Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Beal 6/17 14 points tonight.

Salary due next three seasons: $50M, $53M, $57M (player option)

And his no trade clause remains

Played as good as KD and Booker, you wouldn’t want them either?

[Bourne85]

Beal 6/17 14 points tonight.

Salary due next three seasons: $50M, $53M, $57M (player option)

And his no trade clause remains

Played as good as KD and Booker, you wouldn’t want them either?

Nah he’s right, Beal has been injured all year and when he’s played he’s been terrible/non factor. Beal wouldn’t change anything here. Good pass on this one. Dame is the one we needed to land, demanded to come here, and we still struck out. And that, was the season and likely the Jimmy window

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Beal 6/17 14 points tonight.

Salary due next three seasons: $50M, $53M, $57M (player option)

And his no trade clause remains

Played as good as KD and Booker, you wouldn’t want them either?

Nah he’s right, Beal has been injured all year and when he’s played he’s been terrible/non factor. Beal wouldn’t change anything here. Good pass on this one. Dame is the one we needed to land, demanded to come here, and we still struck out. And that, was the season and likely the Jimmy window

He averaged 18-5-5 on elite efficiency as a 3rd option lol the only part of your post that is accurate is the missed time but he still played more than that bum Herro everyone Stans for and is a far better player than Herro.

Swap those 2 and get KP and we’re competing for the championship right now, get just Beal and we’re a top 4 seed.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This is where we start to fail when it comes to team building, when we pretend we’re too good for highly talented all star level players and some in the fanbase eat that line of thinking up like it’s the gospel.

I’m praying that Pat doesn’t let this line of thinking cloud his judgment once again this summer when Mitchell becomes available after they get throttled in round 2. Enough of the overvaluing the role players on our team, we better not miss out on Mitchell because we made both Jaime and Jovic untouchable or some ish. If you can keep them great but they can not be the reason a deal doesn’t get done, find a middle ground.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Mitchell isn’t happening. There is no combination of Heat assets that will convince Dan Gilbert to send Mitchell to Miami. It doesn’t matter how friendly Mitchell is with Bam.

And we all know the Heat FO was holding out for Dame and passed on pursuing other additions because of it. They were correct to do so in a way because Dame did ask out. However, his agent severely overplayed his hand and made it personal with Cronin, who then cried to the league which resulted in that memo being issued. External forces made sure Dame to the Heat didn’t happen.

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[VaDe255]

Mitchell isn’t happening. There is no combination of Heat assets that will convince Dan Gilbert to send Mitchell to Miami. It doesn’t matter how friendly Mitchell is with Bam.

And we all know the Heat FO was holding out for Dame and passed on pursuing other additions because of it. They were correct to do so in a way because Dame did ask out. However, his agent severely overplayed his hand and made it personal with Cronin, who then cried to the league which resulted in that memo being issued. External forces made sure Dame to the Heat didn’t happen.

This is not the same as the Dame situation.
Mitchell has way more real leverage, his contract is basically expiring next year, because he can opt out of his last year.

He can't just be traded anywhere, as he can just walk.
It will be the same situation as Siakam was this year and Cleveland will have to trade him to a team he would sign with to get something in return.

If he really wants to be in Miami he can get here, it would make sense to send Herro to a 3rd team to clear up cap space and then combine JJJ, Jovic, remaining draft assets to get the deal done.

[batterybro42]

Mitchell isn’t happening. There is no combination of Heat assets that will convince Dan Gilbert to send Mitchell to Miami. It doesn’t matter how friendly Mitchell is with Bam.

And we all know the Heat FO was holding out for Dame and passed on pursuing other additions because of it. They were correct to do so in a way because Dame did ask out. However, his agent severely overplayed his hand and made it personal with Cronin, who then cried to the league which resulted in that memo being issued. External forces made sure Dame to the Heat didn’t happen.

This is not the same as the Dame situation.
Mitchell has way more real leverage, his contract is basically expiring next year, because he can opt out of his last year.

He can't just be traded anywhere, as he can just walk.
It will be the same situation as Siakam was this year and Cleveland will have to trade him to a team he would sign with to get something in return.

If he really wants to be in Miami he can get here, it would make sense to send Herro to a 3rd team to clear up cap space and then combine JJJ, Jovic, remaining draft assets to get the deal done.

Herro, JJJ plus a pick is more than enough for an expiring Mitchell

JJJ has legitimate value, as does our 15th pick in the draft, I do not believe Herro to be a negative asset, just not a very good one.

Rozier
Mitchell
Butler
Jovic
Bam
Robinson
Martin
Love

This is enough when healthy to get the job done

[batterybro42]

Would you be willing to draft Bronny at 15 and trade Herro and Robinson to sign LeBron for a two year deal?

This out of all the scenarios makes the most sense to me this offseason. Preserving the 2026 free agency window has to be a priority. This deal gets Herro off the books, and makes it possible to go into 2026 with Bam, Jovic, and JJJ with potentially two max slots open.

I don't think Miami should be targeting another long term star acquisition unless it just makes absolute sense. If we can get a two year rental right now for the right price that would be PERFECT

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We definitely have the assets to acquire Mitchell, especially if he speaks up on where he wants to go.

Hes essentially a free agent, he’s not going to stay in Cleveland and teams aren’t going to trade for him and his expiring unless they’re very confident he’ll stay or get word from him he’s interested in staying.

Let’s stop staging this to give the FO another pass on missing out on another star player who wants to be here by ignoring the entire situation. You all understand how these things work by now.

[Johnny Fontane]

If Mitchell caused a stink, Gilbert would rather him leave for nothing than get cucked by Miami again

[AirP.]

For those thinking Miami has the assets to acquire Mitchell, let's look at what Cleveland gave up for him.

* Sexton - Coming off injury, he's a young PG/SG that can put up 20+ ppg.
* Markkanen - Was just a good young big who exploded in Utah.
* Agbaji - Was a 2nd year player that was picked 14th overall.
* 3 1st round picks.
* 2 1st round swaps.

If you think Herro, Jaquez Jr and a couple of 1st are going to be enough, you'd probably be wrong, I'd expect Cleveland would take their chances in free agency resigning him.

https://www.nba.com/news/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavs

Miami needs to quit chasing players they can't get.

A couple of players that "could" be available...

If Phoenix can't get out of the first round, an older KD and quite possibly B.Beal could be available and pretty cheap in assets for their talent level. Miami would have to offload some money to a 3rd team more than likely.

[VaDe255]

For those thinking Miami has the assets to acquire Mitchell, let's look at what Cleveland gave up for him.

* Sexton - Coming off injury, he's a young PG/SG that can put up 20+ ppg.
* Markkanen - Was just a good young big who exploded in Utah.
* Agbaji - Was a 2nd year player that was picked 14th overall.
* 3 1st round picks.
* 2 1st round swaps.

If you think Herro, Jaquez Jr and a couple of 1st are going to be enough, you'd probably be wrong, I'd expect Cleveland would take their chances in free agency resigning him.

https://www.nba.com/news/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavs

Miami needs to quit chasing players they can't get.

A couple of players that "could" be available...

If Phoenix can't get out of the first round, an older KD and quite possibly B.Beal could be available and pretty cheap in assets for their talent level. Miami would have to offload some money to a 3rd team more than likely.

Doesn't matter what they paid, they aren't getting all of that back. Siakam went for 2 bad FRPs and one protected, it's exactly the same situation.
Mitchell probably nets a bit more, but he is expiring and a rental, pretty much no one is going to pay a lot for that.

Mostly about where Mitchell wants to go and those teams would be bidding for him (maybe he wants to stay then it is moot).

It's one of the deals that makes sense for the Heat, they need a true #1 option to pair with Bam.
Otherwise they might as well run it back, keep developing their young talent.
Wait a few years, till Jimmy/Terry are off the books and keep looking for that deal that gets them an elite scorer to pair with Bam.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

For those thinking Miami has the assets to acquire Mitchell, let's look at what Cleveland gave up for him.

* Sexton - Coming off injury, he's a young PG/SG that can put up 20+ ppg.
* Markkanen - Was just a good young big who exploded in Utah.
* Agbaji - Was a 2nd year player that was picked 14th overall.
* 3 1st round picks.
* 2 1st round swaps.

If you think Herro, Jaquez Jr and a couple of 1st are going to be enough, you'd probably be wrong, I'd expect Cleveland would take their chances in free agency resigning him.

https://www.nba.com/news/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavs

Miami needs to quit chasing players they can't get.

A couple of players that "could" be available...

If Phoenix can't get out of the first round, an older KD and quite possibly B.Beal could be available and pretty cheap in assets for their talent level. Miami would have to offload some money to a 3rd team more than likely.

They’re not getting anywhere near the value they got for Mitchell now that he’s 2 years older and expiring but Herro, 2 1sts and Jacquez or Jovic is a pretty good haul for a guy with those things working against him value wise

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’d bet KDs value is even higher still than Mitchell this summer if he were to ask out

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If Mitchell caused a stink, Gilbert would rather him leave for nothing than get cucked by Miami again

Doesn’t even need to cause a stink, simply be professional and tell them you have your sights set on being in Miami and thank them for your time in Cleveland. Mitchell has been professional and he’s been committed to winning since he’s been there, no need to make a fuss about it or anything in the media. It’s the same exact thing the Nets did with KD.

If Pat isn’t being an old stubborn fuxk trying to bend Gilbert over and comes to the table actually willing to work and negotiate they can get it done.

[AirP.]

For those thinking Miami has the assets to acquire Mitchell, let's look at what Cleveland gave up for him.

* Sexton - Coming off injury, he's a young PG/SG that can put up 20+ ppg.
* Markkanen - Was just a good young big who exploded in Utah.
* Agbaji - Was a 2nd year player that was picked 14th overall.
* 3 1st round picks.
* 2 1st round swaps.

If you think Herro, Jaquez Jr and a couple of 1st are going to be enough, you'd probably be wrong, I'd expect Cleveland would take their chances in free agency resigning him.

https://www.nba.com/news/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavs

Miami needs to quit chasing players they can't get.

A couple of players that "could" be available...

If Phoenix can't get out of the first round, an older KD and quite possibly B.Beal could be available and pretty cheap in assets for their talent level. Miami would have to offload some money to a 3rd team more than likely.

Doesn't matter what they paid, they aren't getting all of that back. Siakam went for 2 bad FRPs and one protected, it's exactly the same situation.
Mitchell probably nets a bit more, but he is expiring and a rental, pretty much no one is going to pay a lot for that.

Mostly about where Mitchell wants to go and those teams would be bidding for him (maybe he wants to stay then it is moot).

It's one of the deals that makes sense for the Heat, they need a true #1 option to pair with Bam.
Otherwise they might as well run it back, keep developing their young talent.
Wait a few years, till Jimmy/Terry are off the books and keep looking for that deal that gets them an elite scorer to pair with Bam.

It's nowhere near the same situation, Mitchell is younger by 2 years, considered a much better player and Cleveland is trying to contend while Toronto is in a rebuild meaning they didn't want to pay Pascal.

By the way, it cost Indiana 2 1st from this year's draft, a conditional 1st, Bruce Brown and a couple of throw ins. Maybe Miami should have made a run at Pascal by adding in another 1st and conditional first for what it cost for Rozier. I kinda like a Butler, Bam and Pascal front line.

[AirP.]

For those thinking Miami has the assets to acquire Mitchell, let's look at what Cleveland gave up for him.

* Sexton - Coming off injury, he's a young PG/SG that can put up 20+ ppg.
* Markkanen - Was just a good young big who exploded in Utah.
* Agbaji - Was a 2nd year player that was picked 14th overall.
* 3 1st round picks.
* 2 1st round swaps.

If you think Herro, Jaquez Jr and a couple of 1st are going to be enough, you'd probably be wrong, I'd expect Cleveland would take their chances in free agency resigning him.

https://www.nba.com/news/donovan-mitchell-traded-to-cavs

Miami needs to quit chasing players they can't get.

A couple of players that "could" be available...

If Phoenix can't get out of the first round, an older KD and quite possibly B.Beal could be available and pretty cheap in assets for their talent level. Miami would have to offload some money to a 3rd team more than likely.

They’re not getting anywhere near the value they got for Mitchell now that he’s 2 years older and expiring but Herro, 2 1sts and Jacquez or Jovic is a pretty good haul for a guy with those things working against him value wise

Herro who missed half the season this year and seems to miss significant time each season while being paid on average 30 mil and one other younger player with 2 1sts is a good haul for Mitchell? You better hope they think Herro can be a starting SG for a contender while also hoping nobody else is really wanting Mitchell.

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[Beenie]

Mitchell likes the Knicks and they like him and have assets to trade.

It’s not as simple as Pat ponying up when there’s viable competition who’s capable of outbidding Mia for Mitchell’s services.