Does Danny Ainge accept this trade?

[Gert42]

George
Ivey
Buzelis or Williams (#8)
Hendricks
Sarr (#1)

Very interesting young core.

And don't forget Top 1-4 pick in 2025 because that team is going to lose 65 games!

[JennetteMcCurdy]

If that were the case, Miami/Denver/Philly (and Chicago prior and other teams) wouldn’t have the pick debts they have.

It’s a conditional first and legal. It’s up to Utah to accept the condition obviously, but the 2027 first is available for trade...

People said the same thing about Portland last year… So I know a lot of people think that way.

Been through this many times - Detroit can’t trade their future FRP until 2029, as they have no idea when they’ll be good enough to satisfy the pick to the Knicks. Can’t put 2025-28 in a trade until they’re good enough to lose the pick. And that’s not happening soon.

I just gave you 3 real NBA current examples of teams they have traded firsts that may not convey the same year due to previous pick debt..

And your response was just that you have been through it many times?

But I guess I’ll go further and show why I feel I am right.

2025 first round draft pick to Orlando
Denver's 1st round pick to Orlando protected for selections 1-5 in 2025, 1-5 in 2026 and 1-5 in 2027 (

2027 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
At least two years after Denver conveys a 1st round pick to Orlando or in 2029 if this pick is not conveyed to Orlando, Denver's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-5 in 2027, 1-5 in 2028 and 1-5 in 2029

2029 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
Only if and at least two years after Denver conveys a first potential 1st round pick to Oklahoma City, Denver's second potential 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-5 in 2029 and 1-5 in 2030

Denver owes a 2025 first that may not convey until 2027 and somehow traded their 2027 first. And after trading the 2027 first, somehow traddd the 2029 first that may not have a chance to convey if the 2027 first doesn’t convey until 2029…

You can look up Philadelphia or Miami and see the exact same thing, but on picks with a bit higher protection.

The 2026 pick is only top 11 protected. So Ainge (or other teams) would believe Detroit should/could improve enough to convey it…

right to swap 2025 Detroit first with Minnesota/Cleveland first (if not conveyed to NY)..
right to swap 2026 Detroit first (if not conveyed to NY…
Right to swap 2027 Detroit first with Minnesota/Cleveland first (if not conveyed to NY in 2025)
Detroit 2028 first (if first conveyed to NY by 2026)
Right to swap 2029 Detroit first with Minnesota/Cleveland first (if not conveyed to NY in 2025)
Detroit 2030 first

Draft assets: Detroit owes a first-round pick to New York that is top-12 protected in 2025, top-10 protected in 2026 and top-nine protected in 2027. The next available first-round pick the Pistons can trade is in 2029. They have no incoming first-round picks via trade. They have nine second-round picks available

Per ESPN: you are wrong

[jayjaysee]

Been through this many times - Detroit can’t trade their future FRP until 2029, as they have no idea when they’ll be good enough to satisfy the pick to the Knicks. Can’t put 2025-28 in a trade until they’re good enough to lose the pick. And that’s not happening soon.

I just gave you 3 real NBA current examples of teams they have traded firsts that may not convey the same year due to previous pick debt..

And your response was just that you have been through it many times?

But I guess I’ll go further and show why I feel I am right.

2025 first round draft pick to Orlando
Denver's 1st round pick to Orlando protected for selections 1-5 in 2025, 1-5 in 2026 and 1-5 in 2027 (

2027 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
At least two years after Denver conveys a 1st round pick to Orlando or in 2029 if this pick is not conveyed to Orlando, Denver's 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-5 in 2027, 1-5 in 2028 and 1-5 in 2029

2029 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
Only if and at least two years after Denver conveys a first potential 1st round pick to Oklahoma City, Denver's second potential 1st round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 1-5 in 2029 and 1-5 in 2030

Denver owes a 2025 first that may not convey until 2027 and somehow traded their 2027 first. And after trading the 2027 first, somehow traddd the 2029 first that may not have a chance to convey if the 2027 first doesn’t convey until 2029…

You can look up Philadelphia or Miami and see the exact same thing, but on picks with a bit higher protection.

The 2026 pick is only top 11 protected. So Ainge (or other teams) would believe Detroit should/could improve enough to convey it…

right to swap 2025 Detroit first with Minnesota/Cleveland first (if not conveyed to NY)..
right to swap 2026 Detroit first (if not conveyed to NY…
Right to swap 2027 Detroit first with Minnesota/Cleveland first (if not conveyed to NY in 2025)
Detroit 2028 first (if first conveyed to NY by 2026)
Right to swap 2029 Detroit first with Minnesota/Cleveland first (if not conveyed to NY in 2025)
Detroit 2030 first

Draft assets: Detroit owes a first-round pick to New York that is top-12 protected in 2025, top-10 protected in 2026 and top-nine protected in 2027. The next available first-round pick the Pistons can trade is in 2029. They have no incoming first-round picks via trade. They have nine second-round picks available

Per ESPN: you are wrong

Okay… Only Detroit is limited like that. Makes sense.

Miami just did this 3 months ago with Terry Rozier… ESPN must be very upset at them. This isn’t some obscure small trade precedent from 20 years ago…

[Catchall]

Jazz might be willing to trade up in the draft in pursuit of Sarr or Topic. However, they wouldn't be willing to offer Lauri to do it. This just isn't a strong enough draft.

Ivey is interesting, but I don't think he's a better young prospect than Castle or Collier.