Trades for the Bucks to blow it up

eagle13 · Post #101 » by **eagle13** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:25 pm

I'd offer BJ Ersan & 1st (top 5 protected) for Rondo & Wilcox. NO Henson. He's going to become somewhere between very good to an AllStar. Henson-Sanders is the best thing the Bucks got going. That duo gives me hope!

Then Ellis Dalembert Daniels - ATL - Korver Morrow DHarris

Rondo / Udrih / HarrisD
Morrow / Korver / Lamb
Moute / Dunleavy / HarrisT
Henson / Wilcox / Gooden
Sanders / Udoh / Pryzbilla

expiring = DHarris Udrih Dunleavy Morrow Korver Wilcox Pryzbilla
leaving signed for 2013-14 =

Rondo /
xxxxx / Lamb /
Moute / HarrisT
Henson / Gooden
Sanders / Udoh

Get starting SG from FA
add backup PG & PF

raferfenix · Post #102 » by **raferfenix** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:19 am

How about this:

Bucks trade: Jennings, Moute, Udoh
Celtics trade: Rondo

Our use for either Moute or Udoh decreases if we have a non-shooter like Rondo at PG.

And if it comes down to it -- I just don't see us passing on a star-level talent like Rondo because of a very good role player.

Baddy Chuck · Post #103 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:28 am

I think you are really underestimating how much worse they'd be swapping Rondo for Jennings.

raysbookclub · Post #104 » by **raysbookclub** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:10 am

staying with the celtics but not rondo, would the bucks be interested in getting pierce?

blazza18 · Post #105 » by **blazza18** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:13 am

IMO hell no to Pierce. Celtics would be asking for to much.

AussieBuck · Post #106 » by **AussieBuck** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:32 am

Beno for Jordan Crawford and Ariza + something
Dunleavy for Casspi
Luc for Travis Outlaw and a future 1st.

Jennings/Ellis
Ellis/Crawford
Ariza/Casspi
Ersan/Outlaw
Sanders/Udoh

We are currently at about 102 offensive rating and 103.5 defensive rating. If coached right we'd drop to about 98/105 which would get us around 14 more wins and 32 total.

-Kees- · Post #107 » by **-Kees-** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:32 am

AussieBuck wrote:Beno for Jordan Crawford and Ariza + something
Dunleavy for Casspi
Luc for Travis Outlaw and a future 1st.

Jennings/Ellis
Ellis/Crawford
Ariza/Casspi
Ersan/Outlaw
Sanders/Udoh

We are currently at about 102 offensive rating and 103.5 defensive rating. If coached right we'd drop to about 98/105 which would get us around 14 more wins and 32 total.

I actually like those a lot. That's the type of trades I feel like we should be jumping on. Ariza kinda fell out of the rotation out in WAS, and they need a PG more than anyone. So we can get a half decent SG prospect. Would the Cavs even want Dunleavy though? Seems like they are on the tank train too.

Rockmaninoff · Post #108 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:35 am

Ellis
for
Channing Frye/Michael Beasley/1st (Phoenix or if they balk, the more favorable of Lakers or Minnesota)

Jennings
for
Jae Crowder/1st

Udrih
for
Mo Williams/1st

Ilyasova
for
Kris Humphries/1st

Dunleavy
for
Derrick Williams

deneem4 · Post #109 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:03 pm

How would you guys feel about this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=convpze

Evans add size along to Jennings with better defense and less wild shooting like ellis
Salmons and ariza are both capable starting sf's salmons shooter ariza defensive
Crawford is like a mini monta off the bench

Gives the bucks perm defense and depth

coolhandluke121 · Post #110 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:14 pm

deneem4 wrote:How would you guys feel about this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=convpze

I literally wouldn't trade Ellis for that, much less Beno and MDJ. Actually, I wouldn't even trade Przybilla for that. Too much fail coming back this way.

ETA: I would probably trade Dalembert for Salmons though. He's playing well. But I want no part of all that other trash, and I only want Salmons because the Bucks desperately need a SG who can shoot.

jtrinaldi · Post #111 » by **jtrinaldi** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:48 pm

deneem4 wrote:How would you guys feel about this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=convpze

Evans add size along to Jennings with better defense and less wild shooting like ellis
Salmons and ariza are both capable starting sf's salmons shooter ariza defensive
Crawford is like a mini monta off the bench

Gives the bucks perm defense and depth

I assume you are a Wizards fan??? Just a guess....

VooDoo7 · Post #112 » by **VooDoo7** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:12 pm

SAC gets hosed in that.

coolhandluke121 · Post #113 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:22 pm

Jennings
Pierce
LRMAM
Henson
Sanders

What would it take to get Pierce?

Post #114 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:27 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:
What would it take to get Pierce?

2013 first, Henson and Tobias. And then Dalembert as the expiring to match salaries. But they consider that only if they are out of the playoff picture a month from now.

deneem4 · Post #115 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:44 pm

jtrinaldi wrote:
deneem4 wrote:How would you guys feel about this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=convpze

Evans add size along to Jennings with better defense and less wild shooting like ellis
Salmons and ariza are both capable starting sf's salmons shooter ariza defensive
Crawford is like a mini monta off the bench

Gives the bucks perm defense and depth

I assume you are a Wizards fan??? Just a guess....

Would this balance the bias out???
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cxuzqk9
Grizzlies get a 2nd rd and kings get a 2nd rd..both from wizards

Sac need defense at guard... evans have to go for the younger guards to have purpose..allen and zach are great leaders and can really help shape theyre young core
and dmc is trying to get booted that vincr foul was sooo planned

Post #116 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:02 pm

deneem4 wrote:Would this balance the bias out???

I find trades put forth by posters get more commentary if:

a) The trade involves five players or less. There have been only 11 trades in NBA history involving more than 8 players. This link is good.

http://www.nba.com/history/largest_trades_030819.html

b) There are only two teams or at worst three teams involved. And the third team is usually only in the deal for one player in order to satisfy salary requirements.

deneem4 · Post #117 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:34 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Would this balance the bias out???

I find trades put forth by posters get more commentary if:

a) The trade involves five players or less. There have been only 11 trades in NBA history involving more than 8 players. This link is good.

http://www.nba.com/history/largest_trades_030819.html

b) There are only two teams or at worst three teams involved. And the third team is usually only in the deal for one player in order to satisfy salary requirements.

I thought this was for the bucks to blow it up but here is it laid out

Wiz in: Gay/Cousins...self explanatory
Wiz out Nene/Crawford/Seraphin/Webster/Martin
Grizz in: Ellis/Nene/Salmons/Martin......stud sg added...wing shooter and good replacements for gay and zach...
Grizz out: Gay/Allen/Randolph
Bucks in: Crawford/Seraphin/Evans....Bench scorer...post up big man.. perfect guard nxt to jennings better fit
Bucks Out: Ellis
Kings In: Randolph/Allen/Webster/2nd Rd from Wizards...Vet big man...LEADERSHIP...defense at guard...gives younger players minutes with evans gone
Kings Out: Cousins/Salmons/Evans

giraldo5 · Post #118 » by **giraldo5** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:27 pm

deneem4 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Would this balance the bias out???

I find trades put forth by posters get more commentary if:

a) The trade involves five players or less. There have been only 11 trades in NBA history involving more than 8 players. This link is good.

http://www.nba.com/history/largest_trades_030819.html

b) There are only two teams or at worst three teams involved. And the third team is usually only in the deal for one player in order to satisfy salary requirements.

I thought this was for the bucks to blow it up but here is it laid out

Wiz in: Gay/Cousins...self explanatory
Wiz out Nene/Crawford/Seraphin/Webster/Martin
Grizz in: Ellis/Nene/Salmons/Martin......stud sg added...wing shooter and good replacements for gay and zach...
Grizz out: Gay/Allen/Randolph
Bucks in: Crawford/Seraphin/Evans....Bench scorer...post up big man.. perfect guard nxt to jennings better fit
Bucks Out: Ellis
Kings In: Randolph/Allen/Webster/2nd Rd from Wizards...Vet big man...LEADERSHIP...defense at guard...gives younger players minutes with evans gone
Kings Out: Cousins/Salmons/Evans

Did Bradley Beal change his last name to Webster? If so then yeah looks fair

deneem4 · Post #119 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:02 pm

This is way more than enough for the kings...the kings have enough guards and tony Allen would do great paired with any of them...webster has been playing great and is an upgrade over salmons...zach Randolph is the leader the kings need an is also good to pair with the younger forwards....sac doesnt have a bad team jus extremely mis guided...evans was going to leave anyway and demarcus dont want to stay...the 2nd rd pick is the topping...beal and Thornton wouldn't get along anyway

Post #120 » by **roc** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:17 pm

jtrinaldi wrote:
deneem4 wrote:How would you guys feel about this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=convpze

Evans add size along to Jennings with better defense and less wild shooting like ellis
Salmons and ariza are both capable starting sf's salmons shooter ariza defensive
Crawford is like a mini monta off the bench

Gives the bucks perm defense and depth

I assume you are a Wizards fan??? Just a guess....

exactly what I was assuming and then verified via search of user posts.

WAS make out like bandits so it was mos def obvious enough of course.