Official Tobias Harris watch thread (The End)

worthlessBucks · Post #5401 » by **worthlessBucks** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:49 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Yeah, we will keep it open until the new POBO or GM takes over.

That said, I really do appreciate the Tobias trade right now. In the last 48 hours we've gotten the #1 lotto seed and two billionaire owners. I do not believe all the wheels of those events go into motion without the Tobias trade. That was the catalyst.

John Hammond is a hero. Actually, he's more like an angel. Some sort of reality based Highway to Heaven, except this time instead of Michael Landon, we get John Hammond. Somebody check to make sure John doesn't hitchhike out of town with a leather bag. Can't be true.

paul · Post #5402 » by **paul** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:09 am

AussieBuck wrote:Splitter should be playing for the minimum as punishment for absolutely **** the bed throughout the last playoffs and costing Timmy another title.

Yes. I can't forgive him, ever.

paul · Post #5403 » by **paul** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:12 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Yeah, we will keep it open until the new POBO or GM takes over.

That said, I really do appreciate the Tobias trade right now. In the last 48 hours we've gotten the #1 lotto seed and two billionaire owners. I do not believe all the wheels of those events go into motion without the Tobias trade. That was the catalyst.

Well, um, I'd say a couple of his big deadline trades the last few years pissed enough of the right people off and got them motivated enough to get active in telling the world very loudly how brutally awful Kohl and his FO have been, and maybe that developed into somewhat of a movement that may have had a tiny bit of influence.

So, yeah.

Everything that was bad is good again.

Newz · Post #5404 » by **Newz** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:48 pm

paul wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Splitter should be playing for the minimum as punishment for absolutely **** the bed throughout the last playoffs and costing Timmy another title.

Yes. I can't forgive him, ever.

Tim Duncan is easily my favorite non-Wisconsin athlete and might be my favorite athlete period.

I was insanely sad when they lost. I can only hope that they can get back this year. Going to be tough to try and break through both Durant (now that he has ascended to another level as a player) and LeBron though.

Post #5405 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:07 pm

paul wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Yeah, we will keep it open until the new POBO or GM takes over.

That said, I really do appreciate the Tobias trade right now. In the last 48 hours we've gotten the #1 lotto seed and two billionaire owners. I do not believe all the wheels of those events go into motion without the Tobias trade. That was the catalyst.

Well, um, I'd say a couple of his big deadline trades the last few years pissed enough of the right people off and got them motivated enough to get active in telling the world very loudly how brutally awful Kohl and his FO have been, and maybe that developed into somewhat of a movement that may have had a tiny bit of influence.

So, yeah.

Everything that was bad is good again.

The Tobias trade failed on multiple levels bigger than just losing that player. It signified this group thought they had a team to go for it with. They brought in yet their third guard who would be a free agent wanting big money in the offseason, and then they botched acquiring Bledsoe with the Redick asset, which set off another riot.

Post #5406 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:43 am

I unlocked this one.....

The deal we made was the thread stays active until Hammond is no longer employed by the Bucks. Until such time, we will always need a reminder of his negotiating and trading skills.

Or we lock it if the Bucks acquire Bledsoe. That also works. 8-)

Aaron It Out · Post #5407 » by **Aaron It Out** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:31 am

IBTL

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raws · Post #5408 » by **raws** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:36 am

The Harris deal was obviously poor, but I think the Gooden one is a bigger indication of ineptitude. That contract was a joke from year one. At least with Reddick, we filled a need (an elite shooter) on that team and, if we're being honest, Tobias is not going to be a starting-caliber player on a good team during his initial contract.

Garbs_7 · Post #5409 » by **Garbs_7** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:16 am

I don't want to get into this again because it depresses me, but no the Redick trade was absolutely a joke, there is no way to rationalize it. Redick didn't fill a need, we weren't winning the title and weren't going to get past Miami in the first round even if JJ channelled Reggie Miller's ghost and averaged 35 ppg. A bigger need was young core pieces to develop into stars / high quality starters to enable us to form a winning team. Tobias was always more likely to fill that need than Redick.

Chapter29 · Post #5410 » by **Chapter29** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:58 am

Really? Get over it.

So much fuss over such an average player, I just don't get it.

smooth 'lil balla · Post #5411 » by **smooth 'lil balla** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:01 pm

Chapter29 wrote:Really? Get over it.

So much fuss over such an average player, I just don't get it.

But he has a great body.

Chapter29 · Post #5412 » by **Chapter29** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:06 pm

smooth 'lil balla wrote:
Chapter29 wrote:Really? Get over it.

So much fuss over such an average player, I just don't get it.

But he has a great body.

I just don't see it. He's an ok asset, but who really cares about the guy? Well....obviously many here but I just see him as nothing special.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #5413 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:43 pm

I'm down with keeping it open.

Forgetting the past makes it bound for it to be repeated.

I'll be curious to see where/how Tobes fits in with forward logjam in Orlando.

LedZepp007 · Post #5414 » by **LedZepp007** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:53 pm

This is back? Jesus. He was disappointing to me at best last season. Let it go.

LedZepp007 · Post #5415 » by **LedZepp007** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:55 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:I'm down with keeping it open.

Forgetting the past makes it bound for it to be repeated.

I'll be curious to see where/how Tobes fits in with forward logjam in Orlando.

I don't any of us is going to forget that trade. Punishing ourselves by constantly reminding ourselves helps no one.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #5416 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:35 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:I'm down with keeping it open.

Forgetting the past makes it bound for it to be repeated.

I'll be curious to see where/how Tobes fits in with forward logjam in Orlando.

I don't any of us is going to forget that trade. Punishing ourselves by constantly reminding ourselves helps no one.

It's not a punishment anymore, to me at least.

Every step we made, led to where we are today with Jabari Parker and I'm happy with where we are today.

Newz · Post #5417 » by **Newz** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:37 pm

Tobes is a great example of how people can get excited about a player and then overrate him big time.

Post #5418 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:39 pm

Newz wrote:Tobes is a great example of how people can get excited about a player and then overrate him big time.

Newz · Post #5419 » by **Newz** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:42 pm

Oh, potential spoiler alert... the same thing that happened with overrating Tobes could happen with Giannis "Seven foot tall Scottie Pippen with robot arms that can shoot laser beams out of his eyes and is unlike any other player the NBA has ever seen before" Antetokounmpo.

Hopefully not though.

Badgerlander · Post #5420 » by **Badgerlander** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:47 pm

Overrated? He was dealing with an ankle injury thru most of the early part of the season but his post all-star numbers were pretty solid, 15.8pts 6.3reb 1.3ast in 28.2min on .508%/.381%/.821% shooting, .584% TS