Noel/Okafor trades that are not Bos/LA

Sportfan73 · Post #81 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:49 pm

Northern hoops wrote:Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, and Tyus Jones
Rounds out Philly's roster better and gives Minnesota their 5th starter

For Noel yes, Jah no

Post #82 » by **BullyKing** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:49 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, and Tyus Jones
Rounds out Philly's roster better and gives Minnesota their 5th starter

For Noel yes, Jah no

Why would this be of any interest to you at all?

Sportfan73 · Post #83 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:52 pm

BullyKing wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, and Tyus Jones
Rounds out Philly's roster better and gives Minnesota their 5th starter

For Noel yes, Jah no

Why would this be of any interest to you at all?

How about this

Philly trades Noel
Philly receives Tyus Jones, Brandon knight
Minnesota trades Shabazz, Dieng, Jones
Minnesota receives Noel
Phoenix trades Brandon knight
Phoenix receives Shabazz, Dieng

youngcrev · Post #84 » by **youngcrev** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:53 pm

Northern hoops wrote:Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, and Tyus Jones
Rounds out Philly's roster better and gives Minnesota their 5th starter

Not much interest in any of those pieces, nor do we really have the roster spots.

I like Jones, but I don't know where he fits into the mix of Bayless, Sergio and TJ at PG. Could be the best of that bunch... could be the 4th string.

Dieng is solid, but does nothing to help with the log jam, and it would be tough to fit into the rotation with Simmons, Saric, Okafor and Embiid.

Muhammad would probably be the 2nd best wing on the team after Covington... but that's not really saying much, and non-shooters aren't really a fit.

Maybe something like Shabazz and Minny's top-5 protected 1st could work for Noel. Or if there was a 3rd team that could give better fitting pieces for those guys.

Sportfan73 · Post #85 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:58 pm

youngcrev wrote:
Northern hoops wrote:Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, and Tyus Jones
Rounds out Philly's roster better and gives Minnesota their 5th starter

Not much interest in any of those pieces, nor do we really have the roster spots.

I like Jones, but I don't know where he fits into the mix of Bayless, Sergio and TJ at PG. Could be the best of that bunch... could be the 4th string.

Dieng is solid, but does nothing to help with the log jam, and it would be tough to fit into the rotation with Simmons, Saric, Okafor and Embiid.

Muhammad would probably be the 2nd best wing on the team after Covington... but that's not really saying much, and non-shooters aren't really a fit.

Maybe something like Shabazz and Minny's top-5 protected 1st could work for Noel. Or if there was a 3rd team that could give better fitting pieces for those guys.

Check up. Phoenix giving us Knight for Shabazz and Dieng

Post #86 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:59 pm

Cavs offer the rights to Osman and their 2020 1st unprotected for Noel.

Austincys21 · Post #87 » by **Austincys21** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:18 pm

Len, Warren, and Bledsoe for Oakfor and Filler

freshie2 · Post #88 » by **freshie2** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:52 pm

Northern hoops wrote:Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, and Tyus Jones
Rounds out Philly's roster better and gives Minnesota their 5th starter

For Noel? Intriguing for Philly. Jones has some potential and Dieng is an improved player as well. Muhammad is meh, but maybe someone else would want him in a flip. Phillystill needs shooters, but I prefer Jones as the young PG vs McConnell.

youngcrev · Post #89 » by **youngcrev** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:21 pm

How about Chicago as a possible destination?

Something like the higher of theirs or the Kings 2017 1st round picks (if it conveys) along with McBuckets or Valentine

Bulls get a young, high end defensive center (easily an upgrade on Lopez IMO). Sixers get a young shooter and a pick. Kinda underwhelming for the Sixers, but I'm expecting to be disappointed in the return at this point.

bigmean · Post #90 » by **bigmean** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:54 pm

In order of impact

New Orleans gets: Jerami Grant, Nik Staukas, Spencer Hawes

Milwaukee gets: Jahil Okafor, Jeremy Lamb, Carl Landry

Philly gets: Jabari Parker, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, John Henson, Omer Asik

Charlotte gets: Nerlens Noel, Tyreke Evans, Kendell Marshall,

New Orleans get a bunch of bench parts as fail safes for there offseason signing, this is also a massive salary dump. and they move off of Asik bad contract.

Milwaukee gets a transcendence center to complete there front line. comparisons to Greg Monroe are not apt, he is already more dominant then Monroe. Lamb is nice a shooter off the bench, perhaps sometimes spot starter. Landry is more a traditional power forward and should mustard 8ppg and 5rpg.

Philly gets there number one scorer in Parker and number one defender in MKG, they get two centers to spell Embiid, nothing flashy, they are taking salary to meet the cap floor. Its a little hard to imagine that your second and third 12.5 million and 10 million, but that is today's NBA

Charlotte gets a legitimate center to replace Jeffferson, Evans with expiring contract positional flexibility may be more valuable the MKG. Marshall is local throw in at third point guard.

liljsantino · Post #91 » by **liljsantino** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:36 am

Noel for Wade Baldwin n Grizzlies 2nd round pick

the_process · Post #92 » by **the_process** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:07 am

Austincys21 wrote:Len, Warren, and Bledsoe for Oakfor and Filler

HOU gets Len and Knight
PHI gets Beverley, Dekker, and 2017 HOU 1st top 3 protected
PHX gets Okafor

The War Report · Post #93 » by **The War Report** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:35 am

Here's a trade with both Okafor and Noel, and doesn't include Boston or LA:

Minn in: Jimmy Butler, Taj, McLemore
out: Dunn, Lavine, Pekovic, Shabazz

KAT/Dieng/Aldrich
Taj/Bjelica/J.Hill
Wiggins/Jimmy/B.Rush
Jimmy/McLemore
Rubio/T.Jones

Sac in: Dunn, Okafor, Pekovic, Shabazz, 1st returned from Bulls, approx $14 million TE
out: Cousins, Gay, McLemore

Okafor/Papagiannis/WCS
WCS/Tolliver/Casspi/Labissiere
Barnes/Shabazz/Casspi
Afflalo/Temple/Malachi
Dunn/Collison

Bulls in: Cousins, Noel, Landry (EC)
out: Jimmy, Taj, '17 SAC 1st

Noel/Boogie/Felicio
Boogie/Portis/Niko/Landry
Niko/McDermott
Wade/Valentine
Rondo/Grant/Dinwiddie

Sixers in: Lavine, Gay, Robin Lopez, McLemore
out: Okafor, Noel, Landry, cap space

Embiid/Rolo/R.Holmes
Simmons/Saric/Grant
Gay/Covington/Luwawu
Lavine/Henderson/Thompson
Sergio/Bayless/McConnell

the_process · Post #94 » by **the_process** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:05 am

The War Report wrote:Here's a trade with both Okafor and Noel, and doesn't include Boston or LA:

Minn in: Jimmy Butler, Taj, McLemore
out: Dunn, Lavine, Pekovic, Shabazz

KAT/Dieng/Aldrich
Taj/Bjelica/J.Hill
Wiggins/Jimmy/B.Rush
Jimmy/McLemore
Rubio/T.Jones

Sac in: Dunn, Okafor, Pekovic, Shabazz, 1st returned from Bulls, approx $14 million TE
out: Cousins, Gay, McLemore

Okafor/Papagiannis/WCS
WCS/Tolliver/Casspi/Labissiere
Barnes/Shabazz/Casspi
Afflalo/Temple/Malachi
Dunn/Collison

Bulls in: Cousins, Noel, Landry (EC)
out: Jimmy, Taj, '17 SAC 1st

Noel/Boogie/Felicio
Boogie/Portis/Niko/Landry
Niko/McDermott
Wade/Valentine
Rondo/Grant/Dinwiddie

Sixers in: Lavine, Gay, Robin Lopez, McLemore
out: Okafor, Noel, Landry, cap space

Embiid/Rolo/R.Holmes
Simmons/Saric/Grant
Gay/Covington/Luwawu
Lavine/Henderson/Thompson
Sergio/Bayless/McConnell

That resulting Minnesota squad would have some serious spacing issues.

MatthewGeigerII · Post #95 » by **MatthewGeigerII** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:39 pm

Philly In: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 mil)
Philly Out: Nerlens Noel ($4.4 mil)

Mil In: Nerlens Noel
Mil Out: Greg Monroe

SAS In: Greg Monroe ($17.1 Mil)
SAS Out: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 Mil)

*had to include those two players to make room for Monroe.. i know "the spurs don't want to get rid of green" and all that but they would need to (or parker) in order to make room... parker i would believe would stay.

trade based on the rumors of SAS wanting monroe and looking for third team.

Post #96 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:05 pm

MatthewGeigerII wrote:Philly In: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 mil)
Philly Out: Nerlens Noel ($4.4 mil)

Mil In: Nerlens Noel
Mil Out: Greg Monroe

SAS In: Greg Monroe ($17.1 Mil)
SAS Out: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 Mil)

*had to include those two players to make room for Monroe.. i know "the spurs don't want to get rid of green" and all that but they would need to (or parker) in order to make room... parker i would believe would stay.

trade based on the rumors of SAS wanting monroe and looking for third team.

Value feels off in a few places.

Post #97 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:07 pm

^ Bucks would love it.

MatthewGeigerII · Post #98 » by **MatthewGeigerII** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:09 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
MatthewGeigerII wrote:Philly In: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 mil)
Philly Out: Nerlens Noel ($4.4 mil)

Mil In: Nerlens Noel
Mil Out: Greg Monroe

SAS In: Greg Monroe ($17.1 Mil)
SAS Out: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 Mil)

*had to include those two players to make room for Monroe.. i know "the spurs don't want to get rid of green" and all that but they would need to (or parker) in order to make room... parker i would believe would stay.

trade based on the rumors of SAS wanting monroe and looking for third team.

Value feels off in a few places.

i feel monroe is valued a little high here BUT was going with the fact that he was "wanted" ... had originally the bucks including a 1st rounder (lotto protected for 2 years) to the sixers in the deal... same page with that one or the spurs falling short? remember they are the ones rumored to want monroe, going with that for fun whether it's true or smoke...

MatthewGeigerII · Post #99 » by **MatthewGeigerII** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:^ Bucks would love it.

i agree!

Philly In: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 mil), 2017 1st rounder (lottery protected for 2 years, then unprotected)
Philly Out: Nerlens Noel ($4.4 mil)

Mil In: Nerlens Noel
Mil Out: Greg Monroe, 2017 1st rounder (lottery protected for 2 years, then unprotected)

SAS In: Greg Monroe ($17.1 Mil)
SAS Out: Danny Green ($10 Mil), Patty Mills ($3.6 Mil)

originally had this but i knew bucks fans would say "if the spurs WANT monroe why would we give a first away with him?! " sorta thing :/ i like this one better though

youngcrev · Post #100 » by **youngcrev** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:24 pm

Why would the Spurs want Monroe?

Seems like a terrible fit with LA and Pau, and thats before you factor in them trading their starting SG and one of their top backups for him. And if they were willing to give up those guys, why take Monroe over Noel?