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**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#221 » by twix2500 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:46 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Did we secure the 15th pick, regardless of playin results????


i believe so, the biggest win of this season.

I am down with Ware or Collier at this point at the 15th pick even thou I feel they should be drafted earlier.
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Post#222 » by DayofMourning » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:28 pm

Ware
Da Silva
Carter

Can we get all 3 plz
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Post#223 » by MartyConlonJr » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:31 pm

I guess there is the question of whether Miami would draft someone with a questionable motor - even if it had been proven that a particular coach could 'eek' that change out or motivate them.

I guess James Johnson is a good indication of a player that got into our environment and became a workout warrior, but that turned out pretty bad after his contract.

Udonis was also overweight before he got here and dedicated himself, so maybe we would?

I feel like Heat would prefer find guys with intrinsic self motivation and work ethic than hope to extract it out of them though.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#224 » by DayofMourning » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:48 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:I guess there is the question of whether Miami would draft someone with a questionable motor - even if it had been proven that a particular coach could 'eek' that change out or motivate them.

I guess James Johnson is a good indication of a player that got into our environment and became a workout warrior, but that turned out pretty bad after his contract.

Udonis was also overweight before he got here and dedicated himself, so maybe we would?

I feel like Heat would prefer find guys with intrinsic self motivation and work ethic than hope to extract it out of them though.


We definitely are looking for self motivators. Guys whose fire burns without needing to be stoked.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#225 » by lastb1ckman » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:50 am

twix2500 wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Did we secure the 15th pick, regardless of playin results????


i believe so, the biggest win of this season.

I am down with Ware or Collier at this point at the 15th pick even thou I feel they should be drafted earlier.


I get liking Collier due to the ceiling, but that guy won't sniff the court outside the g league for atleast a season with us. He's a point guard that doesn't shoot well, protect the ball, or guard
the perimeter well. He has the potential learn how to do those things, but that usually requires playing and sucking on rebuilding teams. The Heat don't do that. Unless you're nba ready like Bam, Herro, or Jaquez rookies don't see the court. Collier would be Sioux Falls bound for awhile, maybe even longer than Jovic. Cause atleast Jovic plays an off ball position.
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Post#226 » by Pokuokic » Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:16 am

Could this be a year better/middling teams trade up if the consensus is that this draft is weak and there's no real out of the gate high level players? It's a good chance for these teams to snag a good player in some ways.
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Post#227 » by DayofMourning » Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:19 pm

Pokuokic wrote:Could this be a year better/middling teams trade up if the consensus is that this draft is weak and there's no real out of the gate high level players? It's a good chance for these teams to snag a good player in some ways.


Lotto is weak. Rest of draft looks decent. I wouldnt trade up for anyone in this draft.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#228 » by DayofMourning » Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:20 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Did we secure the 15th pick, regardless of playin results????


i believe so, the biggest win of this season.

I am down with Ware or Collier at this point at the 15th pick even thou I feel they should be drafted earlier.


I get liking Collier due to the ceiling, but that guy won't sniff the court outside the g league for atleast a season with us. He's a point guard that doesn't shoot well, protect the ball, or guard
the perimeter well. He has the potential learn how to do those things, but that usually requires playing and sucking on rebuilding teams. The Heat don't do that. Unless you're nba ready like Bam, Herro, or Jaquez rookies don't see the court. Collier would be Sioux Falls bound for awhile, maybe even longer than Jovic. Cause atleast Jovic plays an off ball position.


Word is Collier was only good at one thing this year-bulldogging his way to the rim. Pretty much below average at everything else. He was praised as being a high level POINT prospect but apparently hes not good at that either.
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Post#229 » by Pokuokic » Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:09 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
Pokuokic wrote:Could this be a year better/middling teams trade up if the consensus is that this draft is weak and there's no real out of the gate high level players? It's a good chance for these teams to snag a good player in some ways.


Lotto is weak. Rest of draft looks decent. I wouldnt trade up for anyone in this draft.

Would bad teams trade down would be a better question maybe.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#230 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:46 pm

McCain
Carter
Da Silva
Filipowski

That's my current top 4. I don't think Isiah Collier is a fit here. He can bully ball to the rim but he shoots nothing but bricks. Scoot Henderson syndrome.
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Post#231 » by lastb1ckman » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:06 pm

I'm thinking the only thing stopping them from picking Devin Carter at 15/16 is if someone takes him first. He's such a heat type player, he plays at a position of need, plus all the family connections to the heat.
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Post#232 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:30 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:I'm thinking the only thing stopping them from picking Devin Carter at 15/16 is if someone takes him first. He's such a heat type player, he plays at a position of need, plus all the family connections to the heat.

Yeah. I'd have to assume he's going to be really high on our board. He's an older prospect at 22 so good chance he slips by the lottery as the other teams are too busy taking high upside Euro's. I think we are now officially locked into the 15th pick. Carter or Da Silva who are both 22 year old prospects stand a great chance of being there at 15 when we pick
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Post#233 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:27 pm

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/tristan-da-silva-thrives-doing-the

Heat player. Looks like a workmanlike Kyle Kuzma
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#234 » by _GH0ST_ » Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:59 am

We don't need another rookie PF when we have a great long term project like Jovic.
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Post#235 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:21 pm

_GH0ST_ wrote:We don't need another rookie PF when we have a great long term project like Jovic.

Stretch 4’s are like the ultimate league unicorn so drafting Da Silva to give more depth at the position is not a terrible idea. I’m still going with Carter first if he’s there though. He embodies everything Heat. Absolute dog on the defensive end.
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Post#236 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:30 pm



Devin Carter is exactly the guard you want playing next to Herro. He’s gotta be our guy
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Post#237 » by DayofMourning » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:52 pm

I feel very confident we are getting a quality player. This draft could line up real well if it stays the course of mock drafts. Watch Matas get drafted high then Da Silva end up the obvs better player.
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Post#238 » by DayofMourning » Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:07 pm

Just watched the 24 McDonalds ASG.

Ron Harpers boy, Dylan, looked real good. Got co-MVP. Kid can do everything.

Hes going to Rutgers with fellow top 3 recruit, Ace Bailey.
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Post#239 » by lastb1ckman » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:55 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
_GH0ST_ wrote:We don't need another rookie PF when we have a great long term project like Jovic.

Stretch 4’s are like the ultimate league unicorn so drafting Da Silva to give more depth at the position is not a terrible idea. I’m still going with Carter first if he’s there though. He embodies everything Heat. Absolute dog on the defensive end.


Plus he's an actual POA defender, which we sorely need. The only good one we have is Delon, and he sometimes loses minutes to freaking Patty Mills.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024** 

Post#240 » by DayofMourning » Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:34 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
_GH0ST_ wrote:We don't need another rookie PF when we have a great long term project like Jovic.

Stretch 4’s are like the ultimate league unicorn so drafting Da Silva to give more depth at the position is not a terrible idea. I’m still going with Carter first if he’s there though. He embodies everything Heat. Absolute dog on the defensive end.


Plus he's an actual POA defender, which we sorely need. The only good one we have is Delon, and he sometimes loses minutes to freaking Patty Mills.


Hes also a plus plus rebounder for his position.

Since we refuse to have a BIG on the roster, having other guys with that ability is important.
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