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2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#1 » by dwadefan92_3 » Wed May 19, 2010 11:11 pm

Pat Riley knows he is in the driver’s seat for what has the potential to be the most wild NBA offseason ever. He will have more cap room than any other team in the league with only Michael Beasley ($4.9 Million) and Daquan Cook ($2.2 Million) under contract while there are team options for Mario Chalmers ($847,000) and James Jones ($4.6 million).

He also has one of the league’s top 5 players in Dwyane Wade who will return if Miami acquires the type of talent around him that will propel the team into contender status.

Miami also has other assets such as a mid first-round draft pick(18th overall) and three second-round picks.

Riley and Wade have to be ecstatic that Lebron James looks like he is going to hit the market as well, taking the focus off of Wade as the number one free agent available.

There has been talk that Wade and Lebron could unite, but this seems far fetched. Two alpha dog wing players that need the ball in their hands doesn’t sound ideal.

Miami also has the allure of great weather and South Beach. In summary Riley has immense cap room, a franchise player, four draft picks and an extremely desirable place to live in his deck of cards.

New York has the cap room to compete with Miami but doesn’t have the franchise player. Chicago has enough money to sign one marquee guy and the way everyone has been touting them lately, the talent to win a title if a Lebron were to join them.

This couldn’t be more false . Since when do Joakim Noah, Luol Deng, and Derrick Rose make up a championship caliber group or even an elite supporting cast. Rose is the only one of the group that deserves any sort of praise. Deng is an injury waiting to happen and Noah is a scrappy big, but will never be a star.

It’s been proven in this league you need either two elite stars (Think Kobe-Shaq or Jordan-Pippen) or three or four studs (Think Pierce-Garnett-Allen, Kobe-Gasol-Odom-Bynum, Duncan-Parker-Ginobli, Billups-Hamilton-Prince-Rasheed) to win it all.

Riley can take a number of different paths to the top of the mountain. Let’s take a look at the Miami Heat Dream Team for next year. There are a couple of rules. The scenario must be plausible and must fit within the salary cap guidelines.

1. Sign Dwyane Wade to a max contract ($16.5 million). He has made it public his desire is in Miami.

2. Sign Amare Stoudamire to a max contract (16.5 million). Let’s hope the Suns get swept by L.A.

3. Sign Joe Johnson to a 5-year $65 million deal ($13 million). He would sacrifice a few million dollars for multiple rings. Is it a sacrifice he would be willing to make?

4. Trade Beasley, Chalmers, Jones, Cook, and two first round picks (2010, 2011) to the Hornets for Emeka Okafor ($11.2 million) and Darren Collison ($1.2 million). Miami would be getting a solid, defensive minded big man in the middle and a future star at the point. New Orleans would be getting a potential star in Beasley, a young cheap backup point, and draft picks. They would then free up cap space by buying out Jones.

5. Sign Ray Allen (Unrestricted free agent) using the mid level exception.

6. Using bird rights Miami can re-sign their own guys like Udonis Haslem, Dorell Wright, and Joel Anthony.

7. With a championship caliber team in place it wouldn’t take much to lure a veteran point guard and swing man like Carlos Arroyo and Raja Bell respectively. Then the three second round picks would fill out the roster.

Your 2010 Miami heat would look like this:

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PG – Collison – 1.2 million

SG – Wade - 16.5 million

SF – Johnson – 13 million

PF – Stoudemire – 16.5 million

C – Okafor – 11.2 million

Bench – Haslem (6-8 million), Allen (mid level exception – 5-6 million), Wright (3 million), Bell (Veteran minimum), Arroyo (Veteran minimum), Anthony (1.5 million), three second rounders.

A few assumptions have been made in tinkering this lineup. First, Stoudamire would have to leave Phoenix. The odds are slim if they make it to the finals. Second, the Hornets would have to agree to this trade, and it does make sense for both sides because Collison and Paul play the same position.

This squad has multiple playmakers, something Miami has lacked for a long time. They have the veteran leadership that has been through the playoff grind for years. They have the potential to be an elite offensive and defensive team with a young hungry coach in Erik Spoelstra at the helm.

There are a lot of various ways they can go this summer. There is an opportunity to bring more championships to Miami, cementing this franchise as one to be reckoned with for years to come.Let’s hope Pat makes some wise moves.
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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#2 » by insfo » Wed May 19, 2010 11:14 pm

No Dirk ??
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Post#3 » by dwadefan92_3 » Wed May 19, 2010 11:19 pm

if you want dirk for amar'e but i think that amar'e is a better well all around player than dirk is
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Post#4 » by I Never Lied » Wed May 19, 2010 11:31 pm

Why do so many people here like Amare over Bosh? I just dont get it.
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Post#5 » by HeatSince88 » Thu May 20, 2010 12:20 am

1. Sign Dwyane Wade to a max contract ($16.5 million). He has made it public his desire is in Miami.

2. Sign Amare Stoudamire to a max contract (16.5 million). Let’s hope the Suns get swept by L.A.

3. Sign Joe Johnson to a 5-year $65 million deal ($13 million). He would sacrifice a few million dollars for multiple rings. Is it a sacrifice he would be willing to make?


No can do. You only have about $7M in cap space at this point, not $13M. And that's if you drop J. Jones by June 30th...

4. Trade Beasley, Chalmers, Jones, Cook, and two first round picks (2010, 2011) to the Hornets for Emeka Okafor ($11.2 million) and Darren Collison ($1.2 million). Miami would be getting a solid, defensive minded big man in the middle and a future star at the point. New Orleans would be getting a potential star in Beasley, a young cheap backup point, and draft picks. They would then free up cap space by buying out Jones.


No can do. To get the $7M in cap space, you would've had to cut Jones by June 30th. Did you decide to keep him, only giving you $4.5M in cap room for Joe Johnson?

Besides, nobody's explained to me why the Hornet svalue a backup to David West so highly to give up their starting C and electric/valuable young PG for him. Lots of teams can give expirings for those guys ... you'd think they'd expect a C in the deal, wouldn't you?

5. Sign Ray Allen (Unrestricted free agent) using the mid level exception.


We won't have an MLE under this scenario.

6. Using bird rights Miami can re-sign their own guys like Udonis Haslem, Dorell Wright, and Joel Anthony.


Not possible. You had to renounce Udonis and Wright to have room to sign Stoundamire to $16M and Joe Johnson to $4.5M to $7M.

So out the 9 new players coming our way in your fantasy, only 3 of them could actually happen (Wade, Stoudemire, Joel) with the rest either against cap rules or unrealistic (Joe Johnson at $4.5m to $7M).
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Post#6 » by RJM » Thu May 20, 2010 12:21 am

I Never Lied wrote:Why do so many people here like Amare over Bosh? I just dont get it.
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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#7 » by fishfuego. » Thu May 20, 2010 12:39 am

""""5. Sign Ray Allen (Unrestricted free agent) using the mid level exception.""""


Mid level exception? Can a team still get this while under the cap?
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Post#8 » by MartyConlonJr » Thu May 20, 2010 12:51 am

If it wasn't for the rules that govern the NBA, that would be a fine scenario.

Edit: I should specify...

Wade + Amare + Johnson is 46 mill.
Beasley and James Jones are combined almost 10 mill.

So before we make the proposed trade, you are already at the cap limit, haven't included Daequan (Another 2 mill) and Chalmers (another 847k), or the cap hold for the pick (1.8) or the cap holds for the remaining spots (470k x 4).

You then resign our FA's which we would have had to rescind rights to.

You then use the MLE we don't have.
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Post#9 » by dwadefan92_3 » Thu May 20, 2010 1:09 am

guys guys trust me this scenario can happen any time
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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#10 » by FlashTheKilla » Thu May 20, 2010 1:15 am

Joke account?
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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#11 » by KDS91 » Thu May 20, 2010 3:29 am

I Never Lied wrote:Why do so many people here like Amare over Bosh? I just dont get it.
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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#12 » by FlashTheKilla » Thu May 20, 2010 3:31 am

agentk16 wrote:
I Never Lied wrote:Why do so many people here like Amare over Bosh? I just dont get it.


It's a what have you done for me lately kinda world.

I'll take either one with about the same level of preference.
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Post#13 » by MartyConlonJr » Thu May 20, 2010 3:39 am

Seems like much of a muchness, but Bosh hasn't really had a playoff performance of note while Amare has beasted against the greatest PF of all time many times.

Also a little more height and size.

And maybe pick and roll with Wade has that lethal potential.

On Bosh's side are rebounding and age.
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Post#14 » by LEIF » Thu May 20, 2010 3:45 am

I wll apologize in advance for the harsh words but learn how the damn salary cap works before you come and post a completely unrealistic, IMPOSSIBLE scenario when you take into account the fact we dont have our Mid Level exception and if we dont trade Beasley/Cook etc we wouldnt have enough cap space to offer Amare a max deal AND Joe Johnson that kind of money.

plus....this belongs in the 2010 thread.

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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#15 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Thu May 20, 2010 4:13 am

MartyConlonJr wrote:
Also a little more height and size.

Bosh is 2-3 inches taller.

Also Amare has 20.7 and 6.6 in this year's playoffs, and has 9 rebounds combined in 2 games against LA.
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Post#16 » by ifrosty13 » Thu May 20, 2010 6:31 am

LOL... This guy won't give up.

LEARN SOME CAP RULES!!
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Post#17 » by Iputsomepantson » Thu May 20, 2010 8:07 am

You don't get Bird rights if you sign players using your cap space.
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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#18 » by Teddy Bruckshut » Thu May 20, 2010 1:51 pm

dwadefan92_3 wrote:guys guys trust me this scenario can happen any time


You are clearly 110% clueless when it comes to the salary cap.
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Re: 2010-2011 Possible roster 

Post#19 » by JMAC3 » Sun May 23, 2010 9:23 pm

Honestly, Lebron James is going to be a tough target and see him going to the knicks or nets if he leaves. Which is fine because I don't think two top wing players can both play effectively together. They are better off spending that money on a post player. The main choices are Bosh, Stoudemire, and Boozer. Bosh will most likely go where Lebron goes unless he resigns with the cavs. If that happens a sign and trade is most likely gonna happen. I think Stoudemire is the best fit because of his pick and roll skills and compatibility with Wade. Boozer is not a bad fall off option. After that it drops off to David Lee and Luis Scola and a few others.

For people who think its possible to get wade, james, and bosh or some version of that are stupid. The heat would be better off trying to sign Stoudemire and a above average wing player to go along with wade. Either Rudy Gay, Michael Redd (if he will take less money) good shooter to pair with Wade. I would try and trade for a young point guard. I would offer Hornets Beasley,Cook and Jones for Darren Collison and Songalia (cheap Haslem). Sign either Raja Bell or Will Bynum(each around 4-5 mil). Resign O'neal for around 7 million or so. Draft a center in first round. Adds better post play and three point shooting around Wade.

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PG- Collison/Chalmers
SG- Wade/Bell or Bynum
SF- Gay/Wright
PF-Staudemire/Songalia
C-O'neal/ Joel

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