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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#581 » by marson » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:13 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The Bam Tatum and Mitchell big 3 era in Miami is going to be amazing


You mean in Boston?
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Post#582 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:39 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The Bam Tatum and Mitchell big 3 era in Miami is going to be amazing


You mean in Boston?


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Post#583 » by balla345 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:13 am

im 100% certain that by coincidence everyone will be healthy come playoff time lol
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Post#584 » by Enso » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:00 am

some good losses for us tonight
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Post#585 » by Bishop45 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:07 am

10 more games this season, how does your Miami Heat fare?
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Post#586 » by Pokuokic » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:38 am

Bishop45 wrote:10 more games this season, how does your Miami Heat fare?

I'm lost without ICC's predictions
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Post#587 » by al bondiga » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:04 pm

Bishop45 wrote:10 more games this season, how does your Miami Heat fare?

We Have not fully played, so I can't tell Because it has been Mostly smoke and mirrors

This has been built as a team to be enjoyed in the playoffs
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Post#588 » by DayofMourning » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:33 pm

Bishop45 wrote:10 more games this season, how does your Miami Heat fare?


Typically Id look at who we are playing and determine it that way, but this year its a coin flip. 5-5?
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Post#589 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:57 pm

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Beasleys so good, if this dude just had his head on straight the big 3 run would’ve been even more insane, hell we might’ve 4 peated if he came close to his potential lol.

Yes I know he was traded to form the big 3 but if he was legit I think they would’ve made it work by keeping him as well
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Post#590 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:00 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:10 more games this season, how does your Miami Heat fare?


Typically Id look at who we are playing and determine it that way, but this year its a coin flip. 5-5?


How many of those games do we have the full roster? I would say potentially 3 of the 10 with those 3 being the last 3 games of the season. We actually don’t even have the luxury of resting guys the last couple games due to the standings being so close (although even when Jimmy plays he’s resting at the same time).
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Post#592 » by El Alonzo scowl » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:24 pm

Bishop45 wrote:10 more games this season, how does your Miami Heat fare?

Portland Scumbags W
@Wiz W *gulp* hopefully
Knicks L
76ers L
@Rockets L
@Pacers L
@Hawks L
Mavs L
Raptors W
Raptors L

Play-in and if we survive, Milwaukee or Boston in the first round. Probably lose in 5 games. Zero hope and faith left in this team. They don't care, they're injured, Spo is doing dumb sh*t like giving Patty Mills all the minutes, no chemistry nor continuity. Then the offseason comes, we miss out on a whale again, and we get run it back for the 9th time and have another miserable play-in regular season.
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Post#593 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:50 pm

El Alonzo scowl wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:10 more games this season, how does your Miami Heat fare?

Portland Scumbags W
@Wiz W *gulp* hopefully
Knicks L
76ers L
@Rockets L
@Pacers L
@Hawks L
Mavs L
Raptors W
Raptors L

Play-in and if we survive, Milwaukee or Boston in the first round. Probably lose in 5 games. Zero hope and faith left in this team. They don't care, they're injured, Spo is doing dumb sh*t like giving Patty Mills all the minutes, no chemistry nor continuity. Then the offseason comes, we miss out on a whale again, and we get run it back for the 9th time and have another miserable play-in regular season.


Pat Riley striking out on another couple all stars this summer then hits us with the “we owed it to this group to run it back and try again with a full season of Terry and a healthy Tyler” just for Tyler to miss 40 games next season
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Post#594 » by greg4012 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:58 pm

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Beasleys so good, if this dude just had his head on straight the big 3 run would’ve been even more insane, hell we might’ve 4 peated if he came close to his potential lol.

Yes I know he was traded to form the big 3 but if he was legit I think they would’ve made it work by keeping him as well


No option to pass and no need to read the court or play in coordination with others = Beasley at his best

Add in those other elements plus defense and things go downhill quick
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Post#595 » by greg4012 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:09 pm

Make sure you all get your regular dose of Coup. In this edition: Coup makes the clear case why Bam Adebayo is the best defensive player in the NBA, even if the counting stats-obsessed media and general public will never recognize him as such. I highly recommend reading the whole article.

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While not an elite rim protector, his defensive percentages in the restricted area hovering around league average this season, Adebayo is making traditional coverages work as an elite rim deterrent. Miami allows the fewest rim attempts in the league and 4.3 percent fewer with Adebayo on the floor – not to mention 3.5 percent fewer corner threes, the greatest differential of player – a split which is neck-and-neck for No. 2 with Rudy Gobert. Miami’s scheme, one of the most aggressive in the league, plays a major role, all those arms and hands shrinking into driving lanes, but scheme alone accomplishes nothing and Adebayo typically gets less help than his teammates by design. Both Adebayo and the 7-foot-1 Gobert allow the same volume of combined rim and three-point frequency (about 22 percent of actions defended results in those attempts).


Is drop Adebayo’s best coverage? Hardly. Playing out of it so often is him being willing to be “vulnerable to the competition” as Spoelstra put it recently when describing Adebayo’s willingness to take on the Nikola Jokic full time even if doesn’t always cast him in a flattering light. The drop remains but one part of the package – 53.5 percent of his coverages have been drop, a career high and just three percentage points behind Gobert, where common comparison Draymond Green never topped 40 percent – and of the 33 players who have defended at least 1,000 screens in any coverage, Adebayo moves all the way up to No. 5 at 0.96 points allowed per action, his 0.83 mark when the ballhandler attacks in a dead heat with Gobert.

It's not that Adebayo has been the best drop player in the league, it’s that he’s remained one of the best pick-and-roll defenders in the league despite shifting to a coverage that should be the antithesis of his skillset. And that’s on top of him remaining a Top 5 isolation defender, 0.79 points-allowed-per against ballhandlers, No. 5 of 77 qualified players. Of the 136 isolations he’s defended this season, he’s only allowed seven rim attempts. Not to mention he’s allowing less than a point-per-possession in both closeout and drive situations, as the tracking data goes, Top 10 in each category.

“To be able to do drop, switch, trap and zone all in the same game and have the best numbers in all of those coverages, and one-on-one, that’s not normal,” Spoelstra says.

Adebayo’s wild card in the Defensive Player of the Year race is that he’s had to hold Miami’s defense – Top 10 and the equivalent of No. 2 in Defensive Rating when Adebayo is on the floor – together and keep it on the tracks like Spider-Man after fighting Doc Ock atop the elevated train. Miami is one of only four teams with just a single player over +1.0 in Defensive EPM (via dunksandthrees.com), and the other three are No. 20 (Chicago), 22 (San Antonio) and 28 (Charlotte) on the leaderboards. Miami has used a franchise-record 35 starting lineups, Adebayo’s two most used five-man lineups have combined for 194 minutes compared to 500+ for other Defensive Player of the Year favorites (some of whom have as many as five teammates over 1.0 in Def EPM) and he only has one defensive pick-and-roll combination (Caleb Martin) with whom he’s defended at least 200 screens this season. It’s one thing to change your primary coverage to accommodate an evolving roster, another entirely to not know who on that roster will be playing with you on any given night.

Your mileage may vary on On/Off numbers in general, but Miami’s halfcourt defense is 9.3 points per 100 better with Adebayo playing, per cleaningtheglass.com, double that of the other awards favorites and hot on the heels of the No. 1 big man in that differential, Brook Lopez at 9.6. Those differentials aren’t everything but lineups don’t exist in a vacuum, either. You’re playing with many of the same players who are also on the court when you aren’t, and fact of the matter is Miami’s halfcourt defense is the equivalent of No. 2 in the league with him, No. 27 without him, a similar effect occurring if you swap over to tracking data and isolate man-to-man possessions. Then in the zone, which Adebayo frequently captains from the backline, Miami is the equivalent to the No. 1 halfcourt defense with him in the zone, No. 30 without him.


Besides, when the playoffs come around and everything slows down, the switch will always be there when it’s needed. Adebayo, Miami’s walking Room of Requirement, makes it all possible.
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Post#597 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:05 pm

It really is a shame Bam will never win DPOY. Hes a bigger, faster, stronger, more athletic Draymond with a far better scoring skillset he’s just not a fuxkin lunatic and doesn’t play with Steph so he doesn’t get clout.
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Post#598 » by twix2500 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:55 pm

Heat are gonna have to find a minimum of two core players thats good enough to build around this summer. Plus it might be time to move Bam to the PF.
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Post#599 » by twix2500 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:38 am

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Beasleys so good, if this dude just had his head on straight the big 3 run would’ve been even more insane, hell we might’ve 4 peated if he came close to his potential lol.

Yes I know he was traded to form the big 3 but if he was legit I think they would’ve made it work by keeping him as well


No option to pass and no need to read the court or play in coordination with others = Beasley at his best

Add in those other elements plus defense and things go downhill quick





I said this a long time ago, Beasley biggest problem was learning how to be a professional. Had a lot of family problems. He likely needed to be put in therapy as soon as he got drafted. I met him once in Miami his rookie year before training camp or during camp i cant remember. Spoke to him for bit, very nice kid, but the first impression was he was truly a kid. The way he talked and very nervous and big eyed. You could see a 14 year old mind in a grown man body in a city like Miami by himself with a lot of money. And the first response in my head after talking to him was Ooohh boy good luck kid.

Listen to him explain that he was extremely high on draft night that he couldnt get excited when they called his name. Says a lot.
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Post#600 » by Wiltside » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:56 am

It’s a damn shame, Twix. He was probably a decade plus too early as a talent. If he was being drafted this year, expectations around defense and positional fits would be different, and support and understanding of mental health would’ve been there for him. He’s a good dude who made some bad decisions. Always got love for Beas.
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