Magic & Rockets

[ThatBoyNick]

Jalen Green for Jonathan Isaac

For Rockets - This is in mind of Houston taking Sheppard or Topic at #3, committing to another backcourt player requires us to open up space, and Houston committing to Sengun long term and preparing to pay him. Isaac is an ideal fit next to Sengun for matchups that require more rim protection.

For Magic - Lands the backcourt shot creator they need. Ideally, Jalen becomes a more consistent perimeter shooter to be the perfect fit.

A risk for both teams here, Orlando is banking on Jalens potential to become a more efficient shooter, and Houston is banking on Isaacs health / ability to re-sign him in a year as UFA. Could pan out perfect for both teams though.

[Kiss of Death]

Houston wouldn't do this trade.
They currently have 2 true guards on the team, Jalen & FVV (Amen and Cam are wings).
Drafting a guard that will not even start does not mean that you have to trade your starting SG.

[BK_2020]

I can convince myself Jalen Green might become a decent scorer but I don't think there's a chance Isaac will average 65 games a season and most of the playoff games in the next 5 years. And even if he's healthy what is he, a defensive specialist wing who can't make open threes. Not even worth a Jalen Green imho.

[K_chile22]

I can convince myself Jalen Green might become a decent scorer but I don't think there's a chance Isaac will average 65 games a season and most of the playoff games in the next 5 years. And even if he's healthy what is he, a defensive specialist wing who can't make open threes. Not even worth a Jalen Green imho.

Yeah I'm not a big Jalen fan at all but also not a fan of a 15 mpg defense only guy on an expiring deal. Think playoffs showed he's less effective in roles bigger than that

[Residual-Heat]

I can convince myself Jalen Green might become a decent scorer but I don't think there's a chance Isaac will average 65 games a season and most of the playoff games in the next 5 years. And even if he's healthy what is he, a defensive specialist wing who can't make open threes. Not even worth a Jalen Green imho.

yeah if you completely ignore the fact he's also a great rim protector, very good rebounder and shot 38% from 3 this season. but other than that you are correct.

[jayjaysee]

If Isaac is willing to agree to an unguaranteed extension year by year again, I’d give him an extra 10-15 million next year in a renegotiation to drop him back down.. tie in the max performance based incentives possible. Pay him 30 million next year and then drop his future season below 20 mil and don’t guarantee them all..


I don’t know if Jalen Green is the answer, and don’t think he is the answer for any team.. but Houston should turn this down. They have Sengun/Bari and Eason. they don’t need to take a risk on another big. Need to allocate whatever value they are using on finding their guards of the future..

[BK_2020]

I can convince myself Jalen Green might become a decent scorer but I don't think there's a chance Isaac will average 65 games a season and most of the playoff games in the next 5 years. And even if he's healthy what is he, a defensive specialist wing who can't make open threes. Not even worth a Jalen Green imho.

yeah if you completely ignore the fact he's also a great rim protector, very good rebounder and shot 38% from 3 this season. but other than that you are correct.

Bro took 100 threes the whole year. His percentage "this season" doesn't mean anything. Three-point shooting talent takes 700+ attempts to stabilize.

[Residual-Heat]

I can convince myself Jalen Green might become a decent scorer but I don't think there's a chance Isaac will average 65 games a season and most of the playoff games in the next 5 years. And even if he's healthy what is he, a defensive specialist wing who can't make open threes. Not even worth a Jalen Green imho.

yeah if you completely ignore the fact he's also a great rim protector, very good rebounder and shot 38% from 3 this season. but other than that you are correct.

Bro took 100 threes the whole year. His percentage "this season" doesn't mean anything. Three-point shooting talent takes 700+ attempts to stabilize.

So what data are you using when you say "he cant make open threes"? It seems you've already made up your mind that he cant shoot, so it must be based on something you saw, no?

If you want to say you want to see a bigger sample size before you call him a good 3pt shooter, thats fine, but saying "he cant make open threes" when thats exactly what he did this season is just wrong. I am not saying he's Dirk Nowtizki but lets not pretend his MKG either.

[AaronB]

I can convince myself Jalen Green might become a decent scorer but I don't think there's a chance Isaac will average 65 games a season and most of the playoff games in the next 5 years. And even if he's healthy what is he, a defensive specialist wing who can't make open threes. Not even worth a Jalen Green imho.

yeah if you completely ignore the fact he's also a great rim protector, very good rebounder and shot 38% from 3 this season. but other than that you are correct.

Bro took 100 threes the whole year. His percentage "this season" doesn't mean anything. Three-point shooting talent takes 700+ attempts to stabilize.

But that is not what you said. You said "he can't make 3's"

So the 1 thing that we know is true is that you are wrong.

It is just as possible at this point that he is a better than a 38% 3 point shooter.

We will know more over time.

[AaronB]

yeah if you completely ignore the fact he's also a great rim protector, very good rebounder and shot 38% from 3 this season. but other than that you are correct.

Bro took 100 threes the whole year. His percentage "this season" doesn't mean anything. Three-point shooting talent takes 700+ attempts to stabilize.

So what data are you using when you say "he cant make open threes"? It seems you've already made up your mind that he cant shoot, so it must be based on something you saw, no?

If you want to say you want to see a bigger sample size before you call him a good 3pt shooter, thats fine, but saying "he cant make open threes" when thats exactly what he did this season is just wrong. I am not saying he's Dirk Nowtizki but lets not pretend his MKG either.

Be careful about facts and logic; sometimes, it makes other posters' heads explode.