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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#121 » by Wiltside » Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:06 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Don’t really care for draft discussion until like the couple days leading up to the draft but my guess is one or both of Herro and Duncan are gone this summer (hopefully for a star) and we will target Dalton Knecht in the draft as a cheap long term replacement. Idk if he’s been mentioned or not


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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#122 » by twix2500 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:46 am

PJ Hall 6'10, 240 lbs
18.8 pts, 6.7 rbs, 1.6 blk

Strong stretch 5. Plays big, high IQ, knows how to position himself, move off ball, set screen, runs and has sneaky explosion. Very physical, polished and has a nice touch, pretty stroke. Shot 40% from 3 last year 32 this year but has taken on the go too scorer role.

Can play next to Bam and help him in the paint and be an enforcer. Very similar to Bobby Portis






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Post#123 » by twix2500 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:35 am

Isaiah Collier 6'5, 210 lbs scoring guard
16.3 pts, 4.3 ast, 34% 3pt, 6 fta, 1.5 stl

Elite high level speed and body control. Attacks the rim with fiery. Will get to the free throw line. Has NBA all-star ability. Needs to work on his deep 3.



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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#124 » by twix2500 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:01 am

Devin Carter 6'3, 195 lvs scoring guard
19.7 pts, 8.7 rbs, 3.6 ast, 41 3p%, 1.8 stls

High level shooter, deep three game (42 3p%). High level defender. Very physical and great rebounder for any height (8.7) rebs.


PROVIDENCE, R.I. - It was announced today (March 13) that Providence College junior guard Devin Carter (Miami, Fla.) was one of 10 players named as a Semifinalist for the Naismith Defensive Player Award. Carter ranks second in the BIG EAST in defensive rebounds (7.6 per game), fourth in steals (1.7 per game) and 12th in blocked shots (1.0 per game). The Naismith Defensive Player Of The Year is presented annually to the most outstanding men's and women's defensive basketball player who achieves tremendous on-court success.




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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#125 » by Pokuokic » Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:50 am

twix2500 wrote:Isaiah Collier 6'5, 210 lbs scoring guard
16.3 pts, 4.3 ast, 34% 3pt, 6 fta, 1.5 stl

Elite high level speed and body control. Attacks the rim with fiery. Will get to the free throw line. Has NBA all-star ability. Needs to work on his deep 3.




If the Heat can get Collier or Topic (might fall due to injury) they are set at the PG position for a long time
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Post#126 » by greg4012 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:53 pm

twix2500 wrote:Devin Carter 6'3, 195 lvs scoring guard
19.7 pts, 8.7 rbs, 3.6 ast, 41 3p%, 1.8 stls

High level shooter, deep three game (42 3p%). High level defender. Very physican and great rebounder for any height (8.7) rebs.


PROVIDENCE, R.I. - It was announced today (March 13) that Providence College junior guard Devin Carter (Miami, Fla.) was one of 10 players named as a Semifinalist for the Naismith Defensive Player Award. Carter ranks second in the BIG EAST in defensive rebounds (7.6 per game), fourth in steals (1.7 per game) and 12th in blocked shots (1.0 per game). The Naismith Defensive Player Of The Year is presented annually to the most outstanding men's and women's defensive basketball player who achieves tremendous on-court success.






Anthony Carter's son!

Digging his blend of skills. Love watching him play defense
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Post#127 » by MartyConlonJr » Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:09 pm

Just came here after looking around our draft position in current mocks and seeing this guy Devin Carter, checking his numbers, watching his highlights and scouting report and learning he was Anthony Carters son. And you guys beat me to it, but he seems a fairly perfect fit. And he would have probably been around the organisation as Anthony Carter was assistance coach till last year.
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Post#128 » by twix2500 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:14 pm

PJ Hall vs North Carolina big men.




PJ Hall pick and pop spot up three

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PJ Hall defending the perimeter

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Post#129 » by DayofMourning » Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:07 pm

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Post#130 » by MartyConlonJr » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:02 pm

Does Tyler Kolek of Marquette give anyone Gogi vibes? Not sure if it isn't just the 6'3 white guyness, but his shot and floaters seem similar. Only from me seeing Marquette in the round of 32 and checking who they have and seeing this guy averages 7.8 assists in college (that is a lot) and watching his highlights for one game. Has a little driving prowess and eurostep (not near Gogi level though). Do you think he could translate to NBA. He does have size.
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Post#131 » by DayofMourning » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:13 am

MartyConlonJr wrote:Does Tyler Kolek of Marquette give anyone Gogi vibes? Not sure if it isn't just the 6'3 white guyness, but his shot and floaters seem similar. Only from me seeing Marquette in the round of 32 and checking who they have and seeing this guy averages 7.8 assists in college (that is a lot) and watching his highlights for one game. Has a little driving prowess and eurostep (not near Gogi level though). Do you think he could translate to NBA. He does have size.


Hes a skilled offensive player for sure. Havent had any chance to follow his defensive IQ though.
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Post#132 » by greg4012 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:49 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:Does Tyler Kolek of Marquette give anyone Gogi vibes? Not sure if it isn't just the 6'3 white guyness, but his shot and floaters seem similar. Only from me seeing Marquette in the round of 32 and checking who they have and seeing this guy averages 7.8 assists in college (that is a lot) and watching his highlights for one game. Has a little driving prowess and eurostep (not near Gogi level though). Do you think he could translate to NBA. He does have size.


I know nothing about him, but I do know one of Goran's greatest strengths was his ability to get in the paint and finish around the rim. Quick stat check shows that Kolek seems very good at getting in the paint and finding looks (48% of his FGA are at the rim, which is impressive for a guard), and he's OK at finishing at the rim (58% fg at the rim). Ideally want to see his finishing % higher--Goran was a 65% finisher at the rim for his career.

I'm intrigued and will check him out.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#133 » by twix2500 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:17 am

Tristan De Silva, 6'9, 220, 3-D Forward
16.0 pts, 39.5 3p% (for the past 2 yrs), 5.1 rbs, 2.4 ast, 1,1 stls



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Post#134 » by greg4012 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:51 pm

DaRon Holmes is an interesting prospect that I'll monitor and aim to learn more about. I recall liking him as a name discussed around here last year before he opted to return to Dayton for his junior season.

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2021-22   Dayton A-10    FR  35  35 30.7 5.2  8.1 .649 5.2  7.9 .662 0.0 0.2 .143 2.3 4.0 .586 1.5 4.5 6.1 1.3 0.4 2.3 1.3 1.6  12.8 2.41
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2023-24   Dayton A-10    JR  33  33 32.5 6.6 12.1 .544 5.6  9.6 .585 1.0 2.5 .386 6.2 8.8 .713 1.7 6.8 8.5 2.6 0.9 2.1 2.2 2.0  20.4 5.79
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6'10 (6'9 barefoot) with a 7'1 wingspan. He displayed improved 3 point shooting this season 38.6% on 2.5 3PA per game. Named A10 Player of the Year and DPOY this season.



The big questions for me are if his 3 ball is real and if he has the defensive mobility to remain a positive defender in the NBA.
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Post#135 » by greg4012 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:11 pm

The advanced numbers further bolster the notion of Holmes’s growth as a shooter. His overall numbers on jump shots weren’t pretty either in Year One (17th percentile on jump shots, per Synergy) or Year Two (19th percentile), but there were some fascinating signals within that noise. Holmes ranked in the 26th percentile overall on catch-and-shoot attempts last year. However, he was already decent when unguarded (54th percentile), but the results were really poor when his shot was bothered (just the eighth percentile on guarded attempts).

That pattern has held up this year but with clear signs of improvement. Holmes ranks in the 89th percentile as a jump shooter and the 85th percentile on catch-and-shoot looks. He’s been slightly below-average when guarded (36th percentile), but lights-out when given space beyond the arc, ranking in the 93rd percentile on unguarded looks.


https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/2024-nba-draft-editors-notes-volume

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Post#136 » by twix2500 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:29 pm

twix2500 wrote:Tristan De Silva, 6'9, 220, 3-D Forward
16.0 pts, 39.5 3p% (for the past 2 yrs), 5.1 rbs, 2.4 ast, 1,1 stls



Tristan De Silva perimeter defense


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Post#137 » by DayofMourning » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:13 am

twix2500 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Tristan De Silva, 6'9, 220, 3-D Forward
16.0 pts, 39.5 3p% (for the past 2 yrs), 5.1 rbs, 2.4 ast, 1,1 stls



Tristan De Silva perimeter defense




I would not be surprised if you nailed this pick, twix.
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Post#138 » by twix2500 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:47 am

DayofMourning wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Tristan De Silva, 6'9, 220, 3-D Forward
16.0 pts, 39.5 3p% (for the past 2 yrs), 5.1 rbs, 2.4 ast, 1,1 stls



Tristan De Silva perimeter defense




I would not be surprised if you nailed this pick, twix.


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Post#139 » by greg4012 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:04 pm

twix2500 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Tristan De Silva, 6'9, 220, 3-D Forward
16.0 pts, 39.5 3p% (for the past 2 yrs), 5.1 rbs, 2.4 ast, 1,1 stls



Tristan De Silva perimeter defense




Seems like a real deal 3&D prospect. He ain't gonna create offense or become a star. But, maybe he can become a star role player.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/tristan-da-silva-thrives-doing-the

One of the biggest selling points of da Silva is his defensive impact. He’s incredibly reliable on the weak side, can switch nearly everything, and has fantastic fundamentals. Over the last three seasons, Colorado’s defensive rating has never ranked lower than 50th in the country (out of 362) when da Silva was on the court with this season being the worst at 98.8 (the previous two seasons were 95.2 (38th) and 94 (35th)). However, the disparity between when da Silva has been on the court compared to off the court has never been great. When da Silva is off the court, Colorado’s defensive rating jumps from 98.8 (50th) to 103.2 (122nd). Additionally, their net rating with him on the court of 26.4 plummets to -1.6 when he sits.

Da Silva’s defensive impact rarely shows up with his individual box score numbers, but it is more than present with the team’s numbers. As we can see below, da Silva is more than capable of playing sublime defense that doesn’t always generate steals or blocks. His near-perfect footwork allows him to stay attached to ball handlers to either force reckless shots or kill drives entirely. As a weak side defender, da Silva’s gap help is perfectly measured with annoying the ball handler while not overhelping to leave a shooter open, his rotations are timely and consistent, and his verticality creates turnovers and wild misses.


In the NBA, da Silva’s most likely role will be as a spot-up shooter and cutter. This season, da Silva ranks in the 94th percentile in spot-up scoring with 1.237 points per possession (PPP). He also ranks in the 82nd percentile shooting off the catch with 1.19 PPP while shooting 40.3% from three (48.1% when unguarded). Da Silva’s spot-up effectiveness isn’t a one-year fluke either, as last season, he scored 1.11 PPP spotting up (84th percentile) and 1.21 PPP shooting off the catch (85th percentile) while shooting 39.6% from three. Da Silva is rarely going to force shots, and his effectiveness, consistency, and comfort in finding open pockets on the perimeter make him a great outlet for primary creators who attract significant defensive attention.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#140 » by Wiltside » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:05 pm

Jared McCain out of Duke could be an interesting one for us. 6'3", 197lbs so a strong guard. He's a combo that plays a bit off ball, bit on ball, and is a legit shooter with some burst. Seems to be a pesky point of attack defender too.

2024 averages of 14/5/2 with a steal per game. 2.4 / 5.8 from 3, so shot a 41% clip on decent volume.
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