Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 2.0

[contract]

[Bishop45]

Get well soon Herro!

[DBurks2818]

What should be the new starting/rotation at the SG spot for the next few weeks? Does Duncan start? Jaime? JRich even, to keep the bench production intact until Caleb gets back?

[Bishop45]

Jaquez or Jovic for sure!

[Hoops3355]

The last two pages of people calling Tyler injury prone. Have you clowns never played basketball. Hand injuries and ankle injuries are so common.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The last two pages of people calling Tyler injury prone. Have you clowns never played basketball. Hand injuries and ankle injuries are so common.

[VaDe255]

The last two pages of people calling Tyler injury prone. Have you clowns never played basketball. Hand injuries and ankle injuries are so common.

Not sure what you're laughing about. Herro injuring his ankle doesn't make him injury-prone; it's part of the game, and these things can happen randomly.

- His playing style, which doesn't heavily rely on physicality or aggression, actually reduces his risk for certain types of injuries
- He's known for his good work ethic and keeping his body in top condition
- Importantly, there's no history of chronic or recurring injuries with him, which is a key factor in considering someone as injury-prone

This narrative that he is injury-prone is just silly.

[contract]

Injury prone just means that you get injured a lot.

[eddieheatfan]

Injury prone just means that you get injured a lot.

looks like he could be out for a month if not more

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The last two pages of people calling Tyler injury prone. Have you clowns never played basketball. Hand injuries and ankle injuries are so common.

Not sure what you're laughing about. Herro injuring his ankle doesn't make him injury-prone; it's part of the game, and these things can happen randomly.

- His playing style, which doesn't heavily rely on physicality or aggression, actually reduces his risk for certain types of injuries
- He's known for his good work ethic and keeping his body in top condition
- Importantly, there's no history of chronic or recurring injuries with him, which is a key factor in considering someone as injury-prone

This narrative that he is injury-prone is just silly.

Dude is injured all the time, wtf are y’all even talking about

Idc how he got injured, idc if it’s strained left nut keeping him out or a sprained ankle regardless it is always something. Go look at the dudes career, he just finds a way regardless of what the injury.

Y’all can keep making excuses saying “they’re freak accidents” but the fact remains that he gets injured all the time and is therefore……………

Hopefully it’s a one off thing and he’s good all year but I highly doubt it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Injury prone just means that you get injured a lot.

The pushback has been baffling

[eddieheatfan]

The last two pages of people calling Tyler injury prone. Have you clowns never played basketball. Hand injuries and ankle injuries are so common.

Not sure what you're laughing about. Herro injuring his ankle doesn't make him injury-prone; it's part of the game, and these things can happen randomly.

- His playing style, which doesn't heavily rely on physicality or aggression, actually reduces his risk for certain types of injuries
- He's known for his good work ethic and keeping his body in top condition
- Importantly, there's no history of chronic or recurring injuries with him, which is a key factor in considering someone as injury-prone

This narrative that he is injury-prone is just silly.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/tyler-herro-player-injuries



DATE
INJURY
11/8/23
Ankle
4/16/23
Hand
4/7/23
Quad
2/26/23
Rib
2/23/23
Knee
2/12/23
Knee
1/9/23
Achilles
1/6/23
Back
12/16/22
Ankle
12/13/22
Ankle
12/11/22
Ankle
12/9/22
Ankle
12/7/22
Ankle
12/1/22
Ankle
11/29/22
Ankle
11/26/22
Ankle
11/24/22
Ankle
11/6/22
Ankle
11/1/22
Eye
2/14/22
Knee
2/6/22
Knee
1/19/22
Conditioning
12/14/21
Quad
11/27/21
Soreness
11/18/21
Wrist
11/9/21
Back
4/24/21
Foot
4/22/21
Foot
4/19/21
Foot
4/10/21
Foot
3/15/21
Shoulder
2/21/21
Hip
2/11/21
Health and Safety Protocols
2/2/21
Knee
1/31/21
Neck
1/29/21
Neck
1/15/21
Neck
9/7/20
Hip
9/5/20
Hip
2/3/20
Right Ankle
1/15/20
Knee
12/12/19
Illness
11/11/19
Ankle

[DayofMourning]

Injury prone just means that you get injured a lot.

looks like he could be out for a month if not more

Here's some more info on sprains and other type of lower body injuries in NBA players:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8077287/

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not sure what you're laughing about. Herro injuring his ankle doesn't make him injury-prone; it's part of the game, and these things can happen randomly.

- His playing style, which doesn't heavily rely on physicality or aggression, actually reduces his risk for certain types of injuries
- He's known for his good work ethic and keeping his body in top condition
- Importantly, there's no history of chronic or recurring injuries with him, which is a key factor in considering someone as injury-prone

This narrative that he is injury-prone is just silly.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/tyler-herro-player-injuries



DATE
INJURY
11/8/23
Ankle
4/16/23
Hand
4/7/23
Quad
2/26/23
Rib
2/23/23
Knee
2/12/23
Knee
1/9/23
Achilles
1/6/23
Back
12/16/22
Ankle
12/13/22
Ankle
12/11/22
Ankle
12/9/22
Ankle
12/7/22
Ankle
12/1/22
Ankle
11/29/22
Ankle
11/26/22
Ankle
11/24/22
Ankle
11/6/22
Ankle
11/1/22
Eye
2/14/22
Knee
2/6/22
Knee
1/19/22
Conditioning
12/14/21
Quad
11/27/21
Soreness
11/18/21
Wrist
11/9/21
Back
4/24/21
Foot
4/22/21
Foot
4/19/21
Foot
4/10/21
Foot
3/15/21
Shoulder
2/21/21
Hip
2/11/21
Health and Safety Protocols
2/2/21
Knee
1/31/21
Neck
1/29/21
Neck
1/15/21
Neck
9/7/20
Hip
9/5/20
Hip
2/3/20
Right Ankle
1/15/20
Knee
12/12/19
Illness
11/11/19
Ankle

Lower body injuries galore

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Games played in a Heat jersey prior to Herros most recent injury that will likely keep him out a month at least:

Jimmy: 302
Herro: 291

They’ve both had Covid, Jimmy takes off several games a season for rest.

Herro is injury prone. Hopefully he can break the cycle after this one. He’s having a really good start to the year.

[eddieheatfan]

Not sure what you're laughing about. Herro injuring his ankle doesn't make him injury-prone; it's part of the game, and these things can happen randomly.

- His playing style, which doesn't heavily rely on physicality or aggression, actually reduces his risk for certain types of injuries
- He's known for his good work ethic and keeping his body in top condition
- Importantly, there's no history of chronic or recurring injuries with him, which is a key factor in considering someone as injury-prone

This narrative that he is injury-prone is just silly.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/tyler-herro-player-injuries



DATE
INJURY
11/8/23
Ankle
4/16/23
Hand
4/7/23
Quad
2/26/23
Rib
2/23/23
Knee
2/12/23
Knee
1/9/23
Achilles
1/6/23
Back
12/16/22
Ankle
12/13/22
Ankle
12/11/22
Ankle
12/9/22
Ankle
12/7/22
Ankle
12/1/22
Ankle
11/29/22
Ankle
11/26/22
Ankle
11/24/22
Ankle
11/6/22
Ankle
11/1/22
Eye
2/14/22
Knee
2/6/22
Knee
1/19/22
Conditioning
12/14/21
Quad
11/27/21
Soreness
11/18/21
Wrist
11/9/21
Back
4/24/21
Foot
4/22/21
Foot
4/19/21
Foot
4/10/21
Foot
3/15/21
Shoulder
2/21/21
Hip
2/11/21
Health and Safety Protocols
2/2/21
Knee
1/31/21
Neck
1/29/21
Neck
1/15/21
Neck
9/7/20
Hip
9/5/20
Hip
2/3/20
Right Ankle
1/15/20
Knee
12/12/19
Illness
11/11/19
Ankle

Lower body injuries galore

the issue here is that he's too young to get this many injuries. i dont want to see when he gets older. i feel bad for him because he really tries.

[eddieheatfan]

Injury prone just means that you get injured a lot.

looks like he could be out for a month if not more

Here's some more info on sprains and other type of lower body injuries in NBA players:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8077287/

For more severe sprains, such as Grade 2 or 3, immobilization with a wrap or bracing device may also be employed for the first few days to weeks to minimize pain and further injury. The athlete may implement the use of crutches initially and transition to a walking boot as soon as weightbearing can be safely tolerated.

Rehabilitation begins with the implementation of proprioceptive training and muscle strengthening at 1-2 weeks post sprain. Closed chain lower extremity exercises can also be done bilaterally at this time. In weeks 2-3 post injury, unilateral closed chain exercises should be implemented along with straight line jogging and running. Braced, sport specific activities can usually be incorporated in weeks 3-4 depending on the severity of the initial injury. Full rehabilitation for moderate to severe sprains is usually accomplished by 6-8 weeks, at which time the athlete can safely return to competition.17 However, a history of previous sprains in an athlete should be considered as this may increase the likelihood of a subsequent.18

[VaDe255]

Not sure what you're laughing about. Herro injuring his ankle doesn't make him injury-prone; it's part of the game, and these things can happen randomly.

- His playing style, which doesn't heavily rely on physicality or aggression, actually reduces his risk for certain types of injuries
- He's known for his good work ethic and keeping his body in top condition
- Importantly, there's no history of chronic or recurring injuries with him, which is a key factor in considering someone as injury-prone

This narrative that he is injury-prone is just silly.

Dude is injured all the time, wtf are y’all even talking about

Idc how he got injured, idc if it’s strained left nut keeping him out or a sprained ankle regardless it is always something. Go look at the dudes career, he just finds a way regardless of what the injury.

Y’all can keep making excuses saying “they’re freak accidents” but the fact remains that he gets injured all the time and is therefore……………

Hopefully it’s a one off thing and he’s good all year but I highly doubt it.

Your perspective is influenced by recency bias. Looking at the broader picture, Herro plays a normal amount of games each season. When you compare his playing time to other NBA players, there's nothing extraordinary about the number of games he misses.

The playoff injury last year and this recent ankle injury are examples of 'freak injuries'—unexpected events that can happen to any player, irrespective of their injury history or playing style. These incidents don't necessarily signify a pattern of being injury-prone.

I understand the disappointment when a player we're all eager to see is sidelined. However, creating a narrative of him being injury-prone because of these isolated incidents is not an accurate reflection of his overall fitness or health.

Just a comparison to similiar players like him:

Herro 250 regular season games played since 2019
Poole 273 regular season games played since 2019
Simons 254 regular season games played since 2019
Maxey 203 regular season games played since 2020

This is a sport where players sustain knee, hand, ankle, shoulder and whatever injuries/bruises all the time that cause them to miss games

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not sure what you're laughing about. Herro injuring his ankle doesn't make him injury-prone; it's part of the game, and these things can happen randomly.

- His playing style, which doesn't heavily rely on physicality or aggression, actually reduces his risk for certain types of injuries
- He's known for his good work ethic and keeping his body in top condition
- Importantly, there's no history of chronic or recurring injuries with him, which is a key factor in considering someone as injury-prone

This narrative that he is injury-prone is just silly.

Dude is injured all the time, wtf are y’all even talking about

Idc how he got injured, idc if it’s strained left nut keeping him out or a sprained ankle regardless it is always something. Go look at the dudes career, he just finds a way regardless of what the injury.

Y’all can keep making excuses saying “they’re freak accidents” but the fact remains that he gets injured all the time and is therefore……………

Hopefully it’s a one off thing and he’s good all year but I highly doubt it.

Your perspective is influenced by recency bias. Looking at the broader picture, Herro plays a normal amount of games each season. When you compare his playing time to other NBA players, there's nothing extraordinary about the number of games he misses.

The playoff injury last year and this recent ankle injury are examples of 'freak injuries'—unexpected events that can happen to any player, irrespective of their injury history or playing style. These incidents don't necessarily signify a pattern of being injury-prone.

I understand the disappointment when a player we're all eager to see is sidelined. However, creating a narrative of him being injury-prone because of these isolated incidents is not an accurate reflection of his overall fitness or health.

Just a comparison to similiar players like him:

Herro 250 regular season games played since 2019
Poole 273 regular season games played since 2019
Simons 254 regular season games played since 2019
Maxey 203 regular season games played since 2020

This is a sport where players sustain knee, hand, ankle, shoulder and whatever injuries/bruises all the time that cause them to miss games

My perspective is influenced by the facts that Herro is always getting himself hurt and has played in less games than Jimmy since being here. This is not based on his 2 recent injuries, this is based on a career that I’ve watched very closely where he is missing games time and time again for minor and major injuries.

Freak injury or not idc, he’s still getting injured. Can’t even get a good read on him in the playoffs because when they come around he’s hurt (or using injury as an excuse for bad play).

[VaDe255]

Dude is injured all the time, wtf are y’all even talking about

Idc how he got injured, idc if it’s strained left nut keeping him out or a sprained ankle regardless it is always something. Go look at the dudes career, he just finds a way regardless of what the injury.

Y’all can keep making excuses saying “they’re freak accidents” but the fact remains that he gets injured all the time and is therefore……………

Hopefully it’s a one off thing and he’s good all year but I highly doubt it.

Your perspective is influenced by recency bias. Looking at the broader picture, Herro plays a normal amount of games each season. When you compare his playing time to other NBA players, there's nothing extraordinary about the number of games he misses.

The playoff injury last year and this recent ankle injury are examples of 'freak injuries'—unexpected events that can happen to any player, irrespective of their injury history or playing style. These incidents don't necessarily signify a pattern of being injury-prone.

I understand the disappointment when a player we're all eager to see is sidelined. However, creating a narrative of him being injury-prone because of these isolated incidents is not an accurate reflection of his overall fitness or health.

Just a comparison to similiar players like him:

Herro 250 regular season games played since 2019
Poole 273 regular season games played since 2019
Simons 254 regular season games played since 2019
Maxey 203 regular season games played since 2020

This is a sport where players sustain knee, hand, ankle, shoulder and whatever injuries/bruises all the time that cause them to miss games

My perspective is influenced by the facts that Herro is always getting himself hurt and has played in less games than Jimmy since being here. This is not based on his 2 recent injuries, this is based on a career that I’ve watched very closely where he is missing games time and time again for minor and major injuries.

Freak injury or not idc, he’s still getting injured. Can’t even get a good read on him in the playoffs because when they come around he’s hurt (or using injury as an excuse for bad play).

Players in the NBA are expected to miss about 20% of regular season games due to various reasons, including injury, rest to prevent injury, or illness. Herro's record is on the high end, but it's not alarmingly different from what's typical in the league.
The requirement of playing only 65 games to qualify for All-NBA honors reflects this.

In terms of playoff availability, Herro has played in 40 out of 42 possible games before his hand injury, which was a major one and not something he could play through. Jimmy played though the ankle injury, which normally would have sidelined him for about a month.

If we label Herro as injury-prone based on these statistics, then we'd have to apply the same label broadly across the league. I can agree with you that Herro is injury-prone, but going by that standard, almost everyone in the NBA would be injury-prone.