with Wall, like Noel.

Dat2U · Post #5 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 4:38 am

Wall is the only certainty DC's got and he's signed long term on a cap friendly deal, why do we want to trade him again?

Austincys21 · Post #6 » by **Austincys21** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 5:31 am

Both are horrible

Wall has superstar value. Exum, Lyles, and a Warriors 1st. A Warriors? Lol

Coxy · Post #7 » by **Coxy** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 5:52 am

Austincys21 wrote:Both are horrible

Wall has superstar value. Exum, Lyles, and a Warriors 1st. A Warriors? Lol

With the way the Warriors are travelling, the NBA might not even give the Warriors a pick in the draft, lol.

pipfan · Post #8 » by **pipfan** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 7:00 pm

Noel and the philly pick are horrible? That, I am not seeing.

And Utah adds 2 picks too-not just the Warriors' pick.

I can see Wash holding on to Wall-but he is not a superstar-and I don't think he ever will be more than an All Star (which is plenty good)

mattao313 · Post #9 » by **mattao313** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 7:05 pm

Austincys21 wrote:Both are horrible

Wall has superstar value. Exum, Lyles, and a Warriors 1st. A Warriors? Lol

Wall is not a superstar and doesn't have the value of one, especially with how saturated the NBA is with guards.

Post #10 » by **nate33** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 7:23 pm

The Utah trade is a joke. The Philly trade is at least slightly better than lockworthy because of the unprotected pick. There is still no chance Washington would do it. You don't trade a sure thing (Wall) for a gamble. Not when Wall is still young and relatively cheap for a star.

Post #11 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 7:25 pm

The Wizards won't trade Wall so long as they're holding out hope of signing Durant next summer.

TGW · Post #12 » by **TGW** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 7:27 pm

Why would Philly even consider this? Wall is a current all-star playing on a decent team. Don't think he'd be too happy being traded to one of the worst teams in NBA history. He'd sulk until he got traded.

Maybe if the Sixers wanted Beal for that same package, we could talk.

Guzman_9 · Post #13 » by **Guzman_9** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 7:54 pm

Is there a way the Pacers could work a trade not including Paul George?

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Dat2U · Post #14 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 8:44 pm

mattao313 wrote:
Austincys21 wrote:Both are horrible

Wall has superstar value. Exum, Lyles, and a Warriors 1st. A Warriors? Lol

Wall is not a superstar and doesn't have the value of one, especially with how saturated the NBA is with guards.

I don't care how saturated with guards the NBA is, Wall is one of the best PGs and has a ton of value considering his age & contract. Outside of Curry & Westbrook... Wall would likely be the most popular option of GMs if were looking at all factors.

Dat2U · Post #15 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 8:45 pm

Guzman_9 wrote:Is there a way the Pacers could work a trade not including Paul George?

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Only if Solomon Hill can be included. :lol:

BadWolf · Post #16 » by **BadWolf** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 8:48 pm

Payton and Dipo for Wall and ?

mattao313 · Post #17 » by **mattao313** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 9:01 pm

Dat2U wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Austincys21 wrote:Both are horrible

Wall has superstar value. Exum, Lyles, and a Warriors 1st. A Warriors? Lol

Wall is not a superstar and doesn't have the value of one, especially with how saturated the NBA is with guards.

I don't care how saturated with guards the NBA is, Wall is one of the best PGs and has a ton of value considering his age & contract. Outside of Curry & Westbrook... Wall would likely be the most popular option of GMs if were looking at all factors.

I didn't say he doesn't have good value but not close to superstar value.

Jazzy13 · Post #18 » by **Jazzy13** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 9:02 pm

Wall would be near perfect for the current Jazz roster.
But I dont see him as a guy who would re-sign in Utah.

We would lose Exum's RFA rights for someone who may leave.
Also Wall has much higher value than this since Exum's injured and we dont know how he will turn out.

Dat2U · Post #19 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 9:18 pm

mattao313 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Wall is not a superstar and doesn't have the value of one, especially with how saturated the NBA is with guards.

I don't care how saturated with guards the NBA is, Wall is one of the best PGs and has a ton of value considering his age & contract. Outside of Curry & Westbrook... Wall would likely be the most popular option of GMs if were looking at all factors.

I didn't say he doesn't have good value but not close to superstar value.

What are you even saying. Not 'close to superstar' but 'good value'??? LOL, what does that even mean?

You really don't have to answer. The trade suggestions were ridiculous. The Wizards have no interest in moving Wall anyways. Most Wizards fans have no interest in moving Wall so this discussion is moot.

mattao313 · Post #20 » by **mattao313** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 9:21 pm

Dat2U wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
I don't care how saturated with guards the NBA is, Wall is one of the best PGs and has a ton of value considering his age & contract. Outside of Curry & Westbrook... Wall would likely be the most popular option of GMs if were looking at all factors.

I didn't say he doesn't have good value but not close to superstar value.

What are you even saying. Not 'close to superstar' but 'good value'??? LOL, what does that even mean?

You really don't have to answer. The trade suggestions were ridiculous. The Wizards have no interest in moving Wall anyways. Most Wizards fans have no interest in moving Wall so this discussion is moot.

I was replying to the guys comment not the trade proposal...and if you can't figure out the difference between good and superstar value I do know what to tell you.