Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[Nebula1]

Mayo is really upping his value. Last 5 games...

15pts/3reb/3asst 57%FG/61% 3pt

Sell, Sell, Sell!



With Marshall out, Mayo is going to get a lot of PT now. More so than previously.

Still need somebody on the other side of that orange juice futures contract.

[Treebeard]

Mayo is really upping his value. Last 5 games...

15pts/3reb/3asst 57%FG/61% 3pt

Sell, Sell, Sell!



With Marshall out, Mayo is going to get a lot of PT now. More so than previously.

Still need somebody on the other side of that orange juice futures contract.

Hammond & Morway really need to channel their inner Louis Winthrope III & Billy Ray Valentine right now!

[El Duderino]

Just a hunch, but I think Middleton gets underpaid this summer. He's not putting up a high volume amount of shots and his box score stats look underwhelming. I think he gets paid somewhere along the lines of what Meeks and McRoberts got, between $5.5-$6.5 million per over 4 years.

I'd be pretty happy to get him on that kind of deal.

I hope so, but I have my doubts. I see a Meeks like deal being the minimum of what he gets offered. Meeks was 4 years older and only had one season of shooting above 40% from three for his career. Middleton is 23 and is working on back-to-back seasons of +40% 3-pt shooting. Not to mention he has good size, can play both wing positions, and has good defensive potential.

Shooters get paid and I don't think that kind of efficiency will go unnoticed. I can feasibly see a team offering him 3-yrs $24 mil in anticipation of the rising cap, and that'd be a little too pricey for my tastes.

I don't know if Middleton gets offered 8 million per, but i certainly could see it. He has fabulous shooting mechanics and it wouldn't surprise me going forward if he became roughly a 45 percent three point shooter. Mix in his size to play both SG/SF, he'll likely have a number of suitors.

[Treebeard]

I'd like to retain Middleton if possible. When he plays within his skill set, he's a big help. He still needs to cut down on the ticky-tacky fouls, but that should be manageable.

[HurricaneKid]

I think guys are wildly high on Kanter. He is an awful interior defender. Guys who can't defend and can't stretch defenses are a dime a dozen. Its pretty clear he is on his way out and Utah is going to move forward with a Gobert/Favors front line.

And I just don't want the guy.

[ReasonablySober]

Just a hunch, but I think Middleton gets underpaid this summer. He's not putting up a high volume amount of shots and his box score stats look underwhelming. I think he gets paid somewhere along the lines of what Meeks and McRoberts got, between $5.5-$6.5 million per over 4 years.

I'd be pretty happy to get him on that kind of deal.

I hope so, but I have my doubts. I see a Meeks like deal being the minimum of what he gets offered. Meeks was 4 years older and only had one season of shooting above 40% from three for his career. Middleton is 23 and is working on back-to-back seasons of +40% 3-pt shooting. Not to mention he has good size, can play both wing positions, and has good defensive potential.

Shooters get paid and I don't think that kind of efficiency will go unnoticed. I can feasibly see a team offering him 3-yrs $24 mil in anticipation of the rising cap, and that'd be a little too pricey for my tastes.

I don't know if Middleton gets offered 8 million per, but i certainly could see it. He has fabulous shooting mechanics and it wouldn't surprise me going forward if he became roughly a 45 percent three point shooter. Mix in his size to play both SG/SF, he'll likely have a number of suitors.

I'd probably give him $8/per too, hopefully in a four year deal.

[M-C-G]

Middleton has what may be an elite skill in terms of 3 pt shooting, and scoring efficiently...Defense has been solid, same size as Korver but 23 years old. Someone is going to pay for that.

3/24 is probably a very fair contract.

[KDBG]

I'd be surprised if most Jazz fans were on board with that deal...I'd probably be willing to add a first on our side if it meant Exum was coming back in the deal.

I would too. I'm probably the only Jazz fan that would do this. But I don't follow the status quo, I use my own observations. I just see an improving Jazz team that's played pretty much .500 ball since late December. It's more than likely we end up picking anywhere from 8-11. And trading Burke and Kanter is addition by subtraction imo. You would all agree if you watched most of the Jazz games. Both dudes are ball stoppers, and Burke is as much of an inefficient chucker as Jennings was for you guys. So more than likely it's two scorers who will probably spend most of their career coming off the bench, and a late lotto pick (late lotto picks statistically rarely end up anything more than a bench rotation guy) for a guy in Knight who's a borderline all-star this year, regardless of what position you want to call him, and one of the best 3 point shooting 2s in Middleton. And we can match any offer in the summer for both of them. So if you really observe it like I am, would we REALLY be giving up that much? In my eyes, the Jazz give up very little for a chance to fill two huge mother f***ing gaping holes. I can't begin to tell you how atrocious both guard spots are for the Jazz. Plus, none of our guards are shooting over 31% from three. Alec Burks was the only one, but he's injured for season.

[NATIVE SON]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

[paulpressey25]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

OJ is just inconsistent. He'll have some great games but then ones where he's sleepwalking a bit or his shot isn't falling.

I haven't backed this up with stats, but my impression is that if his first few shots don't fall, he then starts to tune out and play less aggressively on both ends. But if those first couple shots do fall, he then gets a burst of energy and plays pretty well.

[M-C-G]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

Actually not much wrong with him at all right now...He is playing pretty well recently after struggling to find his shot in the starting line up.

He has also been pretty good creating for others, and Kidd just mentioned that he might soak up some of the PG minutes with Marshall getting hurt.

I don't think I've ever had an opinion change so strongly from one year to the next. He's been a pleasure this year, after being a toxic turd last year. Complete 180

[NATIVE SON]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

OJ is just inconsistent. He'll have some great games but then ones where he's sleepwalking a bit or his shot isn't falling.

I haven't backed this up with stats, but my impression is that if his first few shots don't fall, he then starts to tune out and play less aggressively on both ends. But if those first couple shots do fall, he then gets a burst of energy and plays pretty well.

So do you guyz think a change of scenery back to L.A. would help reinvigorate or motivate him? How would a J.Lin and J. Hill for him 420 (Sanders) and a 2nd work for you guys? Is Sanders that far gone? I know we've worked with L.O and Metta before and even D.Rodman.

[M-C-G]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

OJ is just inconsistent. He'll have some great games but then ones where he's sleepwalking a bit or his shot isn't falling.

I haven't backed this up with stats, but my impression is that if his first few shots don't fall, he then starts to tune out and play less aggressively on both ends. But if those first couple shots do fall, he then gets a burst of energy and plays pretty well.

So do you guyz think a change of scenery back to L.A. would help reinvigorate or motivate him? How would a J.Lin and J. Hill for him 420 (Sanders) and a 2nd work for you guys? Is Sanders that far gone? I know we've worked with L.O and Metta before and even D.Rodman.

It's a ballsy trade for someone to take on Sanders at the moment. I feel like every time I say his value has bottomed out, he goes out and does something else.

I'd probably do a deal like that, and look to move Ersan as well for an expiring so I can at least make a ridiculous offers on Butler.

[NATIVE SON]

OJ is just inconsistent. He'll have some great games but then ones where he's sleepwalking a bit or his shot isn't falling.

I haven't backed this up with stats, but my impression is that if his first few shots don't fall, he then starts to tune out and play less aggressively on both ends. But if those first couple shots do fall, he then gets a burst of energy and plays pretty well.

So do you guyz think a change of scenery back to L.A. would help reinvigorate or motivate him? How would a J.Lin and J. Hill for him 420 (Sanders) and a 2nd work for you guys? Is Sanders that far gone? I know we've worked with L.O and Metta before and even D.Rodman.

It's a ballsy trade for someone to take on Sanders at the moment. I feel like every time I say his value has bottomed out, he goes out and does something else.

I'd probably do a deal like that, and look to move Ersan as well for an expiring so I can at least make a ridiculous offers on Butler.

Yeah....really ballsy considering the length of his contract......It would help in our efforts to get that top 5 pick though. Additionally, if we can get him to turn it around it would be high reward too, swing for the fences. For you guys it would allow you to compete for the playoffs this year and add to your international flavor with Lin.

[Giannis Parker]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

OJ is just inconsistent. He'll have some great games but then ones where he's sleepwalking a bit or his shot isn't falling.

I haven't backed this up with stats, but my impression is that if his first few shots don't fall, he then starts to tune out and play less aggressively on both ends. But if those first couple shots do fall, he then gets a burst of energy and plays pretty well.

So do you guyz think a change of scenery back to L.A. would help reinvigorate or motivate him? How would a J.Lin and J. Hill for him 420 (Sanders) and a 2nd work for you guys? Is Sanders that far gone? I know we've worked with L.O and Metta before and even D.Rodman.

I would do Mayo, Sanders and a 2nd rounder for Lin and Hill personally.

[paulpressey25]

Yeah....really ballsy considering the length of his contract......It would help in our efforts to get that top 5 pick though. Additionally, if we can get him to turn it around it would be high reward too, swing for the fences. For you guys it would allow you to compete for the playoffs this year and add to your international flavor with Lin.

I think every guy on here would deal Sanders and Mayo for Lin and Hill.

Our two guys have a lot more talent than your two guys. But our two guys are much bigger performance risks and are owed a lot more money. That deal gives us a fresh start. I can't see the Lakers giving up FA cap space this summer for Sanders and Mayo.

[JimmyTheKid]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

OJ is just inconsistent. He'll have some great games but then ones where he's sleepwalking a bit or his shot isn't falling.

I haven't backed this up with stats, but my impression is that if his first few shots don't fall, he then starts to tune out and play less aggressively on both ends. But if those first couple shots do fall, he then gets a burst of energy and plays pretty well.

So do you guyz think a change of scenery back to L.A. would help reinvigorate or motivate him? How would a J.Lin and J. Hill for him 420 (Sanders) and a 2nd work for you guys? Is Sanders that far gone? I know we've worked with L.O and Metta before and even D.Rodman.

Sign me up. I doubt you'd find too many here that would turn down Hill/Lin/2nd for Sanders/Mayo.

[NATIVE SON]

Yeah....really ballsy considering the length of his contract......It would help in our efforts to get that top 5 pick though. Additionally, if we can get him to turn it around it would be high reward too, swing for the fences. For you guys it would allow you to compete for the playoffs this year and add to your international flavor with Lin.

I think every guy on here would deal Sanders and Mayo for Lin and Hill.

Our two guys have a lot more talent than your two guys. But our two guys are much bigger performance risks and are owed a lot more money. That deal gives us a fresh start. I can't see the Lakers giving up FA cap space this summer for Sanders and Mayo.

Yeah I know. Lakers fans would do anything to get rid of the headache that is J.Lin and his Legion of fans. Your fans would curse us to high hell after about 1 month....It would go down as a KAJ type trade. LOL.

If we get the 2 picks (our top5 and Hou.1st) this summer we could possibly still sign a top tier FA. I haven't bothered to do the math on how much cap space we'd have leftover.

[NATIVE SON]

OJ is just inconsistent. He'll have some great games but then ones where he's sleepwalking a bit or his shot isn't falling.

I haven't backed this up with stats, but my impression is that if his first few shots don't fall, he then starts to tune out and play less aggressively on both ends. But if those first couple shots do fall, he then gets a burst of energy and plays pretty well.

So do you guyz think a change of scenery back to L.A. would help reinvigorate or motivate him? How would a J.Lin and J. Hill for him 420 (Sanders) and a 2nd work for you guys? Is Sanders that far gone? I know we've worked with L.O and Metta before and even D.Rodman.

We'd be asking your team for the second due to the High risk (pun intended) of Sanders.....

Sign me up. I doubt you'd find too many here that would turn down Hill/Lin/2nd for Sanders/Mayo.

[NATIVE SON]

Lakers Fan again. What's the problem with O.J......Do you guyz think he could play a combo PG alongside Kobus? He seems to have the same pace.

Actually not much wrong with him at all right now...He is playing pretty well recently after struggling to find his shot in the starting line up.

He has also been pretty good creating for others, and Kidd just mentioned that he might soak up some of the PG minutes with Marshall getting hurt.

I don't think I've ever had an opinion change so strongly from one year to the next. He's been a pleasure this year, after being a toxic turd last year. Complete 180

How was O.J toxic last year? Out of shape? disenfranchised? I've been checking his stats this season and he has been doing pretty well.