Sigh, are you guys little kids? I am too old to be acting like people got "ethered"... I am a grown man, so if you want to interact with me, act like you got some sense or I will ignore you.
FACTS : I wanted Camby over Ray Allen FROM DAY ONE. I will post evidence of this. I wanted Camby + Hill, not Lewis + Allen.
FACTS : The -only- reason I celebrated getting Allen, was because, -at the time-, Riley lost out on Camby. Marcus Camby cancelled his meeting with Miami when he saw that Riley wanted to give the LLE to Ray Allen. Camby was not going to take the vet min for us, he wanted the LLE. He cancelled the meeting with the Heat he had scheduled. Then, Ray Allen was ALL WE HAD LEFT.
FACTS : Ray Allen then made all of Heat nation nervous that we were going to end up with NOTHING, no camby, no allen, nobody. So I was very happy that we got SOMETHING. I even answered this very question back then someone asked me "Why are you celebrating ray allen if you wanted camby"
So, considering those -facts-, I had no choice but to hope and pray that the Heat get the free agent we are going after, which was a legendary 3 point shooter. A great addition to have, but IMO not the biggest need.
Then it comes out that Ray Allen turned down twice the contract in BOSTON to accept ours instead. Meanwhile, Camby was trippin' and already was a Knick due to all this.
And you expect me NOT to be happy? Somehow that makes me, what? Revisionist history? I wanted Camby. Riley wanted Allen. Camby goes to Knicks. Allen leaves us hanging, leaves MIA without a committment, we look like we are gonna lose out on everyone, bam, we get Allen to turn down double the money BOS offered him....to play for us.
And you expected me to do what? "Damn brah, oh well nice job riles i guess." ?????????? I'm a Heat fan since you were in diapers, of course, IN THAT SITUATION, my reaction was a legit Heat fan's reaction. Riley got someone to turn down big money to play for us, AGAIN. That is big.1) I wanted Marcus Camby from DAY ONE. I wanted Riley to ignore Ray Allen and go for Marcus Camby.
StrengthNHonor wrote:Told you guys.
Eat your "we dont need a center" crow now, I hope you choke on it.
Marcus Camby + Grant Hill looks a hell of a lot better now than Ray Allen + Rashard Lewis, don't it?
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1186517&start=1035#p324808632) Allen wasted A LOT of our free agency time making his decision, and I was worried we would end up with nothing. He left Miami "without a committment"... remember that? I was pissed that our (Riley's, not mine) #1 target in Free agency was going to shaft us AND we lost out of Camby.
StrengthNHonor wrote:by StrengthNHonor on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:27 pm
We don't need to get Ray Allen to do that. Just rest Wade more minutes and look for one of the many free agent wing players. A guy to play SG and sit on the 3pt line is easy to find. Why does it have to be Ray Allen?
I don't know what to say to a guy like you who wants to go small ball forever. If this team had a legitimate Center to play defense and rebound, and even a little scoring liek Camby can do, we are UNSTOPPABLE. It's our biggest weakness. We already have guys like Ray Allen on the roster. Battier and Jones.... and there are FA forwards/guards out there.
StrengthNHonor wrote:Unread postby StrengthNHonor on Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:40 pm
Allen has to decide today or we move on. Honestly, how long are we going to let this guy ruin our free agency? This thing started last weekend, and on Monday he was like "I'll visit Miami on thursday!"
he wasted enough of our time. DECIDE TODAY
StrengthNHonor wrote:by StrengthNHonor on Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:56 pm
why are we letting this Celtic scrub ruin our championship off-season feeling? F ray.
I am one of them that never wanted or trusted him in the 1st place.
UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS - Guards/Forwards
Carlos Delfino (36% career 3pt shooter)
Leandro Barbosa (39% career 3pt shooter)
StrengthNHonor wrote:by StrengthNHonor on Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:42 pm
I'm happy, but still I want to mention again that we could have had
Marcus Camby + Grant Hill + Rashard Lewis instead of just Allen + Lewis
I repeated several times that swingmen are in abundance and cheap to sign... but there's only 1 Center in our reach and he wanted to come here for the Mini-MLE we gave to Ray Allen....
SOOOOOOOO...... as you can see. I wanted Camby + Hill. I only celebrated Ray Allen after I thought our free agency was being ruined, that Allen was going to shaft us, and we already lost out on Camby. Then it comes out Allen turned down big money to play for us. In that situation, it is PERFECTLY understandable to be happy for Ray Allen joining my team. Riles got a rival player on a team that hates us to take half the money to play for us. Sure he wasn't my #1 choice, but it's ALL WE HAD LEFT at that point in free agency, and that is a HUGE accomplishment for Riley. Of course I am going to be happy, it's my damn team after all.
Me celebrating that does NOT change the fact that I said I wanted a big man and not Allen. That is NOT revisionist history. That is YOU taking me out of context to make up a fake "owned" scenario so you kiddies can laugh.
Now, life is not about "gotcha" or who is "ethered". Show some respect and have understanding towards other people. You immediately try to create a fake "owned" scenario by taking my quotes OUT OF CONTEXT and then you all laugh like if this was high school or something. It is something on this board that I see is lacking. A LOT of immaturity around here and it needs to stop.
Get back to talking about basketball and stop acting like little kids and hating each other.