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ATL: Lottery reform is likely coming, and it's terrible.

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ATL: Lottery reform is likely coming, and it's terrible. 

Post#1 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:35 pm

The NBA submitted an official proposal to reform the lottery this week at competition committee meetings in Las Vegas, pushing aside the Wheel idea in favor of a revised weighting system that shifts each team’s odds of getting the top pick, per several sources who have seen and reviewed the league’s proposal.

The proposal, which dominated the lottery-reform discussion in league meetings this week, is essentially an attempt to squeeze the lottery odds at either extreme toward a more balanced system in which all 14 teams have a relatively similar chance at the no. 1 pick, per sources familiar with the proposal.

Under the current system, the team with the worst record has a 25 percent chance of snagging the no. 1 pick, perhaps the most valuable asset in the entire NBA. The team with the second-worst record has a 19.9 percent chance of winning the no. 1 pick, and the third-worst team enters the lottery with a 15.6 percent chance of moving up to the top slot. The odds decline from there, with the final five teams in the lottery — the teams with the five best records — each having a 1.1 percent or worse chance of moving up to no. 1.

The league’s proposal gives at least the four worst teams the same chance at winning the no. 1 pick: approximately an identical 11 percent shot for each club. The odds decline slowly from there, with the team in the next spot holding a 10 percent chance. The lottery team with the best record will have a 2 percent chance of leaping to the no. 1 pick, up from the the minuscule 0.5 percent chance it has under the current system.


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Post#2 » by mcfromage » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:37 pm

Nah bueno.
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Post#3 » by machu46 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:39 pm

Really? I'll never understand how intelligent people can possibly think that is a good idea.
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Post#4 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:39 pm

No system will ever be perfect, but this is horrendous. Couple this with the midsession tournament idea and I have to wonder if Silver is rolling right now.
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Post#5 » by europa » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:39 pm

No thanks.

Still think the team with the worst record should be locked into a Top 3 pick no matter what.
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Post#6 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:41 pm

I doubt they push it through this year so it shouldn't effect the bucks.

I actually don't mind it. Less incentive for teams to tank is a good thing imo.

I like that the worst team doesn't automatically get top 4. To me that's the number 1 reason to tank.

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Post#7 » by Fresh_Prince12 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:41 pm

Do they think this will stop tanking? Lol
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Post#8 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:43 pm

This was basically forced by the media and the approach that teams like Philadelphia are taking to collect top picks. While Silver was publicly saying that the 76ers are just re-tooling, he or his advisors must have known that this method of rebuilding hurts the NBA's product while it's taking place.
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Post#9 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:44 pm

I've got a great system they should try.

Draft order based solely on record. That's it. Pretty easy to setup. The NBA can call the NFL or MLB if they need help with "the details"
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Post#10 » by wichmae » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:46 pm

Bye bye tanking
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Post#11 » by Bfinkish » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:46 pm

This is stupid. Just make it easy and simple by doing what the NFL and MLB does.

So simple, but they will not do that.
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Post#12 » by El Duderino » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:46 pm

I saw this coming and the Sixers actions last year i wonder if it pushed Silver to speed up the process in trying to change the lottery system?
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Post#13 » by LUKE23 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:57 pm

The only idea I've seen worse than this one is the one where they move the #1 pick from team to team each year in order. But this is a terrible idea.
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Post#14 » by Eeavers57 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:57 pm

I don't see all the hate. I think the wheel system is better but it's not like I hate this one. I don't mind it actually because now we don't need to tank to get the worst record, all we need is to be like one of the bottom five teams.
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Post#15 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:58 pm

wichmae wrote:Bye bye tanking


What?

Instead of three or four teams tanking to get 1-3 spots, under this proposal you'll have ten teams tanking for six spots.
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Post#16 » by JabariParker12 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:59 pm

Make it like the NFL already. This isn't complicated
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Post#17 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:59 pm

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:I've got a great system they should try.

Draft order based solely on record. That's it. Pretty easy to setup. The NBA can call the NFL or MLB if they need help with "the details"

When the nba has the team aspect of the sports above it will be a good idea. If you have a guarantee number 1 pick teams will actually throw games at the end of the year in a lbj type year.

I always thought it should be a rolling 3 year record. It's harder to tank 3 years in a row and allows a bottom 3 team to improve in year three while still getting a good pick.
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Post#18 » by BobbyLight » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:59 pm

I'm confused, is this still for the top three picks only or are all lottery slots going to be "earned" via ping pong balls among the 14 worst teams?
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Post#19 » by LUKE23 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:59 pm

Yeah, this encourages more teams to tank, not less.
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Post#20 » by Miasma » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:02 pm

This morning Czabe was on Bob & Brian (I know) talking about doing a tournament at the end of the year with the lottery teams, and whomever won procured the number one pick. The prospect of bad teams never ever getting better was brought up, and everyone seemed to agree "too bad for them", "I guess they're going to have to get nitty gritty and pull themselves by the bootstraps", "better start signing free agents, then". Just a complete incomprehension of the NBA and it's power structure. It's the Bucks fault they don't go after Lebron, you know. The west is already far superior to the east, and those teams would eat the east alive, spawning an insurmountable divide. We're talking Phoenix, Denver, New Orleans, and Minnesota here. I cannot understand how anyone remotely supporting the Bucks could think this was a good idea. I guarantee this team would be gone within the decade if this happened.

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