Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone and maybe Jennings (update pg131)

JayMKE · Post #2251 » by **JayMKE** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:16 am

maybe we could get a 2013 pick out of Orlando, they'll probably suck when Dwight leaves

paul · Post #2252 » by **paul** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:16 am

blkout wrote:C: Greg Oden
PF: Josh Smith
SF: Courtney Lee
SG: Monta Ellis
PG: Jonny Flynn

Major fail not starting Jodie Meeks. Monta would back him up.

Baddy Chuck · Post #2253 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:17 am

paul wrote:And our winning percentage with Bogut was vastly superior to our winning percentage without.

And we've just turned the corner into pretty much the softest schedule imaginable. I can already see in bold red font the "LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER WE ARE WITHOUT BOGUT HOLDING US BACK" posts when we win 15 of our next 20 against the dregs of the competition.

Meh, we're a 7th-8th seed with him, and we're an 8th seed without him IMO.

Can't argue with the second part though, they're all meaningless wins anyways.

Post #2254 » by **blkout** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:17 am

paul wrote:
blkout wrote:C: Greg Oden
PF: Josh Smith
SF: Courtney Lee
SG: Monta Ellis
PG: Jonny Flynn

Major fail not starting Jodie Meeks. Monta would back him up.

This is a good point. Probably have to back up Green too unless he can play SF.

Nebula1 · Post #2255 » by **Nebula1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:17 am

JayMKE wrote:maybe we could get a 2013 pick out of Orlando, they'll probably suck when Dwight leaves

They probably want that pick in case, but maybe we can get the 2012 pick. I like getting Orton off their roster as well if possible.

Baddy Chuck · Post #2256 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:18 am

paul wrote:
blkout wrote:C: Greg Oden
PF: Josh Smith
SF: Courtney Lee
SG: Monta Ellis
PG: Jonny Flynn

Major fail not starting Jodie Meeks. Monta would back him up.

THE REAL MAN CHILD

Oden
Smith
Green
Meeks
Flynn

We would win 5 games but man would they be fun.

xTitan · Post #2257 » by **xTitan** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:19 am

Howard is not staying in Orlando so none of this probably matters.

worthlessBucks · Post #2258 » by **worthlessBucks** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:20 am

emunney wrote:I wonder if we could get Utah in to grab Curry for one of their bigs.

Solid idea. If it is Curry as we're all speculating, surely there is a market for him as an asset that reduces the injury risk we take by dealing Bogut for potentially other injured stuff. Even 1 of their lottery picks is a solid return if we can't pry Favors or Kanter. Before someone suggests Jennings to Utah, I've said it before but I will never believe that to be a good market match for Brad, even if it is closer to his home of LA.

Do we consider that the 3 way GS/MIL/ORL might not having anything to do with Monta Ellis at all? What if it is just Jax dangling? I just don't see anything from Orlando that makes sense to us in a 3 way with Bogut and Ellis involved.

Nebula1 · Post #2259 » by **Nebula1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:21 am

I hope our haul is: Biedrins/Thompson/Udoh/Wright/Orton/ORL 2012 1st.

Have to say there is alot of tank potential for Milwaukee if the deal is with GSW and ORL.

paul · Post #2260 » by **paul** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:22 am

Nebula1 wrote:I hope our haul is: Biedrins/Thompson/Udoh/Wright/Orton/ORL 2012 1st.

Have to say there is alot of tank potential for Milwaukee if the deal is with GSW and ORL.

Because the return sucks you mean?

worthlessBucks · Post #2261 » by **worthlessBucks** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:23 am

paul wrote:
blkout wrote:C: Greg Oden
PF: Josh Smith
SF: Courtney Lee
SG: Monta Ellis
PG: Jonny Flynn

Major fail not starting Jodie Meeks. Monta would back him up.

You guys laugh, but it has to be painful for MBBOT because almost all those guys have links to the Bucks. So close MBBOT. Smith drafted with our pick, Lee and Ellis rumored Bogut pieces, Flynn was liked a lot by our management and reportedly higher than Jennings on our board, Oden would have been our pick had we won that year, Meeks was ours, etc.

Baddy Chuck · Post #2262 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:23 am

Neb, I'm all for the tank but you're **** crazy.

MilBucksBackOnTop06 · Post #2263 » by **MilBucksBackOnTop06** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:23 am

SheedsWeed wrote:You never know what a GM will do, but how can any of you see Raptors trading their first round pick for Brandon? Aren't they in top five territory? Maybe they would do it if it was in the early teens...maybe...but c'mon...Top 5 pick for Brandon? Not realistic at all.

Delusional. YES THEY WOULD DO IT.

Jonas is their lottery pick. Come on now...use the noggin. Of course they would give a lottery pick up for Jennings. Espeically if we took Calderon! Wake up fans. That would be a deal they would do.

What do need moston taht team? A young PG who can blend with Derozan and Amir. Ding ding ding! I said this weeks ago. Bargnani, Jonas, DeRozan, Amir and Jennings....helloooo! That is a hell of a core.

They have enough lottery guys there. It might be top 3 protected but I bet you that they would trade Jennings for a lottery pick.

I actually would wait to trade Jennings in the Summer for the Raptors pick and have them draft someone for us and move Bogut now, but they might do just the opposite and trade .

Jennings value is worth a lottery pick. The only question would be whether it isprotected or unprotected. Absolutely they woulod if only to make Derozan happy and have two controled years.

What are you all talking about? You all think Bogut can get you a lottery pick and Jennings can't? Ha ha ha...please. Jennings can get you a lottery pick. And to the Toronto fan who says this short term nonsense....you don't know your team.

I guarantee you Colangelo would deal that pick for Jennings. There is no player in the lottery that can help them more then Jennings can for what they need. You all overestimate lottery picks.

Jonas is there lottery pick next year...they can sacrifice this one for an up and coming Superstar in Jennings with the UnderAmour market and playing with his boyhood buddies. You all need to learn about the logistics of trades.

You act like lottery picks are gold. Some are...but that team needs a proven young stud player and regardless to what you think Jennings is only 22 with upside and borderline All Star! He and Demar would set that team off and put fans in the seats!

A total no-brainer for Toronto...imo. It would save Colangelo's job. That jennings deal for a pick and maybe a filler and player would be a job saver.

The only reason I don't rock this deal loudlhy is that I don't like Calderon...and I guarantee Hammond does and would take him...But Toronto would be a perfect place and market for Jennings. He even said it...

Baddy Chuck · Post #2264 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:27 am

For people who don't want to read that essay, "The Raptors would take Jennings for a lottery pick. I'm right, you're wrong."

Nebula1 · Post #2265 » by **Nebula1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:27 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Neb, I'm all for the tank but you're **** crazy.

How so? Thompson is good, we lock in for a 2012 tank and 2013 tank.

That is the whole damn point. If it's getting torn down, go for the #1 pick. That's what matters most.

Getting $.50 on the dollar for Bogut is fine if you're all in on the tank.

paul · Post #2266 » by **paul** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:27 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Neb, I'm all for the tank but you're **** crazy.

Neb just rides the uber-emotion. He gets it in his head that we have to tank, SO WE HAVE TO TANK. He gets it in his head that it's Brandon or Bogut, SO BOGUT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GO. He gets it in his head that Dunleavy is hurting the tank, SO I F'ING HATE JR.

You get the idea.

icat2000 · Post #2267 » by **icat2000** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:28 am

Nebula1 wrote:I hope our haul is: Biedrins/Thompson/Udoh/Wright/Orton/ORL 2012 1st.

Have to say there is alot of tank potential for Milwaukee if the deal is with GSW and ORL.

Too late for tanking.

I've been saying for weeks there are some serious team tankers this season. Bucks don't stand a chance.

icat2000 · Post #2268 » by **icat2000** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:29 am

paul wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Neb, I'm all for the tank but you're **** crazy.

Neb just rides the uber-emotion. He gets it in his head that we have to tank, SO WE HAVE TO TANK. He gets it in his head that it's Brandon or Bogut, SO BOGUT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GO. He gets it in his head that Dunleavy is hurting the tank, SO I F'ING HATE JR.

You get the idea.

But Jennings can do no wrong :lol:

skones · Post #2269 » by **skones** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:29 am

paul wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Neb, I'm all for the tank but you're **** crazy.

Neb just rides the uber-emotion. He gets it in his head that we have to tank, SO WE HAVE TO TANK. He gets it in his head that it's Brandon or Bogut, SO BOGUT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO GO. He gets it in his head that Dunleavy is hurting the tank, SO I F'ING HATE JR.

You get the idea.

Neb's stance on Sessions will always be a top hit for me.

Baddy Chuck · Post #2270 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:30 am

icat2000 wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:I hope our haul is: Biedrins/Thompson/Udoh/Wright/Orton/ORL 2012 1st.

Have to say there is alot of tank potential for Milwaukee if the deal is with GSW and ORL.

Too late for tanking.

I've been saying for weeks there are some serious team tankers this season. Bucks don't stand a chance.

We only have to beat out one team to get in the top 10, we really don't need to do a serious tank.