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Wiltside wrote:Assuming Jimmy is out vs Chicago, that game is actually going to be tough to get a W.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiltside wrote:Assuming Jimmy is out vs Chicago, that game is actually going to be tough to get a W.
Crazier things have happened. It’s possible we have more lineup stabilization with Martin starting at the 3 now with Herro at the two. Wright and Mills will now be the PG rotation. Mills can always catch fire.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiltside wrote:Assuming Jimmy is out vs Chicago, that game is actually going to be tough to get a W.
Crazier things have happened. It’s possible we have more lineup stabilization with Martin starting at the 3 now with Herro at the two. Wright and Mills will now be the PG rotation. Mills can always catch fire.
Wiltside wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiltside wrote:Assuming Jimmy is out vs Chicago, that game is actually going to be tough to get a W.
Crazier things have happened. It’s possible we have more lineup stabilization with Martin starting at the 3 now with Herro at the two. Wright and Mills will now be the PG rotation. Mills can always catch fire.
Is there any word on Rozier? Is he likely to be available?
IceColdCubano wrote:Wiltside wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Crazier things have happened. It’s possible we have more lineup stabilization with Martin starting at the 3 now with Herro at the two. Wright and Mills will now be the PG rotation. Mills can always catch fire.
Is there any word on Rozier? Is he likely to be available?
He isn't playing on Friday, I saw the 5 Reason Podcast and word from the team to Ethan was he was very far away from returning, he said don't be surprised if you don't even see him during a first round matchup.
powerball1373 wrote:AirP. wrote:powerball1373 wrote:
Indeed, it's insane that our two franchise players didn't want to be more aggressive on offense.
Also, you know 3ammy on some 3ull3hit when he starts with the 'brother' lmfao. Every time.
Even before Butler was hurt, Herro had the ball and was gunning, I get gunning when you're hot that particular game but he wasn't and instead of finding another way to get himself going he doubled down on taking shots. 27 of them and he missed 18 of those shots.
What's sad is that this was somewhat expected, in 2 games vs Philly this season he scored 22.5 points on 24 shot attempts, he only attempted 3 more than that average. He didn't play in any Chicago games so who know what'll happen. If Butler doesn't play, I could see him dropping 30 on 35 shots.
I don't think he was gunning in the sense of taking bad shots. Majority of them were good shots that I'm assuming the team WANTS him to take, he just had an off night. It would've been much worse if he went into a shell and stopped shooting. At least he had the balls to go out guns blazing.
He actually seemed to do a pretty good job of finding teammates as well, as evidenced by the 9 assists. You're making it seem like he was out there chucking awful shot after shot, in which case I'm sure he would've gotten benched.
"I thought the adrenaline would kick back in and I would be able to move, and it just wasn’t the case. I wasn’t able to do anything on either side of the ball."
Pokuokic wrote:AirP. wrote:al bondiga wrote: The fact is 99 Percent life is like that
we just don't see it
It's All about confidence with no skills To match it
But now and then a jordan kobe or lebron come around
You put Herro's mindset in Jovic's head and you probably have a good to great scorer. Jovic just happens to have the size and enough athletic ability where he could become a good scorer in the NBA but I don't think he has the mindset to do that.
He's been used as a spot up shooter/5th option the entire season and than add to that Bam leaving his rebounding area to stat pad instead of letting Jovic grab it and run which he should do everytime he can. If Jovic was allowed to handle/create as much as Herro/Martin/JJJ he would be cooking. Its fitting a Jovic type player cooked the Heat tonight.
AirP. wrote:Pokuokic wrote:AirP. wrote:You put Herro's mindset in Jovic's head and you probably have a good to great scorer. Jovic just happens to have the size and enough athletic ability where he could become a good scorer in the NBA but I don't think he has the mindset to do that.
He's been used as a spot up shooter/5th option the entire season and than add to that Bam leaving his rebounding area to stat pad instead of letting Jovic grab it and run which he should do everytime he can. If Jovic was allowed to handle/create as much as Herro/Martin/JJJ he would be cooking. Its fitting a Jovic type player cooked the Heat tonight.
Cooking doesn't exactly mean he'd be an all-star level player; it could mean he'll be a nice player for Miami.
Vertical Limit wrote:This era of Heat basketball is coming to an end.. we have to overhaul the team.
Jimmy’s contract will be nearly impossible to move with 48 and a 52 player option, so i assume he stays until he becomes a giant expiring in 25/26.. but everyone else around bam and jimmy, they got to go.
Vertical Limit wrote:This era of Heat basketball is coming to an end.. we have to overhaul the team.
Jimmy’s contract will be nearly impossible to move with 48 and a 52 player option, so i assume he stays until he becomes a giant expiring in 25/26.. but everyone else around bam and jimmy, they got to go.
Vertical Limit wrote:This era of Heat basketball is coming to an end.. we have to overhaul the team.
Jimmy’s contract will be nearly impossible to move with 48 and a 52 player option, so i assume he stays until he becomes a giant expiring in 25/26.. but everyone else around bam and jimmy, they got to go.
Johnny Fontane wrote:Vertical Limit wrote:This era of Heat basketball is coming to an end.. we have to overhaul the team.
Jimmy’s contract will be nearly impossible to move with 48 and a 52 player option, so i assume he stays until he becomes a giant expiring in 25/26.. but everyone else around bam and jimmy, they got to go.
It should have been over last season until we went on that fluke run. The optics would have been horrible to trade Jimmy then. Now it’s time, this fantasy that we’re ever going to win a title with this group has long sailed away. Jimmy and Bam are simply not going to compliment each others games as Jimmy heads into his twilight years
MettaWorldPanda wrote:contract wrote:Slot Machine wrote:?
Herro and his contract are negative value at this point, at best, neutral value. How would he possibly net us Mitchell or Ingram (even with other pieces thrown in)?
Herro wasn't enough even with Lillard trying to strong arm his way here. I'd be surprised if he can be the main piece in a trade that nets us a better player without a star having an expiring contract and giving his existing team an ultimatum.
I don't see this team improving anytime soon.
They didn’t need Herro. Team had two young guards like him already on the roster. Plus Cronin dug in about not wanting to grant Dame’s wishes
Team Small Ball MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiltside wrote:Assuming Jimmy is out vs Chicago, that game is actually going to be tough to get a W.
Crazier things have happened. It’s possible we have more lineup stabilization with Martin starting at the 3 now with Herro at the two. Wright and Mills will now be the PG rotation. Mills can always catch fire.
Team Small Ball Keep in mind that this defensive identity of zone playing with small people, has been drilled into the heads of all our playersMettaWorldPanda wrote:This team and Spo with all his cliches of “we have enough” and “doing it the hard way” has run it’s course. Need an overhaul next year. Build properly around Bam. Enough of these undersized 4’s. Get guys who can bang, rebound, set screens, and have some semblance of height to deter shots. Enough propping players like Highsmith just because he can play defense but can’t take anyone off the dribble, overmatched versus bigger players, and lacks a real offensive game to be a threat playing the 2/3 spot. Get bigger and athletic in the front court. Keep Kevin Love around in the UD break in case of emergency role.
