StrengthNHonor wrote:GreenHat wrote:StrengthNHonor wrote:[quote="GreenHat"]I just want to say that I LOVE this recent trend of pulling up contradictory statements from posters.
People make these ridiculously bold claims on here and never get held accountable for them. People use revisionist history and hindsight to make themselves seem clairvoyant.
Of course I know I am opening up the door for this post to be quoted if this ever happens to me.
Nah buddy. I'm legit. That guy just quoted me out of context. and why is ANYONE spending time trying to twist words to make another Heat fan look bad?
This is childish as hell.
You might have wanted Camby more but you just said this:I said it then and I say it now, adding Ray Allen when we already had Mike Miller, Shane Battier, James Jones..... so stupid.
Your quotes clearly don't show that you thought it was "......so stupid" at the time. You can say you were excited we got anyone but you clearly didn't think it was so stupid at the time of your previous comments that he quoted.
So your "I said it then" part is off and he was right to call you out on it. I'm completely in favor of accountability because people have such extreme opinions and then flip flop based on the results. As an example I've been saying since year 1 that Miller's contract was horrible and he would never be worth it. Countless posters would taunt me the handful of games that Miller had big games. I stuck with the opinion and now everyone agrees the contract is an albatross but there is no accountability so those same posters will make extreme claims the next time too. Accountability can only improve discourse.
He didn't twist your words. You might have preferred Camby but you didn't think signing Allen was so stupid then. You were celebrating.
I clearly already explained why I celebrated. It doesn't mean that I don't think going for Allen over Camby was stupid. We could have signed any number of perimeter players.
You can have one without the other. It is really not hard to understand, this is not black and white.
I was vehemently against the Iraq war. I thought it was stupid from the get go. But I sure cheered when Bush declared Mission Accomplished and that all major combat ops were done. Why? BECAUSE I AM AN AMERICAN. I am also a Heat fan. There is no other option but victory (due to a war forced upon me), and there was no other option (at the time) than Ray Allen (due to Riley forcing him upon me). Still does not change the fact that I would have liked Riley to make Camby #1 priority instead. Being happy my country won the war and cheering does not magically make me "for" the war. Being happy that Riley did not strike out after gambling -everything- on Ray Allen, and got him to take half of what BOS was offering, does not magically make me "for" Ray Allen. I was for Camby.
This is not hard to understand. Now drop it, you and your buddies that laughed were wrong. I would have had to have wanted Ray Allen from the start, then only now saying I wanted Camby instead, THAT would make you correct.
But that is not what happened. So, please, man up and drop it. You were wrong.[/quote]
please stop posting. you re only making things worse. Btw you didn t WIN the war becuse their was no war in the first place...all about oil buddy