Kohl and Hammond Working on Extension

[KG_Wolves]

Monta Ellis for Rudy Gay?

From a Twolves fan perspective you guys always hate on being a "treadmill team" but thats got to be better than being a top 5 lottery team for a half a decade where your team drafts busts 90 percent of the time..

[LUKE23]

Monta Ellis for Rudy Gay?

From a Twolves fan perspective you guys always hate on being a "treadmill team" but thats got to be better than being a top 5 lottery team for a half a decade where your team drafts busts 90 percent of the time..

Not really. The Wolves have drafted overall terribly under Kahn and still boast a better young core than the Bucks, in addition to being better now.

[AussieBuck]

I don't get the people that blame Skiles for the coaching AND for the players that were brought in. I wonder what those people feel Hammond does all day? Does he also get Sklies his coffee in the morning?

Some people just have to rationalise however they can.

[blazza18]

Seems like this extension will mean nothing and just keep us on the path of the journey to the 8th seed. I'd be all for Hammond getting an extension if he was able to rebuild the roster. But after what he said today in the press conference it looks unlikely to happen. Lets just hope the team struggles in the next few weeks and it might force his hand.


I don't think any major changes happen with Kohl still around.

[AussieBuck]

This is about the most depressing news since we dropped to 6th in the Oden/Durant draft.

[Run-MKE 311]

I am neutral on this, nobody else that is out there really jumps to my mind.

This is a crucial next 12-18 months for this entire organization, should be interesting to watch.

[InsideOut]

I don't get the people that blame Skiles for the coaching AND for the players that were brought in. I wonder what those people feel Hammond does all day? Does he also get Sklies his coffee in the morning?

It would be interesting to know just how much influence Skiles had on various trades and signings since he took the job with Hammond?

Did he have influence on just some of the moves or on all of them? If say Skiles only had influence on certain moves, which ones were they? Was he against some of the moves and if so, which ones?

What we do know is that Skiles was clearly "win now" in his mindset, and he had "his" guys whom he thought best contributed to that. I don't think it's a coincidence that he had guys like Malik Allen and Drew Gooden on his roster multiple times.

Didn't he have to have this mindset because the owner told both the GM and Skiles to win now?

If Skiles was both coaching the team AND telling Hammond how to do his job it depresses me even more that Hammond could get an extension. That would mean Hammond is even more useless than I thought he was. If Hammond is still here next year I will assume it is because Kohl could get him cheap to be his yes man.

If Hammond was so good and so well thought of around the league there is no way he takes a cheap job with the Bucks being Kohl's yes man over taking a job with another organization. That just makes no sense to me. Think about that. Hammond is a great GM and well respected around the league but he takes a minimum wage GM job with the Bucks?! I'm not buying that. What I will buy is that people think he is a nice guy and like him.

[paulpressey25]

This is about the most depressing news since we dropped to 6th in the Oden/Durant draft.

I think that night was worse for me personally.

If we fired Hammond, Kohl would still be running things. Had we finished second in that lotto, we'd have Durant and be a 50-win team right now.

That lotto was our one chance to escape Kohl's mediocrity.

[BigDoggyStyle]

b) How hard is the lack of ticket revenue hitting Kohl? The attendance has now reached Atlanta Hawks levels from years past. The entire upper deck is empty and the lower deck only 2/3rd's full. People just aren't coming to games even with a "16-16" competitive 8th seed team.

Not nearly as bad as you'd think. Revenue sharing ended up being a lot better than anticipated.

Is there any indication of how Hammond getting an extension will affect the potential for trades? I would think that trades are more likely given that he's returning, and that they wouldn't have to be win-now type deals. Still hoping for an Ellis trade.

[jakecronus8]

This is about the most depressing news since we dropped to 6th in the Oden/Durant draft.

I think that night was worse for me personally.

If we fired Hammond, Kohl would still be running things. Had we finished second in that lotto, we'd have Durant and be a 50-win team right now.

That lotto was our one chance to escape Kohl's mediocrity.

Yep. That was the worst sports day of my life. I was destroyed. My chest hurts thinking about it.

[europa]

I still feel the kick in the nuts Stern delivered that night.

Bogut-Horford. What might've been. What should've been.

[ReddWing]

Count me in on the group of Hammond supporters. I realize that he has made mistakes but I trust in him to rebuild this team. Fear the Deer and Glass Redd/Glass Bogut crapped on the last few years. We don't trade for or sign Salmons if our well paid franchise SG would have stayed healthy. We probably don't trade for Jax without Salmons contract. The unexpected excitement of FTD instantly made us a contender. That led to signing Gooden/Salmons and bringing in Maggette---which wasn't that bad of a move at the time. Gooden was a mistake but I have to believe that Kohl had a hand in that. There was alot of buzz in the city after the FTD run and they wanted to keep it going. And then Bogut was hurt the next few years to the present day. I am certain we are a playoff team with a healthy Bogut last year and perhaps the year before that. If he stays healthy, no Monta and no Dalembert. Trading Bogut for Monta was a pure Kohl move to get a playoff spot.

I trust Hammond because he has drafted well. LRMAM, Jennings, Meeks, Sanders, Leuer, Tobes, and Henson were all solid picks. He has one bust. Give this guy another shot in the lottery because there is only so much he can do drafting in the teens.

[KidA24]

The only GM's I can see that have been with their teams greater than five years, and stayed after being sub .500 after five years are:

Petrie (Kings)
Colangelo (Raptors)
Grunfeld (Wizards)

Solid company.

Finally getting to the thread, if it's mentioned after this I apologize, but you missed Presti, who was 195-199 after 5 years as Thunder GM.

I'm not shocked at all by this move, I just wish we had some semblance of an idea as to where the franchise was headed. After hearing Woeful this morning saying how "Skiles had huge input on who was brought in, including Magette and Stephen Jackson" I don't know what to think.

[BUCKnation]

I still feel the kick in the nuts Stern delivered that night.

Bogut-Horford. What might've been. What should've been.

[Nebula1]

This is about the most depressing news since we dropped to 6th in the Oden/Durant draft.

I'll never forget that night.

[REDDzone]

Just saw this now. Came to post it here, and lo and behold you dudes have a 10 page thread already. Classic.

The bad news is Hammond may be extended, the good news is I get to continue saving all that money I would normally have spent on Bucks games.

Be Mediocrity!

[trwi7]

The best news is I don't have to spend 30 seconds changing the name of my twitter account.

[trwi7]

Listening to Hammond speak reminds me of Daffy Duck or some other cartoon character. I can just picture him bouncing off the walls.

Reminds me of Porky Pig. Ba-dee, ba-dee, ba-dee that's all folks.

[Sigra]

Interesting.

Not really.

As predictable as it can be. Always the only logical thing to do. One of the best GMs in NBA. You keep him offcourse.

[Sigra]

This is about the most depressing news since we dropped to 6th in the Oden/Durant draft.

What a great day for me. Reading delusional haters cry?

There are some things money can't buy. For everything else there's MasterCard.