Are the Bucks the worst run team? (Post trade vent thread)

jtrinaldi · Post #211 » by **jtrinaldi** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:23 am

If you thought today was bad, wait until the Bucks offer Monta the Max

Post #212 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:33 am

DrugBust wrote:But the Bucks turned a C- asset into B.

I agree with this. I'm not a guy who thinks we gave away our future in Tobias Harris.

If Redick calms Baddy down like Ridnour did, this could pay off.

RealAbstract · Post #213 » by **RealAbstract** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:46 am

Rumor is Bucks didn't do the Josh Smith deal because it's Monta Ellis Bobblehead Night this Saturday.

sdn40 · Post #214 » by **sdn40** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:52 am

Just wondering two things.

If we know Ellis sucks, and every important stat says Ellis sucks, wouldn't you think that every NBA GM knows Ellis sucks ? People act as if Ellis is a hot commodity. Did anyone ever think the obvious, the fact that no one wants Ellis therefore you can't formulate a trade for Ellis ? Its the same across every sport. Fans think that you can trade garbage away for some sort of value as if other teams don't know what we know.

This isn't the 1980's. Tanking in this era of watered down college basketball is just as much a crapshoot as a risky trade. Joe Alexander was taken 8th overall. The chances of a lottery bust are higher than ever and only going to get worse.

I'm not saying I am in favor of the organization, if anything I would say the NBA is broken and won't soon be fixed.

europa · Post #215 » by **europa** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:56 am

sdn40 wrote:People act as if Ellis is a hot commodity.

I've long been skeptical of Ellis' trade value. We can't be the only ones who realize how bad this guy is.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #216 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:59 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
DrugBust wrote:But the Bucks turned a C- asset into B.

I agree with this. I'm not a guy who thinks we gave away our future in Tobias Harris.

If Redick calms Baddy down like Ridnour did, this could pay off.

This is an interesting point. It's safe to say that Redick is the best real PG Baddy is going to play next to besides Incredible Hulk Salmons for two months as a rookie right?

paul · Post #217 » by **paul** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:13 am

Nah, we rock.

Nebula1 · Post #218 » by **Nebula1** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:15 am

paul wrote:Nah, we rock.

good enough for me

paul · Post #219 » by **paul** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:16 am

DrugBust wrote:
The_Answer wrote:It may not have been the ideal trade and while you still have Ellis, you guys are significantly underrating the impact JJ Redick has on a basketball game. He's instantly the smartest player you have on the floor, and if there's virtually any offensive system in place it'll flourish with him in the game.

He's the ideal wing player to pair with Jennings.

I'm looking forward to watching him play.

As am I.

Also, this trade eats ass.

Nebula1 · Post #220 » by **Nebula1** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:17 am

Just an aside: BIG fan of all the locked threads. Way to clean up the board Mods.

FrieAaron · Post #221 » by **FrieAaron** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:20 am

europa wrote:
sdn40 wrote:People act as if Ellis is a hot commodity.

I've long been skeptical of Ellis' trade value. We can't be the only ones who realize how bad this guy is.

Agreed. When I heard the Ellis for Smith rumors I (and most, probably) thought 'LOL...you can't be serious.' Turns out...it probably wasn't. If it was, Hammond truly is an idiot, but we'll probably never know. I think it's very possible they wanted Sanders.

Fed · Post #222 » by **Fed** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:21 am

jtrinaldi wrote:If you thought today was bad, wait until the Bucks offer Monta the Max

Say it ain't so!

DickCunningham · Post #223 » by **DickCunningham** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:31 pm

There's been no better time to pull the plug on my cable tv package. I'll rely on radio and the internet to follow the team for the next year or so. I'm tired of supporting this team with my dollars (directly or indirectly). It's this long, slow whirlpool of mediocrity that lulled me into thinking that spending 2-3 hour blocks of my evenings watching this team isn't subtracting from my life. I'll root for a white knight to come in and buy the team and become a more casual fan.

I guess we have to put Tobias Harris in the category of another blown first round pick for Hammond, since he ended up in a package of crap for a Reddick rental. It's all so depressing. With the Brewers potential woes, it's hard to look forward to baseball.

mojosodope · Post #224 » by **mojosodope** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:51 pm

It would have been nice to know what Tobes was capable of before trading him. While many on this board were not sold on him I personally think he was a good pick/asset for us, but the fact that he was buried on the bench makes it a pointless argument.

I chose to believe that he was left on the bench to keep interest in him low and to him out of trade discussions, but the fact that we traded him makes me wonder what the hell we were doing.

Post #225 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:57 pm

The hardest part about yesterday is that it signaled no change in the way this team is operated.

We will finish out the year in either the 7, 8 or 9 seed. Lose in the first round 4-1 in front of half filled Bradley Center.

Then we will draft some project player at 16. Monta will opt out and walk. The team will then massively overpay Jennings and maybe Redick. Trade Moute for some wing like Gerald Henderson in a sign and trade and the whole thing starts over next October with the Bucks listed at #19 on the power rankings. Then we will extend Larry Sanders for 4-years/$50 million.

Cue Grendon Jennings 9th seed trophy banner.

askdavescat · Post #226 » by **askdavescat** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:59 pm

CH1LDI5H wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
trwi7 wrote:The only thing you could do is have a protest where no one shows up to the game or they show up for a quarter and walk out but I have no idea how you could coordinate that.

just chant "sell the team" or something at Kohl, he'll be able to hear you over the dozens in attendance and we'll probably be able to hear it over the TV feed too so the dozens at home watching can hear it too

I would do anything to make a difference. The petition is just an experiment of sorts.

I realize this is mostly just a 'keyboard imagining' idea, but ....

If a billboard could be put up downtown, with a big picture of Herb, and the caption 'NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THE 8TH SEED!'

No way to hide that, no way to white-wash it, the way the Journal-Sentinnel and the Bucks-employee media personalities constantly do.

Again, I know this is just a dream, but it might actually give Herb and his cronies a clue as to why 2/3's of the BC is empty on a routine basis.

emunney · Post #227 » by **emunney** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:00 pm

So has anybody heard the details on the trade the Hawks pulled out of?

trwi7 · Post #228 » by **trwi7** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:03 pm

emunney wrote:So has anybody heard the details on the trade the Hawks pulled out of?

I believe it was Udrih, Udoh, LRMAM and a protected 1st for Smith and Harris.

emunney · Post #229 » by **emunney** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:05 pm

Amazing they agreed to it in the first place.

th87 · Post #230 » by **th87** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:10 pm

askdavescat wrote:I realize this is mostly just a 'keyboard imagining' idea, but ....

If a billboard could be put up downtown, with a big picture of Herb, and the caption 'NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THE 8TH SEED!'

No way to hide that, no way to white-wash it, the way the Journal-Sentinnel and the Bucks-employee media personalities constantly do.

Again, I know this is just a dream, but it might actually give Herb and his cronies a clue as to why 2/3's of the BC is empty on a routine basis.

Would gladly pitch in for this idea. Much better than giving money to the Bucks.