Suns 2024 1st + Little

[Crives]

What does little + Suns 2024 1st get them this offseason?

If reports are true that suns are looking to retain Royce after resigning Allen, I think it’s pretty likely little gets moved in the offseason and packaged with their 24 1st. Most likely looking for someone to absorb little into cap space with a seconds coming back.

[NYG]

What does little + Suns 2024 1st get them this offseason?

If reports are true that suns are looking to retain Royce after resigning Allen, I think it’s pretty likely little gets moved in the offseason and packaged with their 24 1st. Most likely looking for someone to absorb little into cap space with a seconds coming back.

Nurkic and '31 1st for Walker Kessler / '24 1st and Little for Carter and Caruso

[Godaddycurse]

What does little + Suns 2024 1st get them this offseason?

If reports are true that suns are looking to retain Royce after resigning Allen, I think it’s pretty likely little gets moved in the offseason and packaged with their 24 1st. Most likely looking for someone to absorb little into cap space with a seconds coming back.

Nurkic and '31 1st for Walker Kessler / '24 1st and Little for Carter and Caruso

1) Suns owe 2025 1st, so they can't trade 2024 1st until its been selected for a player
2) Suns are in 2nd apron so they can't combine multiple players (ie 24 pick and little) in a trade. Have to be separate transactions
3) they can only take back player(s) making less than Little

[NYG]

What does little + Suns 2024 1st get them this offseason?

If reports are true that suns are looking to retain Royce after resigning Allen, I think it’s pretty likely little gets moved in the offseason and packaged with their 24 1st. Most likely looking for someone to absorb little into cap space with a seconds coming back.

Nurkic and '31 1st for Walker Kessler / '24 1st and Little for Carter and Caruso

1) Suns owe 2025 1st, so they can't trade 2024 1st until its been selected for a player
2) Suns are in 2nd apron so they can't combine multiple players (ie 24 pick and little) in a trade. Have to be separate transactions
3) they can only take back player(s) making less than Little

Nurkic and '31 1st to Jazz
Draft rights to '24 1st (picked for Chicago) to Bulls
Caruso and Kessler to Suns

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Little for Carter

[jredsaz]

Nurkic and '31 1st for Walker Kessler / '24 1st and Little for Carter and Caruso

1) Suns owe 2025 1st, so they can't trade 2024 1st until its been selected for a player
2) Suns are in 2nd apron so they can't combine multiple players (ie 24 pick and little) in a trade. Have to be separate transactions
3) they can only take back player(s) making less than Little

Nurkic and '31 1st to Jazz
Draft rights to '24 1st (picked for Chicago) to Bulls
Caruso and Kessler to Suns

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Little for Carter

You think the Jazz do that?

[Slim Charless]

Nurkic and '31 1st for Walker Kessler / '24 1st and Little for Carter and Caruso

1) Suns owe 2025 1st, so they can't trade 2024 1st until its been selected for a player
2) Suns are in 2nd apron so they can't combine multiple players (ie 24 pick and little) in a trade. Have to be separate transactions
3) they can only take back player(s) making less than Little

Nurkic and '31 1st to Jazz
Draft rights to '24 1st (picked for Chicago) to Bulls
Caruso and Kessler to Suns

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Little for Carter

Not sure if the Jazz need another bigman.

I think the Thunder would be a Nurk team. They need his size as will soon be shone over the next few weeks how small they are. He and Chet would be a good pairing. I'd rather send him there for the OTHER Jaylin Williams and assorted picks over the next few yrs.

[jayjaysee]

I was looking at Chicago with Carter, but they don’t own a second for a few years.. So don’t think Phoenix does that even though they clear a year of Little.. Unless you can get a third team involved I guess.

Detroit has Troy Brown Jr? Maybe him, New Yorks 2nd and a future second?

Nick Richards, Houston 2nd and a future 2nd?

Those two probably don’t work as they can both be expirings. Taking on two years of Little and giving up multiple assets just for a late first..

I think Little is really tough though, such a small contract and still so overpaid for multiple years.

I think Phoenix would be better off just trading 23rd for multiple later picks and filling an extra roster spot or two.. Utah 29 and 32.. Portland 33 and 40.. SAS same type. something around that.

[R-DAWG]

I was looking at Chicago with Carter, but they don’t own a second for a few years.. So don’t think Phoenix does that even though they clear a year of Little.. Unless you can get a third team involved I guess.

Detroit has Troy Brown Jr? Maybe him, New Yorks 2nd and a future second?

Nick Richards, Houston 2nd and a future 2nd?

Those two probably don’t work as they can both be expirings. Taking on two years of Little and giving up multiple assets just for a late first..

I think Little is really tough though, such a small contract and still so overpaid for multiple years.

I think Phoenix would be better off just trading 23rd for multiple later picks and filling an extra roster spot or two.. Utah 29 and 32.. Portland 33 and 40.. SAS same type. something around that.

It's hard to find players to match within 10% of Little's salary - your limited to players on room mid level or rookie scale deals.

[ChettheJet]

I would think that the Bulls would like to get more than the now #23 pick, hey anybody can complain but if PHO or anybody else really wanted Caruso at the deadline to have more than his expiring year, they should offered enough.

The Bulls have less than zero interest in Little. Today they have Caruso, White, Dosunmu, Green, Terry, Bitim and that's not counting Lavine and DeRozan ALL in the 6-5 to 6-7 range to be there at the 1-3 positions and some at the 4, no need for another guy or same size replacement.

[Scoot McGroot]

Nurkic and '31 1st for Walker Kessler / '24 1st and Little for Carter and Caruso

1) Suns owe 2025 1st, so they can't trade 2024 1st until its been selected for a player
2) Suns are in 2nd apron so they can't combine multiple players (ie 24 pick and little) in a trade. Have to be separate transactions
3) they can only take back player(s) making less than Little

Nurkic and '31 1st to Jazz
Draft rights to '24 1st (picked for Chicago) to Bulls
Caruso and Kessler to Suns

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Little for Carter

By the time the 2031 1st is legally tradeable (after the first round is over), Phoenix will be ineligible to trade it as it will be frozen in the new transaction rules for being at or over the 2nd apron.

[Scoot McGroot]

I was looking at Chicago with Carter, but they don’t own a second for a few years.. So don’t think Phoenix does that even though they clear a year of Little.. Unless you can get a third team involved I guess.

Detroit has Troy Brown Jr? Maybe him, New Yorks 2nd and a future second?

Nick Richards, Houston 2nd and a future 2nd?

Those two probably don’t work as they can both be expirings. Taking on two years of Little and giving up multiple assets just for a late first..

I think Little is really tough though, such a small contract and still so overpaid for multiple years.

I think Phoenix would be better off just trading 23rd for multiple later picks and filling an extra roster spot or two.. Utah 29 and 32.. Portland 33 and 40.. SAS same type. something around that.

It's hard to find players to match within 10% of Little's salary - your limited to players on room mid level or rookie scale deals.

Phoenix will be limited to trading Little for his salary or less as a second apron team. They won’t be allowed to aggregate him or trade him for more than 100% of his salary.

[NYG]

1) Suns owe 2025 1st, so they can't trade 2024 1st until its been selected for a player
2) Suns are in 2nd apron so they can't combine multiple players (ie 24 pick and little) in a trade. Have to be separate transactions
3) they can only take back player(s) making less than Little

Nurkic and '31 1st to Jazz
Draft rights to '24 1st (picked for Chicago) to Bulls
Caruso and Kessler to Suns

===

Little for Carter

By the time the 2031 1st is legally tradeable (after the first round is over), Phoenix will be ineligible to trade it as it will be frozen in the new transaction rules for being at or over the 2nd apron.

So they can't trade both picks in 1 deal?

[Godaddycurse]

Nurkic and '31 1st to Jazz
Draft rights to '24 1st (picked for Chicago) to Bulls
Caruso and Kessler to Suns

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Little for Carter

By the time the 2031 1st is legally tradeable (after the first round is over), Phoenix will be ineligible to trade it as it will be frozen in the new transaction rules for being at or over the 2nd apron.

So they can't trade both picks in 1 deal?

they cant trade 2031 period is my understanding

[Scoot McGroot]

Nurkic and '31 1st to Jazz
Draft rights to '24 1st (picked for Chicago) to Bulls
Caruso and Kessler to Suns

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Little for Carter

By the time the 2031 1st is legally tradeable (after the first round is over), Phoenix will be ineligible to trade it as it will be frozen in the new transaction rules for being at or over the 2nd apron.

So they can't trade both picks in 1 deal?

They won’t be able to trade the 2031 at all as it’ll be “frozen” before potentially being moved to the end of the first round (at which point it would still be frozen).

[Crives]

By the time the 2031 1st is legally tradeable (after the first round is over), Phoenix will be ineligible to trade it as it will be frozen in the new transaction rules for being at or over the 2nd apron.

So they can't trade both picks in 1 deal?

They won’t be able to trade the 2031 at all as it’ll be “frozen” before potentially being moved to the end of the first round (at which point it would still be frozen).

I am pretty sure frozen period starts 2032

[Scoot McGroot]

So they can't trade both picks in 1 deal?

They won’t be able to trade the 2031 at all as it’ll be “frozen” before potentially being moved to the end of the first round (at which point it would still be frozen).

I am pretty sure frozen period starts 2032

Beginning with the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year, if a team’s Team Salary exceeds the Second Apron Level in a Salary Cap Year, then its first round draft pick in the seventh Draft following the last day of the Salary Cap Year (the “Frozen Pick”) will be frozen, meaning the pick may not be traded.

7 drafts out would be the 2031 draft. If they really mean it would only freeze 2032 if a team is over the 2nd apron only on the very last day of the season (whereas all other new cap rules, if an apron level is crossed, a trigger is enacted and the team is treated that way for the entirety of the season), that’s possible. But it’d be weird to have it set out as a completely separate exclusion from the way they treat the rest of all their apron rules is all.

[sip]

I think Little and the pick to the jazz for the 32nd pick makes sense.

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[DayofMourning]

Caleb Martin?

[R-DAWG]

I was looking at Chicago with Carter, but they don’t own a second for a few years.. So don’t think Phoenix does that even though they clear a year of Little.. Unless you can get a third team involved I guess.

Detroit has Troy Brown Jr? Maybe him, New Yorks 2nd and a future second?

Nick Richards, Houston 2nd and a future 2nd?

Those two probably don’t work as they can both be expirings. Taking on two years of Little and giving up multiple assets just for a late first..

I think Little is really tough though, such a small contract and still so overpaid for multiple years.

I think Phoenix would be better off just trading 23rd for multiple later picks and filling an extra roster spot or two.. Utah 29 and 32.. Portland 33 and 40.. SAS same type. something around that.

It's hard to find players to match within 10% of Little's salary - your limited to players on room mid level or rookie scale deals.

Phoenix will be limited to trading Little for his salary or less as a second apron team. They won’t be allowed to aggregate him or trade him for more than 100% of his salary.

Thanks for clarifying. So PHX really needs to be targeting guys entering the 4th year of their rookie deal where the team is hesitant to extend them and would prefer to re-start the rookie clock on another player. Quentin Grimes on Detroit seems to fit this mold. Maybe Corey Kispert on Washington as well. Although people aren't excited about the upside of this draft, there are quality role players to be had with the 20th pick.

[Scoot McGroot]

Caleb Martin?

He'd have to opt out and sign for less money, as Phoenix can't trade Little for a penny more than Nasir makes in return. And if it's an opt out for less, then Phoenix can't receive him via sign and trade, and a 2024 1st can't really be combined as it'd be clear signs of tampering. And if it's not an opt out, again, Phoenix can't trade Little for Martin legally, and Phoenix can't aggregate another salary with Little.

Second apron is going to make things tough.