**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

[DayofMourning]

Jared McCain out of Duke could be an interesting one for us. 6'3", 197lbs so a strong guard. He's a combo that plays a bit off ball, bit on ball, and is a legit shooter with some burst. Seems to be a pesky point of attack defender too.

2024 averages of 14/5/2 with a steal per game. 2.4 / 5.8 from 3, so shot a 41% clip on decent volume.

Seems like a lot of decent guard prospects this year. Id still go big man first if the right guy was there, but if not, theres plenty of good talent available where we should be picking.

[greg4012]

DaRon Holmes is an interesting prospect that I'll monitor and aim to learn more about. I recall liking him as a name discussed around here last year before he opted to return to Dayton for his junior season.

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Season    School Conf Class   G  GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  2P  2PA  2P%  3P 3PA  3P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF   PTS  SOS
2021-22   Dayton A-10    FR  35  35 30.7 5.2  8.1 .649 5.2  7.9 .662 0.0 0.2 .143 2.3 4.0 .586 1.5 4.5 6.1 1.3 0.4 2.3 1.3 1.6  12.8 2.41
2022-23   Dayton A-10    SO  34  34 34.3 6.8 11.5 .590 6.6 10.9 .604 0.2 0.6 .316 4.6 6.9 .669 2.9 5.2 8.1 1.7 0.7 1.9 2.3 2.1  18.4 1.09
2023-24   Dayton A-10    JR  33  33 32.5 6.6 12.1 .544 5.6  9.6 .585 1.0 2.5 .386 6.2 8.8 .713 1.7 6.8 8.5 2.6 0.9 2.1 2.2 2.0  20.4 5.79
Career               Dayton 102 102 32.5 6.2 10.5 .588 5.8  9.4 .614 0.4 1.1 .358 4.4 6.5 .671 2.0 5.5 7.5 1.9 0.7 2.1 1.9 1.9  17.1 3.09


6'10 (6'9 barefoot) with a 7'1 wingspan. He displayed improved 3 point shooting this season 38.6% on 2.5 3PA per game. Named A10 Player of the Year and DPOY this season.

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The big questions for me are if his 3 ball is real and if he has the defensive mobility to remain a positive defender in the NBA.

I'm seeing some encouraging perimeter defense in this film breakdown from last year with Sam Vecenie (defensive clips start around 22:20). I'm also impressed by how Holmes carries himself and seems to approach the game in general.

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[Pokuokic]

Drafting 23 year+ players in general in the first round is a disaster in the medium/long run and generally aside from a few exceptions (Brogdan/KO) is a disaster in the short run as well after the initial good play. Unless you are a team with a big 3 or Boston/Denver and already have elite talent you should always take the high upside players even those teams in general make the same mistake.

You could find better 22-23 year olds in Europe or the GLeague a lot of the time than the seniors /redshirts being drafted

[DayofMourning]

With five games left, we are slotted for the 16th pick in the draft.

[RexBoyWonder]

With five games left, we are slotted for the 16th pick in the draft.

Biggest thing I'm starting to think is -

We better not go for the safe 4 year player again.

This team needs to swing for an offensive star, because Bam and Herro ain't it and Jimmy ain't getting any younger.

We better go for the high upside kid, getting more role players will keep getting us into the play-in.

[DayofMourning]

With five games left, we are slotted for the 16th pick in the draft.

Biggest thing I'm starting to think is -

We better not go for the safe 4 year player again.

This team needs to swing for an offensive star, because Bam and Herro ain't it and Jimmy ain't getting any younger.

We better go for the high upside kid, getting more role players will keep getting us into the play-in.

I think you go for the BPA. 16 has pretty low gaurantees, so you have to appreciate the chances you have at striking gold. Maybe there is a Kawhi there, but likely not.

[twix2500]

Johnny Furphy 6'9 202 scoring wing.
9 pts, 4.9 rbs, 35.2 3pt%

I have become very intrigue in watching this guys tape. If his measurements are accurate, this kid moves extremely well for his size and has plenty of attributes to be a big time all-star. I am more intrigued by his potential than I was in Gradey Dick. He wouldnt be a plug and play player. He definitely would need to be developed but I see all-star potential talent level offensively. Like I was about Donovan Mitchell in the draft that he was the type of talent you trade up for and I was hoping the Heat would, I think Furphy may have that type of talent that if he is in the Heat reach they should trade up and secure him.

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[IceColdCubano]

Trade this years first rounder for next year first rounder, I feel like next year we would get better positioning, I expect a even worse season next year. This is going to keep looking worse until a couple guys get off the team, contracts expire or retire.

[twix2500]

Trade this years first rounder for next year first rounder, I feel like next year we would get better positioning, I expect a even worse season next year. This is going to keep looking worse until a couple guys get off the team, contracts expire or retire.

Unless there is not a talent available at 16 I would trade down. Because of the salary the Heat needs cheap labor.

[DayofMourning]

Trade this years first rounder for next year first rounder, I feel like next year we would get better positioning, I expect a even worse season next year. This is going to keep looking worse until a couple guys get off the team, contracts expire or retire.

I suggested we make a trade down with the Knicks for their 1st rounders this draft. Maybe our pick and Caleb?

Then draft Ware and Chomche.

[MettaWorldPanda]

This draft is going to suck so I'm all for trading the pick but if we end up having to use it the value is going to be at the combo guard spot with Collier(USC), McCain(Duke) and Carter(Providence) presenting the most upside best values when we pick. Tristan Da Silva is a 6'9 PF that has those Miami Heat traits but not worth reaching at with the 16th pick.

[twix2500]

The Enigma Grant Nelson 6'11 or 6'10 215 lbs athletic big
2023-24 stats 11.9 pts, 5.9 rbs, 1.5 ast, 27.3 3p%, 1.6 blks

Youtuble highlight star because of his obvious phyical athleticism and size. But he is a very undeveloped player. He is a Deandre Jordan type of player, where if his fundamentals meet his athleticism he will be a valuable NBA big. He athlecism fits Spo system. Boom or Bust type, he is either DeAndre Jordan or KZ Okpala. He is a type of player who can be a big factor in a game purely because of his physical attributes.

Wouldnt be surprised if the Heat target Nelson after the 16th pick, rather it be as a UDFA or a late pick. I wouldnt be surprise if he declares the heat will be working his agent behind closed doors.

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[twix2500]

PJ Hall vs Grant Nelson in NCAA tourney

PJ Hall
14 pts, 4 rbs, 2 ast

Grant Nelson
8 pts, 7 rbs, 2 blks, 2 ast

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PJ Hall vs Grant Nelson in the regular season

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[twix2500]

Love it when I scouting a player and during that i notice another player

Mark Sears an older guy but he has game
6'1 built like a tank point guard
21.2 pts, 4.2 rbs, 4 ast, 43 3p%

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[lastb1ckman]

I realllly don't think this is the draft to look for a boom or bust potential star, especially outside of high lottery. From top to bottom it seems to be full of potential role players. Lower ceiling, high floor upper classmen are surging up the draft boards because of this. Donovan Clingan might go top 5 and he likely won't bring much on offense at the next level.

[greg4012]

To me this draft kind of feels like a free for all. No clear top end talent so you may be just as likely to get a quality rotation player in the 20s as in the top 10.

I'd hate to be banking on a top 10 pick from this draft

[lastb1ckman]

I hope the Heat go for either a PG or Center. All of the players we have at PG outside of Rozier are either old or G-leaguers. Its a similar problem at back up C. Love can't keep this up forever, and I'm not optimistic on Orlando or Bryant long term. Since we have 2 picks this season, we can easily do that in this draft.

McCain, Kolek, or Collier at PG. Missi, Ware, Holmes, Bona or even Edey at C.

[lastb1ckman]

To me this draft kind of feels like a free for all. No clear top end talent so you may be just as likely to get a quality rotation player in the 20s as in the top 10.

I'd hate to be banking on a top 10 pick from this draft

This draft where I really hope the Heat just go with their gut rather than the consensus. If there even is any. That's probably all that seperates players outside the lottery this year.

[Bishop45]

[Bishop45]

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