#27 for future 2nds?

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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#21 » by Wizop » Fri Mar 8, 2024 10:03 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Don’t know that Indy would, but the 3 seconds they got from Philly should be enough for 27. And I could see adding a player now versus later.


Pacers have multiple seconds in 24, 25, 28, 29, and 30 and no firsts in 24.
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#22 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Mar 8, 2024 10:27 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Don’t know that Indy would, but the 3 seconds they got from Philly should be enough for 27. And I could see adding a player now versus later.



Probably would, but Indy only got 2 2nds, I think. Third went to SA in that deal. But, same idea remains possible, as Indy has multiple future 2nds as Wizop points out above.

I do think Indy wouid have interest in converting that 37 into a first rounder for that 4th rookie contract year before restricted free agency.
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#23 » by basketballwacko2 » Fri Mar 8, 2024 11:18 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Don’t know that Indy would, but the 3 seconds they got from Philly should be enough for 27. And I could see adding a player now versus later.


I sorta thought about that, they'll likely have 13 contracts if Siakam is resigned it wouldn't hurt to add a low cost rookie but I'd think it depends on who is there when that pick comes up.
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#24 » by Wizop » Fri Mar 8, 2024 11:54 pm

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HartfordWhalers wrote:Don’t know that Indy would, but the 3 seconds they got from Philly should be enough for 27. And I could see adding a player now versus later.


I sorta thought about that, they'll likely have 13 contracts if Siakam is resigned it wouldn't hurt to add a low cost rookie but I'd think it depends on who is there when that pick comes up.


Our recent record picking at the bottom of the first and the top of the second is excellent. I think we could replace Doug.
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#25 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sat Mar 9, 2024 1:33 am

jayjaysee wrote:Presti just traded a (nearly?) guaranteed late first for a single swap. And was celebrated for getting it


That was a real swap, the Jazz would be trading for swapped swaps from the Bucks, the upside is much lower.

The Suns traded two swapped swaps for three future seconds from the Grizzlies and I think #27 should be able to get the 2028 and 2030 swapped swaps from the Bucks.
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#26 » by jayjaysee » Sat Mar 9, 2024 1:44 am

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jayjaysee wrote:Presti just traded a (nearly?) guaranteed late first for a single swap. And was celebrated for getting it


That was a real swap, the Jazz would be trading for swapped swaps from the Bucks, the upside is much lower.

The Suns traded two swapped swaps for three future seconds from the Grizzlies and I think #27 should be able to get the 2028 and 2030 swapped swaps from the Bucks.


One of those swaps was 2024 though. Sure, there’s always a chance Booker and KD missed 40 games.. But I think this season’s record is worse than Phoenix expected/believed. And they’re still picking in the bottom 10..

You’re asking for two distant swaps. There’s a bit of a big difference.

But I do see people offering 3 seconds for 27th. And that seems fair. So the Phoenix/Memphis trade is a good comparison, just think comparing a 2024 swap from a team with KD/Booker to an unknown swap in 2028 adds real variance, thus value.
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#27 » by jayjaysee » Sat Mar 9, 2024 2:49 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:The most interesting trade I could come up with for the Jazz is the Jazz gaining the right to trade their worst 2028 and 2030 picks for the worst of the Bucks/Blazers picks in 2028 and 2030.

It's not clear either of the Bucks or Blazers will be good in 2028 or 2030 so these swaps could be valuable.

Meanwhile, this is pretty much the Bucks drawing blood from a stone to get an asset for depth.


No interest in recycling a team like Presti does with Denver and LAC?

LAL - they still have clean swaps in 2026 or 2028 and should be looking to add cheap talent or immediate trade assets..

Minnesota - A clean swap in 2028? Minnesota would end up with three picks between 24-38.. would help fill their bench the next couple seasons while they live over the tax..
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#28 » by Clav » Sat Mar 9, 2024 2:54 am

Can teams trade 2nd picks as pick swaps also?
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#29 » by jayjaysee » Sat Mar 9, 2024 3:08 am

Clav wrote:Can teams trade 2nd picks as pick swaps also?


Yeah, there’s a handful of 2nd round swaps already floating out there.

Not sure how valuable they are considered but they exist
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#30 » by pipfan » Sat Mar 9, 2024 6:04 am

Would Bulls do the future Port 1st (lotto protected until '28) for the #28 pick?
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Re: #27 for future 2nds? 

Post#31 » by NYG » Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:31 am

I wonder if the Suns would trade 21 for 4 2nds just to have more things to trade down the line?

Nurkic and Team X Pick to Orlando

WCJ and 4 Magic 2nds to Phoenix

21 via Suns and 19 via Magic to Team X

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