Hou - NYK (Knicks get zero salary 2010)
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Hou - NYK (Knicks get zero salary 2010)
Looks like NYK have 2 bad contracts - which happen to be the only two they are locked into next year.
Curry: 10.5, 11.2
Jeffries:6.5, 6.9
Tmac has the wonderful expiring contract: 23.2
Houston also has some expendable low throw in expiring contracts if needed: 3.5, 2, .8
Making 2 assumptions here - that Yao is done and Hou is stuck with his 17.7 salary in 2011. As of now, Hou has no salary past 2011 (both Curry and Jeffries would also expire in 2011).
If NY can get that low, they could suck up two max players and good bit players (maybe 3 max players?).
So, the question is what can NYK give up that makes it worthwhile to Houston to suck up their salary (and possibly cost them a shot at Bosh).
Start with rookie Jordan HIll
Add a #1 draft choice: negoatiate level of protection.
D. Gallinari 3.0, then tm options
C. Wilson 1.2, then tm options
Effect:
NYK gets a clear salary cap ath the cost of the few young talented players it has.
Hou loses a shot at the free agent class of 2010.
Hou gets:
the option of clearing its cap in 2011.
three players with potential in Hill, Gallinari and Wilson.
Houston could later trade any of the players recieved along with Battier, etc. Might make it worthwhile.
Thoughts?
Curry: 10.5, 11.2
Jeffries:6.5, 6.9
Tmac has the wonderful expiring contract: 23.2
Houston also has some expendable low throw in expiring contracts if needed: 3.5, 2, .8
Making 2 assumptions here - that Yao is done and Hou is stuck with his 17.7 salary in 2011. As of now, Hou has no salary past 2011 (both Curry and Jeffries would also expire in 2011).
If NY can get that low, they could suck up two max players and good bit players (maybe 3 max players?).
So, the question is what can NYK give up that makes it worthwhile to Houston to suck up their salary (and possibly cost them a shot at Bosh).
Start with rookie Jordan HIll
Add a #1 draft choice: negoatiate level of protection.
D. Gallinari 3.0, then tm options
C. Wilson 1.2, then tm options
Effect:
NYK gets a clear salary cap ath the cost of the few young talented players it has.
Hou loses a shot at the free agent class of 2010.
Hou gets:
the option of clearing its cap in 2011.
three players with potential in Hill, Gallinari and Wilson.
Houston could later trade any of the players recieved along with Battier, etc. Might make it worthwhile.
Thoughts?
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The Rockets are looking at the ability to sign a Max FA in 2010 as well. This would annihilate those chances, for Curry and Jeffries.
NO!
NO!
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Absolutely not. Not a chance in hell. No way, no how. Not going to happen.
In summary: NO.
In summary: NO.
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That is why I mentioned it could cost Hou Bosh.
But, add Bosh in to replace Tmac and Yao, result is Hou still is short on talent.
Current Roster: Yao and Tmac on IR
Brooks, Lowry
B. Barry, Wafer (gone FA?), rookie Ch. Budinger, rookie Jermaine Taylor
Battier. Ariza, Cook, White
Scola, Hayes, Landry
Dorsey
Sub in Bosh at year end - who would have to play center and would suck up all FA cash:
Brooks, Lowry
B. Barry, Wafer (gone FA?), rookie Ch. Budinger, rookie Jermaine Taylor
Battier. Ariza, Cook, White
Scola, Hayes, Landry
Bosh, Dorsey
Not sure if that is enough.
If we do the deal:
Current Roster: Yao on IR
Brooks, Lowry
B. Barry, Wafer (gone FA?), rookie Ch. Budinger, rookie Jermaine Taylor, Ch. Wilson
Battier. Ariza, Cook, White, Jeffries, Gallinger
Scola, Hayes, Landry, Rookie Hill
Curry, Dorsey
It would be sweet it Bosh took his one year option and was available the next year along with Roy, Aldridge, etc.
I just think the infusion of young talent would offset one max player one year (we get one in 2011 if we want him)
But, add Bosh in to replace Tmac and Yao, result is Hou still is short on talent.
Current Roster: Yao and Tmac on IR
Brooks, Lowry
B. Barry, Wafer (gone FA?), rookie Ch. Budinger, rookie Jermaine Taylor
Battier. Ariza, Cook, White
Scola, Hayes, Landry
Dorsey
Sub in Bosh at year end - who would have to play center and would suck up all FA cash:
Brooks, Lowry
B. Barry, Wafer (gone FA?), rookie Ch. Budinger, rookie Jermaine Taylor
Battier. Ariza, Cook, White
Scola, Hayes, Landry
Bosh, Dorsey
Not sure if that is enough.
If we do the deal:
Current Roster: Yao on IR
Brooks, Lowry
B. Barry, Wafer (gone FA?), rookie Ch. Budinger, rookie Jermaine Taylor, Ch. Wilson
Battier. Ariza, Cook, White, Jeffries, Gallinger
Scola, Hayes, Landry, Rookie Hill
Curry, Dorsey
It would be sweet it Bosh took his one year option and was available the next year along with Roy, Aldridge, etc.
I just think the infusion of young talent would offset one max player one year (we get one in 2011 if we want him)
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NO. Your argument is not a good one. If given the choice between signing Bosh or getting Curry/Jeffries for the same price, the Rox would choose Bosh 11 times out of 10.
For the last time, NO!
For the last time, NO!
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Utah says hell yes.
whatever team you just left NYK with means they can trade John Wall for some serious talent when they land the #1 pick.
whatever team you just left NYK with means they can trade John Wall for some serious talent when they land the #1 pick.
tsherkin wrote:You can run away if you like, but I'm not done with this nonsense, I'm going rip apart everything you've said so everyone else here knows that you're completely lacking in basic basketball knowledge...
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The Rockets do not want the Knicks' bad contracts, nor do they want their garbage propects.
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CellarDoor wrote:Utah says hell yes.
whatever team you just left NYK with means they can trade John Wall for some serious talent when they land the #1 pick.
So we help the Knicks AND the Jazz?!??!?
I was wrong about Morey - he's the devil!!!
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LOL at trading chandler, hill and gallinari just to clear up more cap
both these guys will be off our 2010 books, and all 3 of those guys will be knicks
book it
both these guys will be off our 2010 books, and all 3 of those guys will be knicks
book it
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Even if the Rockets added their 2010 unprotected first rounder, their 2011 unprotected first rounder, their 2012 unprotected first rounder, their 2013 unprotected first rounder and their 2014 unprotected firstrounder this would be a CLEAR NO from NY. There is no one on the Rockets worth giving up Chandler,Hill or Gallo---ABSOLUTELY NO ONE. With Artest gone and Yao done the Rockets can have fun in the lottery for the next 5years.No need to help them out.
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wow... talk about trading all of the knicks talent for more garbage just to have enough cap space to not sign anybody in 2010 due to nobody wanting to goto a gutted team...smh at this thread
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Knicks will be under the cap to the tune of $20 million or so in 2010, unless they dump Curry and Jared, then they get even more. There is no need to get rid of Gallo, Hill AND Chandler (3 pieces for the future) to totally gut space. And you also want the Knicks to throw in a first rounder?
Explain why NY does this. WHY?
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Explain why NY does this. WHY?
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Houston has nothing that's worth that package. Not even close.
BAF Pacers
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
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Wow this is a terrible trade for both teams. Congratulations. You failed.
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Was that actually a serious trade proposal? That makes absolutely no sense for either team.
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This is EPIC FAIL.
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Highlights of this thread:
Chandler Wilson being his real name?
Gallinger.... Uhmm... Gallinari...?
The OP clearly having never watched the Knicks last season. Then you'd know Wilson is just as good, if not better, than Ariza (I can say better because Chandler has an offensive game, while also being solid on D). Gallinari showing he has a brilliant shooting stroke, capable of defending to a decent standard (or at least putting the effort in).
Chandler Wilson being his real name?
Gallinger.... Uhmm... Gallinari...?
The OP clearly having never watched the Knicks last season. Then you'd know Wilson is just as good, if not better, than Ariza (I can say better because Chandler has an offensive game, while also being solid on D). Gallinari showing he has a brilliant shooting stroke, capable of defending to a decent standard (or at least putting the effort in).
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Hay Xman I have a thought for you,Take you PC & put it in the trash, were this trade should be.
Follow the science not some internet physician & get your shots.
Kerrsed wrote:Just thinking of this deal makes my ass hurt!
turk3d wrote: you're about to make me go old rem on you
GoNYK1288 wrote:You better clench your butt cheeks because the GB is about to have at you.
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While its obvious the OP has never watched the Knicks before and has no idea how much he is undervaluing the knicks prospects...It's amazing that other posters actually followed up his post by emphatically rejecting the trade.
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