Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs

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Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#1 » by pardon_my_interruption » Thu Aug 6, 2009 4:09 am

To Dallas

Jared Jeffries/2nd round pick

To NY

Matt Carroll/Shawne Williams

Knicks cut some 2010 payroll by waiving Williams.

With Josh Howard set to play some SG, Carroll has no place there and the Mavs get more depth and size (at 6'11") at the backup SF. They could potentially field one of the biggest lineups in the NBA. Create a lot of matchup problems. Plus they don't figure to be players in free agency in 2010 anyway so Jeffries contract poses them no problem.
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#2 » by bballer27 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 4:13 am

i dont think the kinicks do this as this saves them only 2 mill which wont do much, so might as well keep the shorter contract
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#3 » by JES12 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 4:18 am

We have no room for Carroll. But we have no room for Jeffries either.

If this trade goes though, I would not be dissapointed, but I tbis would be a deadline deal after we explore all othr options with our end of the bench fodder.
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#4 » by kane2021 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:14 am

Carrol has 4 years left. 4.3 in 2010
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#5 » by KosMavs » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:44 am

You can take out the 2nd round pick, and Dallas still insta-accepts this deal.
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#6 » by Ian Kognitow » Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:38 am

This seems alright. If the Knicks can't completely dump Jeffries for expiring contracts, they would at least trim a solid $2M or so off the cap for next summer. And the Knicks, particularly if they land a big FA signing, can return to being fairly non-chalant about contracts and salaries such that the additional years for Carroll wouldn't be a very great concern for them. For that matter, the D'Antoni system could allow Carroll to be semi-useful contributor.
For the Mavs, they get big overall savings just to trade benchwarmers.

Not a bad deal at all. Huzzah.
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#7 » by Ian Kognitow » Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:46 am

bballer27 wrote:i dont think the kinicks do this as this saves them only 2 mill which wont do much, so might as well keep the shorter contract


$2M/yr is quite significant. Consider just this year the tight salary shaving Portland and Toronto were undertaking to try to sign Turkoglu. Similarly: the situation with Lamar Odom. Or, for that matter, the hand-wringing and public discord that emerged from Portland over the Roy extension, for what ended up amounting to a difference of $7M over 5 years.
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#8 » by JES12 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:52 am

fwiw,, the 2010 savings is $2.6 mil, but ny adds $0.6 mil this year making the overall savings the next 2 years only $2 mil.
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#9 » by moocow007 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 1:32 pm

Problem here is that if you go with the 2 year plan (2010 and 2011 FA) this actually will hurt them if they plan to sign another big FA in 2011 when Curry's $12 million deal is off the books. So instead of looking at a possible combined $18 million off for the summer of 2011 they'd only be looking at $14 million which considering increases to whomever (if any) player they sign to a max in 2010, increase salaries across the board, etc. may knock them out of contention for a second max FA.
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Re: Dallas/New York - Jeffries to the Mavs 

Post#10 » by Ian Kognitow » Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:03 am

moocow007 wrote:Problem here is that if you go with the 2 year plan (2010 and 2011 FA) this actually will hurt them if they plan to sign another big FA in 2011 when Curry's $12 million deal is off the books. So instead of looking at a possible combined $18 million off for the summer of 2011 they'd only be looking at $14 million which considering increases to whomever (if any) player they sign to a max in 2010, increase salaries across the board, etc. may knock them out of contention for a second max FA.


After all the waiting and obvious sacrifices of possible talent the Knicks have made in angling for 2010 free agency, even if they don't get James or Wade, I would imagine that they still end up committing to spend at least $40M/yr on new free agents next summer. In addition to the costs for Gallinari, Hill, and Lee/Robinson (or their replacements by trade), it wouldn't look like the Knicks would have any cap space to sign any free agents outright in 2011, even with Curry departing.

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