Heat vs Mavs April 10th 730 PM EST

[3ammy3uck3ts]

PJ Washington was such a great get for the Mavs

Isn't that Herro's bestie? We stay missing out on besties.

Would have been such a perfect fit here

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

[Flash4thewin]

Then you're saying Spoelstra is just stupid playing that player 36 minutes in game #80 when they have to get ready for the play-in game(s)?

Old and declining doesn't mean he's incapable of back to backs unless he's carrying something. Even if not 100 he could still have contributed. They still had a shot 6 so I dont mind Butler playing trying to go for it. Now that they're pretty much set at the 7/8th they should probably rest Bam and Butler for the last 2 games. But it makes sense going for the 6th seed and getting an extra week of rest and practice

Absolutely, I'm just saying Butler isn't even giving close to what he's capable of giving at his current age/health. I've seen him do this way too many times and then flip a switch of effort and doing some amazing things. For instance everyone questioning him his first year in Miami about him no longer able to score then drops 30 in the first half against Phoenix then barely shooting in the 2nd half just to make a point he could score, I've seen him put up 2 points in a 1st half and then drop 40 more in the 2nd half, he isn't trying, we can argue how much he could give but it's a hell of a lot more than he's giving now and I highly doubt he'll say publicly why he's doing it, he'll just deflect the questions to not throw anyone under the bus if he's got a problem with someone.

Jimmy is just mirroring our front office, that’s pretty evident to see. When Jimmy get fed up he won’t stay quite, that’s not who he is. Jimmy will have no problem forcing things, burning thing down to the ground while watching with a smile, this is just him setting the stage mirroring our front office.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Mavs -3.5

Too easy

Hope you got it at -1.5 before tipoff too!

[carnageta]

Isn't that Herro's bestie? We stay missing out on besties.

Would have been such a perfect fit here

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

Sleepy Pat has made 3 conference finals appearances in the past 4 postseasons. Mavs have made none.

[AirP.]

Isn't that Herro's bestie? We stay missing out on besties.

Would have been such a perfect fit here

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

Well, the Mavs had to go through a lot of changes in multiple years to get to this point. They went all in on Luka and Porzingis, that didn't work and they moved on and it took them 2 years to rearrange their talent which also took a risky move in adding Kyrie to get to this point. You need talent to win in this league and Miami for whatever reason think they can just grow talent. The same eyes that saw Herro as a better version than Booker also said no to Maxie at the 20th pick of the 2020 draft basically knowing they were just drafting Precious as a backup for Bam. The draft is such a hit or miss situation.

The lightyears ahead of everyone else Golden State Warriors took a step back, had MULTIPLE lottery picks to add to a Curry, Draymond and Klay core and basically completely swung and missed.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Would have been such a perfect fit here

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

Sleepy Pat has made 3 conference finals appearances in the past 4 postseasons. Mavs have made none.

The power of Jimmy Bam and Spo is elite when it matters most, or at least was.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Would have been such a perfect fit here

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

Well, the Mavs had to go through a lot of changes in multiple years to get to this point. They went all in on Luka and Porzingis, that didn't work and they moved on and it took them 2 years to rearrange their talent which also took a risky move in adding Kyrie to get to this point. You need talent to win in this league and Miami for whatever reason think they can just grow talent. The same eyes that saw Herro as a better version than Booker also said no to Maxie at the 20th pick of the 2020 draft basically knowing they were just drafting Precious as a backup for Bam. The draft is such a hit or miss situation.

The lightyears ahead of everyone else Golden State Warriors took a step back, had MULTIPLE lottery picks to add to a Curry, Draymond and Klay core and basically completely swung and missed.

Yep, gotta add talent and gotta take risks. We’ve basically done neither despite our success. I’d damn near argue we win it all with Kyrie or Mitchell last season.

[AirP.]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Would have been such a perfect fit here

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

Well, the Mavs had to go through a lot of changes in multiple years to get to this point. They went all in on Luka and Porzingis, that didn't work and they moved on and it took them 2 years to rearrange their talent which also took a risky move in adding Kyrie to get to this point. You need talent to win in this league and Miami for whatever reason think they can just grow talent. The same eyes that saw Herro as a better version than Booker also said no to Maxie at the 20th pick of the 2020 draft basically knowing they were just drafting Precious as a backup for Bam. The draft is such a hit or miss situation.

The lightyears ahead of everyone else Golden State Warriors took a step back, had MULTIPLE lottery picks to add to a Curry, Draymond and Klay core and basically completely swung and missed.

We passed on Maxey caused he signed with Klutch. Deny it all you want but feel like it played a major factor. We got suckered with Achuiwa like we did with Winslow. Both players who were rated higher on mock drafts that fell to us that we felt was good value when we picked even passing on players who we worked out and liked. Achuiwa dropping was our excuse to pass on Klutch Maxey cause at the time they could say hey we took the higher rated player.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

Well, the Mavs had to go through a lot of changes in multiple years to get to this point. They went all in on Luka and Porzingis, that didn't work and they moved on and it took them 2 years to rearrange their talent which also took a risky move in adding Kyrie to get to this point. You need talent to win in this league and Miami for whatever reason think they can just grow talent. The same eyes that saw Herro as a better version than Booker also said no to Maxie at the 20th pick of the 2020 draft basically knowing they were just drafting Precious as a backup for Bam. The draft is such a hit or miss situation.

The lightyears ahead of everyone else Golden State Warriors took a step back, had MULTIPLE lottery picks to add to a Curry, Draymond and Klay core and basically completely swung and missed.

We passed on Maxey caused he signed with Klutch. Deny it all you want but feel like it played a major factor. We got suckered with Achuiwa like we did with Winslow. Both players who were rated higher on mock drafts that fell to us that we felt was good value when we picked even passing on players who we worked out and liked. Achuiwa dropping was our excuse to pass on Klutch Maxey cause at the time they could say hey we took the higher rated player.

It’s a damn shame

[AirP.]

Props to the Mavs front office. Their weakness was always their bigs, they snagged 2 great fits and it has completely changed their team. 16-2 last 18. They’ve paired the champion and super clutch Kyrie with Luka and have their 3 and D wing in DJJ. They’re going to beat the clippers round 1.

Sleepy Pat had several chances, he fumbled every single one.

Well, the Mavs had to go through a lot of changes in multiple years to get to this point. They went all in on Luka and Porzingis, that didn't work and they moved on and it took them 2 years to rearrange their talent which also took a risky move in adding Kyrie to get to this point. You need talent to win in this league and Miami for whatever reason think they can just grow talent. The same eyes that saw Herro as a better version than Booker also said no to Maxie at the 20th pick of the 2020 draft basically knowing they were just drafting Precious as a backup for Bam. The draft is such a hit or miss situation.

The lightyears ahead of everyone else Golden State Warriors took a step back, had MULTIPLE lottery picks to add to a Curry, Draymond and Klay core and basically completely swung and missed.

We passed on Maxey caused he signed with Klutch. Deny it all you want but feel like it played a major factor. We got suckered with Achuiwa like we did with Winslow. Both players who were rated higher on mock drafts that fell to us that we felt was good value when we picked even passing on players who we worked out and liked. Achuiwa dropping was our excuse to pass on Klutch Maxey cause at the time they could say hey we took the higher rated player.

The point I'm trying to make is that Miami drafted a BACKUP at #20 vs looking for the best talent on the board. I don't believe Precious played 1 minute with Bam his entire time in Miami, that had to be a known possibility at the time of the draft that Spoelstra would not play him... not even TRY to play him with Bam and with that, you were using a FRP on a career backup player or someone you were willing to only get 4 years out of before they signed somewhere else. Quickly, Tre Jones, D.Bane, and others were still on the board that would have had a better chance at getting big minutes in a few years under their belt in Miami. Miami actively drafted a player with a 1st round pick to play maybe.... 20 minutes a night and his rookie year he got 12 minutes a night.

[Vertical Limit]

We need to blow it up after the season.. Bam can stay.. butler is on his last legs… everyone has got to go and we got to recreate Miami Heat basketball.. i said the same thing before the start of last years miracle playoff run.. this feels like we have oversaturated the core of bam and butler (and herro if you want to count him as part of it even though hes rarely there).

I dont see any moves we can do in the summer that will vastly improve our team but there is absolutely no way we can ask Arison to continue to pay tax for such a underwhelming team..

We cant hit a **** shot.. our team is putting up points comparable to 90s basketball..

[MettaWorldPanda]

Well, the Mavs had to go through a lot of changes in multiple years to get to this point. They went all in on Luka and Porzingis, that didn't work and they moved on and it took them 2 years to rearrange their talent which also took a risky move in adding Kyrie to get to this point. You need talent to win in this league and Miami for whatever reason think they can just grow talent. The same eyes that saw Herro as a better version than Booker also said no to Maxie at the 20th pick of the 2020 draft basically knowing they were just drafting Precious as a backup for Bam. The draft is such a hit or miss situation.

The lightyears ahead of everyone else Golden State Warriors took a step back, had MULTIPLE lottery picks to add to a Curry, Draymond and Klay core and basically completely swung and missed.

We passed on Maxey caused he signed with Klutch. Deny it all you want but feel like it played a major factor. We got suckered with Achuiwa like we did with Winslow. Both players who were rated higher on mock drafts that fell to us that we felt was good value when we picked even passing on players who we worked out and liked. Achuiwa dropping was our excuse to pass on Klutch Maxey cause at the time they could say hey we took the higher rated player.

It’s a damn shame

The worst possible thing to happen to us in the draft with Winslow was the other teams passing on him. We were 100% lined up to take Booker. We did all the homework and loved him pre draft. We got bamboozled with Winslow with the Arison/Duke ties and him coming off winning the chip with them. It was just awful perfect storm bad luck. We never even worked out Winslow. Such a franchise altering place in time. Kinda crazy

[MettaWorldPanda]

Well, the Mavs had to go through a lot of changes in multiple years to get to this point. They went all in on Luka and Porzingis, that didn't work and they moved on and it took them 2 years to rearrange their talent which also took a risky move in adding Kyrie to get to this point. You need talent to win in this league and Miami for whatever reason think they can just grow talent. The same eyes that saw Herro as a better version than Booker also said no to Maxie at the 20th pick of the 2020 draft basically knowing they were just drafting Precious as a backup for Bam. The draft is such a hit or miss situation.

The lightyears ahead of everyone else Golden State Warriors took a step back, had MULTIPLE lottery picks to add to a Curry, Draymond and Klay core and basically completely swung and missed.

We passed on Maxey caused he signed with Klutch. Deny it all you want but feel like it played a major factor. We got suckered with Achuiwa like we did with Winslow. Both players who were rated higher on mock drafts that fell to us that we felt was good value when we picked even passing on players who we worked out and liked. Achuiwa dropping was our excuse to pass on Klutch Maxey cause at the time they could say hey we took the higher rated player.

The point I'm trying to make is that Miami drafted a BACKUP at #20 vs looking for the best talent on the board. I don't believe Precious played 1 minute with Bam his entire time in Miami, that had to be a known possibility at the time of the draft that Spoelstra would not play him... not even TRY to play him with Bam and with that, you were using a FRP on a career backup player or someone you were willing to only get 4 years out of before they signed somewhere else. Quickly, Tre Jones, D.Bane, and others were still on the board that would have had a better chance at getting big minutes in a few years under their belt in Miami. Miami actively drafted a player with a 1st round pick to play maybe.... 20 minutes a night and his rookie year he got 12 minutes a night.

I was pumping for Quickley hard in that draft if we passed on Maxey. We got mock draft Winslow’d with Achuiwa slipping. Lightening struck twice on us. We didn’t learn our lesson.

[AirP.]

We need to blow it up after the season.. Bam can stay.. butler is on his last legs… everyone has got to go and we got to recreate Miami Heat basketball.. i said the same thing before the start of last years miracle playoff run.. this feels like we have oversaturated the core of bam and butler (and herro if you want to count him as part of it even though hes rarely there).

I dont see any moves we can do in the summer that will vastly improve our team but there is absolutely no way we can ask Arison to continue to pay tax for such a underwhelming team..

We cant hit a **** shot.. our team is putting up points comparable to 90s basketball..

You don't need to completely blow it up, but you have to make some moves, get some hungry players to Miami and at least 1 if not multiple aholes to push or challenge Butler each night. Crowder, Tucker, Strus and possibly Lowry and Iggy held those roles, this year there's nobody to get in Butler's face to motivate him on a Wednesday night in the regular season. Bam isn't that guy at this time and might not be that guy in the future.

Someone brought up a name in a twitter space tonight I've mentioned many times before, Pat Bev and people in the space laughed, what these people don't understand it's not about Pat Bev producing, it's about him motivating players on the roster to get more out of them. Miami needs an agitator.

Let me toss out a name that would get the fire going for Miami again for next season... Draymond Green. He's not the player he once was, but he's smart and willing to express himself to ANYONE and I completely believe you'd get more out of Butler and Bam with him on the roster.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We passed on Maxey caused he signed with Klutch. Deny it all you want but feel like it played a major factor. We got suckered with Achuiwa like we did with Winslow. Both players who were rated higher on mock drafts that fell to us that we felt was good value when we picked even passing on players who we worked out and liked. Achuiwa dropping was our excuse to pass on Klutch Maxey cause at the time they could say hey we took the higher rated player.

The point I'm trying to make is that Miami drafted a BACKUP at #20 vs looking for the best talent on the board. I don't believe Precious played 1 minute with Bam his entire time in Miami, that had to be a known possibility at the time of the draft that Spoelstra would not play him... not even TRY to play him with Bam and with that, you were using a FRP on a career backup player or someone you were willing to only get 4 years out of before they signed somewhere else. Quickly, Tre Jones, D.Bane, and others were still on the board that would have had a better chance at getting big minutes in a few years under their belt in Miami. Miami actively drafted a player with a 1st round pick to play maybe.... 20 minutes a night and his rookie year he got 12 minutes a night.

I was pumping for Quickley hard in that draft if we passed on Maxey. We got mock draft Winslow’d with Achuiwa slipping. Lightening struck twice on us. We didn’t learn our lesson.

I’ll tell you where lightning isn’t striking twice, our fuxkin playoff run if we even make it. This team is COOKED we ran it back way too many times without significant upgrade when available and it’s back fired heavily this year. Pack us up.

[Daffy]

I remember when people here didn't want Dame or Kyrie or even Beal. Well.....here we are.

[MettaWorldPanda]

The point I'm trying to make is that Miami drafted a BACKUP at #20 vs looking for the best talent on the board. I don't believe Precious played 1 minute with Bam his entire time in Miami, that had to be a known possibility at the time of the draft that Spoelstra would not play him... not even TRY to play him with Bam and with that, you were using a FRP on a career backup player or someone you were willing to only get 4 years out of before they signed somewhere else. Quickly, Tre Jones, D.Bane, and others were still on the board that would have had a better chance at getting big minutes in a few years under their belt in Miami. Miami actively drafted a player with a 1st round pick to play maybe.... 20 minutes a night and his rookie year he got 12 minutes a night.

I was pumping for Quickley hard in that draft if we passed on Maxey. We got mock draft Winslow’d with Achuiwa slipping. Lightening struck twice on us. We didn’t learn our lesson.

I’ll tell you where lightning isn’t striking twice, our fuxkin playoff run if we even make it. This team is COOKED we ran it back way too many times without significant upgrade when available and it’s back fired heavily this year. Pack us up.

This year has the same feeling when we got violently swept by the Bucks in the first round.

[Daffy]

I was pumping for Quickley hard in that draft if we passed on Maxey. We got mock draft Winslow’d with Achuiwa slipping. Lightening struck twice on us. We didn’t learn our lesson.

I’ll tell you where lightning isn’t striking twice, our fuxkin playoff run if we even make it. This team is COOKED we ran it back way too many times without significant upgrade when available and it’s back fired heavily this year. Pack us up.

This year has the same feeling when we got violently swept by the Bucks in the first round.

Memories I try to pretend never happened.

[Daffy]

I was pumping for Quickley hard in that draft if we passed on Maxey. We got mock draft Winslow’d with Achuiwa slipping. Lightening struck twice on us. We didn’t learn our lesson.

I’ll tell you where lightning isn’t striking twice, our fuxkin playoff run if we even make it. This team is COOKED we ran it back way too many times without significant upgrade when available and it’s back fired heavily this year. Pack us up.

This year has the same feeling when we got violently swept by the Bucks in the first round.

I almost forgot how bad it was until you added the word "violently". Lol those were some terrible times.