Where does DeMar go?

[toooskies]

I think DeRozen has 2 possible futures, regardless of team. He could either be (1) a killer 6th-man on a contender, or (2) a culture setter on a young team.

Option 1 would likely mean ring-chasing, and his salary would probably top out around the NTMLE

Options 2 could get him paid pretty handsomely. I'd love him on the Pistons as a culture setter, and we could easily afford to overpay him on a near-max 2 year deal.

For option 1, the Cavs may want to turn LeVert into DeRozan like they turned Osman into Strus. Particularly if they make other moves for fit.

[DaddyCool19]

How about Philly, if they can't land Paul George?

[LofJ]

I think he'll end up signing with the Thunder. They need some savvy veterans and they're on the verge of competing for a championship. It they offer him a contract it's hard to see DeRozan turning it down, he couldn't ask for a better fit/opportunity at this point in his career.

[MessiahUjiri]

How about Philly, if they can't land Paul George?

Philly makes the most sense.

They can offer him good money, a chance to win, and unite with Kyle Lowry and Nick Nurse. That’s a trifecta.

Anything other than Philly is a huge tradeoff on something (eg a big discount to play in LA)


Imagine Philly comes out with this:


Maxey / DDR /Oubre / Harris / Embiid
Lowry / Buddy / Batum / Reid


Maybe add another backcourt defender in there, and that is a championship level roster IMO.

[toooskies]

How about Philly, if they can't land Paul George?

Philly makes the most sense.

They can offer him good money, a chance to win, and unite with Kyle Lowry and Nick Nurse. That’s a trifecta.

Anything other than Philly is a huge tradeoff on something (eg a big discount to play in LA)


Imagine Philly comes out with this:


Maxey / DDR /Oubre / Harris / Embiid
Lowry / Buddy / Batum / Reid


Maybe add another backcourt defender in there, and that is a championship level roster IMO.

Philly can't both offer DDR a lot of money as well as keep Buddy/Oubre/Harris, and Batum is retiring.

[wegotthabeet]

Lakers S&T.

[jibba jones]

He could get paid in Orlando.
Up and coming team that could use his offense and experience.

[jjohns828]

He could get paid in Orlando.
Up and coming team that could use his offense and experience.

I really think the offensive upgrade we need is at PG and needs to include 3pt shooting so I don't really see him as being a good fit.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Philly or The Knicks make the most sense. Philly could use a go to scorer to take pressure off Embiid and Maxey especially when Embiid goes down.

New York does this if they miss out on Mitchell.

[neno]

Nothing wrong with DeRozan that a celtics jersey couldn't fix

[MessiahUjiri]

How about Philly, if they can't land Paul George?

Philly makes the most sense.

They can offer him good money, a chance to win, and unite with Kyle Lowry and Nick Nurse. That’s a trifecta.

Anything other than Philly is a huge tradeoff on something (eg a big discount to play in LA)


Imagine Philly comes out with this:


Maxey / DDR /Oubre / Harris / Embiid
Lowry / Buddy / Batum / Reid


Maybe add another backcourt defender in there, and that is a championship level roster IMO.

Philly can't both offer DDR a lot of money as well as keep Buddy/Oubre/Harris, and Batum is retiring.

Good catch on Batum.

Philly has bird rights on Buddy & Harris, so they should be able to exceed the cap and resign them. I imagine offering Oubre the MLE.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Nothing wrong with DeRozan that a celtics jersey couldn't fix

What does a DeRozan to Boston deal look like? Can Boston fit in DeRozan, Tatum, Brown, White, Porzingis and Holiday? Holiday or Porzingis probably would have to go and both are more important to their team than DeRozan.

[jibba jones]

He could get paid in Orlando.
Up and coming team that could use his offense and experience.

I really think the offensive upgrade we need is at PG and needs to include 3pt shooting so I don't really see him as being a good fit.

I agree but what ideal point is out there? I dont think they pay for Trae Young and are more likely to target a guy like Ty Jones (who they could afford to add in conjunction with Demar).

I just think talent in the backcourt is talent in the backcourt and should add at the 1 or the 2. I like what he would bring and all he would cost is money.

[Fencer reregistered]

Philly makes the most sense.

They can offer him good money, a chance to win, and unite with Kyle Lowry and Nick Nurse. That’s a trifecta.

Anything other than Philly is a huge tradeoff on something (eg a big discount to play in LA)


Imagine Philly comes out with this:


Maxey / DDR /Oubre / Harris / Embiid
Lowry / Buddy / Batum / Reid


Maybe add another backcourt defender in there, and that is a championship level roster IMO.

Philly can't both offer DDR a lot of money as well as keep Buddy/Oubre/Harris, and Batum is retiring.

Good catch on Batum.

Philly has bird rights on Buddy & Harris, so they should be able to exceed the cap and resign them. I imagine offering Oubre the MLE.

Can Philly get seriously under the cap without renouncing the FAs it wants to keep?

[Fencer reregistered]

Nothing wrong with DeRozan that a celtics jersey couldn't fix

What does a DeRozan to Boston deal look like? Can Boston fit in DeRozan, Tatum, Brown, White, Porzingis and Holiday? Holiday or Porzingis probably would have to go and both are more important to their team than DeRozan.

The fit is hard to see.

Nor will it be easy for the Cs to pay more than minimum salary, given the various salary cap rules.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Nothing wrong with DeRozan that a celtics jersey couldn't fix

What does a DeRozan to Boston deal look like? Can Boston fit in DeRozan, Tatum, Brown, White, Porzingis and Holiday? Holiday or Porzingis probably would have to go and both are more important to their team than DeRozan.

The fit is hard to see.

Nor will it be easy for the Cs to pay more than minimum salary, given the various salary cap rules.

This is why I quoted "neno" DeRozan isn't going sign for the MLE or league minimum for Boston. Boston is a very good team and moving 2 if not 3 of White/Holiday/Porzingis/Horford is asinine just to get DeRozan.

Is OKC a sneaky/dark horse team? They are right there to compete and renouncing the cap hold of Hayward should get them the money they need. Shai and DeRozan would be a good fit

[JustBuzzin]

Yeah seems like Philly might be his destination. His best friend is Lowry. They most likely will miss out on Paul George. Derozan is the next best wing available.

[Bentley1225]

I think the Sixers make a strong push for him as a 3rd wheel because Tobias Harris will get a bloated contract again given lack of options for 4s in free agency. Bulls or Sixers.

[toooskies]

Philly makes the most sense.

They can offer him good money, a chance to win, and unite with Kyle Lowry and Nick Nurse. That’s a trifecta.

Anything other than Philly is a huge tradeoff on something (eg a big discount to play in LA)


Imagine Philly comes out with this:


Maxey / DDR /Oubre / Harris / Embiid
Lowry / Buddy / Batum / Reid


Maybe add another backcourt defender in there, and that is a championship level roster IMO.

Philly can't both offer DDR a lot of money as well as keep Buddy/Oubre/Harris, and Batum is retiring.

Good catch on Batum.

Philly has bird rights on Buddy & Harris, so they should be able to exceed the cap and resign them. I imagine offering Oubre the MLE.

Bird Rights come with a cap hold for the player's expected salary, which typically includes a hefty raise built into the cap number. If you want to use your hypothetical space, you have to rescind the cap holds, which means you lose their Bird rights. If you, say, re-sign Hield and Harris to lower numbers that's fine, but they're never lower on the cap than their new salary. If you re-sign any of them you reduce the available cap space you have. Harris has a $46m cap hold and Hield's is $29m. (Melton's is $15m and RoCo's is $17.5m.)

Maxey's salary allows you to circumvent the cap some (his cap hold is $13m and he'll make $40m or so-- you do all your other offseason signings and then extend him last in the contract signing order, even though you might come to an agreement as soon as free agency opens). But in the scenarios where they offer DeRozan $25m+, they're likely losing Buddy and/or Harris unless they're giving Philly a discount. They might keep Oubre at the MLE but that means no one else is offering him that or more.

[cgf]

Chicago probably gives him big money for 2 years and an option and he sticks around.

This has been my expectation, but those recent comments make me wonder if he isn't still tempted to ring chase...despite how much he's seemed to embrace his role in Chicago as an on court leader and mentor for those young bulls.