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Re: Heat @ Timberwolves - 10/28 @8pm - Jimmy resting after 2 games… 

Post#201 » by IceColdCubano » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:05 pm

carnageta wrote:3 games into the season and people already turning on Spo. If that isn't the epitome of Miami Heat basketball I don't know what is.

You gotta love it.

Posters are in Midseason form already.
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Post#202 » by fishfuego. » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:11 pm

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MHeat0279 wrote:
No coach can do that, not even Spo. The players can get you there if they play a working system, i have seen Spo's rotations destroy a winnable game multiple times, not a horrible coach but not a brilliant one either. And still a bunch of you get hanged up about our trips to the finals as if it was a given we would be there in the first place, this team was horrible during the season, and if not for a miracle of our scrubs hitting the 3 ball like snipers we would have been done way short of reaching the finals.

I agree here.
Jimmy went into God mode in a series, while Vincent and Caleb took turns shooting 3s in the following series. Hardly a coaching wizardry, but mediocre players playing above their pay rate. Just imagine if Jimmy doesn’t play in God mode or the “ scrubs” remain true to their form, how round one exit would’ve been the memorabilia.

Imo, Spo is a bit above mediocre, but the league’s lack of good/great coaches inflates his rep. His rotations my goodness :nonono:

When something keeps happening it is not an accident or a coincidence.

Spo consistently adds value to the roster. Very few coaches can do that. If Spo is just a bit above mediocre and only looks good because the rest of the NBA (the top basketball league in the world) is full of lesser coaches ... you may want to consider that it's your perception of what makes a coach great that is skewed.

If Spo isn't a great coach, then there are no great coaches.


Players from the “ best league in the World” just got embarrassed by players from lesser leagues from around the World, with Spo as one of the coaches. We need best players from other countries ( Embiid) to join us soon to reclaim the illusion we have the best players in the World. Let’s be truthful, the best players are not necessarily from the US.

There are some very good foreign coaches that would make the argument about what should be considered best or what not.

Spo rotations are what IMO keeps him above mediocre and nothing more. Sure he brings the most out mediocre players, but don’t think for a minute is not Riley’s system that keeps bad to mediocre players maximizing their efforts. Without Riley’s system in place, Spo loses that power to enforce that “process”.

Again, his rotations suck.
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Re: Heat @ Timberwolves - 10/28 @8pm - Jimmy resting after 2 games… 

Post#203 » by Bishop45 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:17 pm

Finna make the GT if nobody makes it in a few hrs!
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Re: Heat @ Timberwolves - 10/28 @8pm - Jimmy resting after 2 games… 

Post#204 » by twix2500 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:24 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Really pleased with Niko and JJJ yesterday. Spo killed the momentum of this game over doing it with the lineup of Duncan and Cain. He just can't help himself with his rotations. Would like to see Niko cemented into the starting lineup with Butler and Bam. Sure he made some mistakes defensively yesterday but the only way to learn is through trial and error and what he brings on the offensive side to this team is way more higher upside then anyone else. Also loved the way he was rebounding yesterday alleviating our size issue. Spo needs to stop dicking this kid around and let him grow with the starting unit.
We should know Spo regular season pattern he is gonna experiment with different lineups, rotation and plays until all-star break

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Re: Heat @ Timberwolves - 10/28 @8pm - Jimmy resting after 2 games… 

Post#205 » by oreon » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:20 pm

fishfuego. wrote:
contract wrote:
fishfuego. wrote:I agree here.
Jimmy went into God mode in a series, while Vincent and Caleb took turns shooting 3s in the following series. Hardly a coaching wizardry, but mediocre players playing above their pay rate. Just imagine if Jimmy doesn’t play in God mode or the “ scrubs” remain true to their form, how round one exit would’ve been the memorabilia.

Imo, Spo is a bit above mediocre, but the league’s lack of good/great coaches inflates his rep. His rotations my goodness :nonono:

When something keeps happening it is not an accident or a coincidence.

Spo consistently adds value to the roster. Very few coaches can do that. If Spo is just a bit above mediocre and only looks good because the rest of the NBA (the top basketball league in the world) is full of lesser coaches ... you may want to consider that it's your perception of what makes a coach great that is skewed.

If Spo isn't a great coach, then there are no great coaches.


Players from the “ best league in the World” just got embarrassed by players from lesser leagues from around the World, with Spo as one of the coaches. We need best players from other countries ( Embiid) to join us soon to reclaim the illusion we have the best players in the World. Let’s be truthful, the best players are not necessarily from the US.

There are some very good foreign coaches that would make the argument about what should be considered best or what not.

Spo rotations are what IMO keeps him above mediocre and nothing more. Sure he brings the most out mediocre players, but don’t think for a minute is not Riley’s system that keeps bad to mediocre players maximizing their efforts. Without Riley’s system in place, Spo loses that power to enforce that “process”.

Again, his rotations suck.


What is this Riley system ? Is Riley still coaching ? Thats news to me.
It's laughable to think Riley sitting in his GMing has anything to do with players getting better. This is down to Spo and his coaching staff. The GM has 0 to do with player improvement. This is down to how the coach wants to use a certain player, the player buy-in and the assistant coaches/trainers working with that player to improve the specific skill. Riley has no system
I don't get the lengths heat fans go to not give their own the credit despite the results
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Re: Heat @ Timberwolves - 10/28 @8pm - Jimmy resting after 2 games… 

Post#206 » by fishfuego. » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:09 pm

oreon wrote:
fishfuego. wrote:
contract wrote:When something keeps happening it is not an accident or a coincidence.

Spo consistently adds value to the roster. Very few coaches can do that. If Spo is just a bit above mediocre and only looks good because the rest of the NBA (the top basketball league in the world) is full of lesser coaches ... you may want to consider that it's your perception of what makes a coach great that is skewed.

If Spo isn't a great coach, then there are no great coaches.


Players from the “ best league in the World” just got embarrassed by players from lesser leagues from around the World, with Spo as one of the coaches. We need best players from other countries ( Embiid) to join us soon to reclaim the illusion we have the best players in the World. Let’s be truthful, the best players are not necessarily from the US.

There are some very good foreign coaches that would make the argument about what should be considered best or what not.

Spo rotations are what IMO keeps him above mediocre and nothing more. Sure he brings the most out mediocre players, but don’t think for a minute is not Riley’s system that keeps bad to mediocre players maximizing their efforts. Without Riley’s system in place, Spo loses that power to enforce that “process”.

Again, his rotations suck.


What is this Riley system ? Is Riley still coaching ? Thats news to me.
It's laughable to think Riley sitting in his GMing has anything to do with players getting better. This is down to Spo and his coaching staff. The GM has 0 to do with player improvement. This is down to how the coach wants to use a certain player, the player buy-in and the assistant coaches/trainers working with that player to improve the specific skill. Riley has no system
I don't get the lengths heat fans go to not give their own the credit despite the results


Spo is a Riley clone, it would be laughable to think otherwise.
Riley has had this tough love system in place for years, and without such system, coaches such as Spo would not be able to use the “ doghouse “ enforcement with players. That’s the difference with a GM like Riley, and other GMs around the league that cave to the players vs coaches.

Spo’s rotations are head scratching though.

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