Big 3 needed? Who is the target? Draft, FA or trade?

[DutchManDanFan]

What position for the 3rd star (forwards are locked)? Who is the target in what year? Draft, FA or trade? In what year is ECF possible?
Who can stay and who has to go (including future picks if needed).

No discussions please (we have plenty already), just position, names and deadlines.

[ReasonablySober]

Voted C.

Parker and Giannis are going to handle the ball plenty. I'd like to get Larry's younger, preferably bigger, replacement. With competent offensive ability.

[Newz]

I do not think it's realistic that we are going to be able to get a top 5 pick. Even if we sell off our vets I think these guys play too hard for Kidd. So if we want to get a pick that high we basically have to miss the playoffs an then get extremely lucky on top of that.

I think one option is to clear some room at the deadline or in the offseason so that we can go out and offer big money to a guy like Jimmy Butler or maybe even Wes Matthews. Both of those guys would be excellent fits with Giannis and Jabari... and I think they are plenty capable of being the 'third best guy' on a title team. They also are both young enough where they should still be relevent for 3-4 years once Jabari and Giannis are truly in their primes.

For me it's incredibly difficult to speculate on trades because it's hard to know who is available and when.

I will also say I'm not going to vote on position. I don't really care where we get talent. Hell, if we draft another stud forward then I could really care less... we can just play that guy all of the minutes that Jabari and Giannis aren't playing. I guess I'd prefer a center because that's the position that could make the most impact... but talent is talent.

[DutchManDanFan]

PG - trade or FA for Rondo this year or wait for CP3 in 2017.
ECF in 2017 or 2018
Stay: Sanders, Mayo, Ersan, Inglis (unless offer we can't refuse)
Go: Knight, 2015 pick and all others

[LUKE23]

My goal would be to clear Mayo and/or Ilyasova, and make a substantial offer to Wes Matthews or Jimmy Butler (we would need to clear salary for either). Keep Sanders, draft BPA (ideally a guy like Tyus Jones). I'd have Knight out there on the trade block to try and land an additional first rounder.

Jones/Matthews/Giannis/Parker/Sanders has zero holes in terms of a starting five, and all five are positive contributors with two guys with star ceilings.

[Ron Swanson]

There are a lot of good C prospects in this next draft: Towns, Okafor, Turner, Cauley-Stein, Dakari Johnson, that could be available when we pick.

I only see 3 point guards with 1st round grades (Mudiay, Jones, Harrison), so C might be the way we go, whether it's drafting Larry's backup, or drafting his replacement.

I like the idea of drafting Myles Turner or Willy Cauley-Stein with our pick, then offering Patrick Beverly a Mario Chalmers-type contract to pry him away from Houston.

[LUKE23]

Rozier and Delon Wright are mocked as 1st rounders by most people as well, but overall, I think their are only two lottery worthy PG's, Mudiay and Jones.

[M-C-G]

I am not sure if these are the guys or not, but I would be willing to gut the roster to do;

Acquire Rudy Gobert
Clear Salary to make Butler a big offer
Acquire Dennis Schroeder

Schroeder, Butler, Giannis, Parker, Gobert...That'd probably be my ideal roster going into next season.

[KingWing]

You mean 4th potential star? We already have 3 on the roster.

[Matches Malone]

I think we need a solid two way center. Larry is great, but if we had a low post scorer at the 5, it would really help out our 4 out 1 in offense we run sometimes. Okafor, Turner or Towns would be my choice. Of those three, Turner is most likely to be in our range, but that could change as the season progresses and his stock rises.

[LUKE23]

I think what we want and what the organization wants are going to be different. I'm under the impression that the organization views Knight, Giannis, Parker, and Sanders as our current core. I just don't see anything yet that makes me thing we will let Knight walk, even though I think paying him $10M+ per year would be a monumental mistake.

But operating under the assumption that's going to be our core 4, I'd really like to add the SG via FA and then have the draft available to go BPA. To make an offer to Matthews/Butler/etc. we would have to clear at least one of Pachulia/Mayo/Ilyasova, as we are currently only around $10M under the cap counting our 2015 draft slot, and assuming Dudley opts in (be foolish not to).

Unless I'm reading things incorrectly, it doesn't appear the Bulls have the cap space to fit Butler in. They are at $64M next year not counting their pick, and the cap is projected at $66.3M. They would need to clear quite a bit of salary to keep him. He'd be my target.

[LUKE23]

You mean 4th potential star? We already have 3 on the roster.

Who's the third?

[Ron Swanson]

A little surprised to see Wes Matthews consistently mentioned though. He's already 28.

Even if both Giannis and Jabari become "stars" before their 22nd birthdays, you'll have Matthews on a fairly pricey contract (11-12 mil per year at the cheapest?) and he'll be pushing 31 years old. I don't go after him unless we get a PG in the same age range like Rondo or Dragic and go full on "win-now".

Also don't know if he's worth the money we'd have to pay him. Elite efficiency for a 2-guard no doubt, but I wonder how much of that is a result of playing off two elite offensive players in Lillard and Aldridge. (shot 45, 41, and 43% in 3 seasons as a starter before Lillard was drafted).

[chonestown]

Can a Schroder/Knight backcourt work?

Based on the likelihood of reaching the playoffs, I'd probably part with a low-lottery/mid-teens pick for Schroder and throw in parts if necessary.

Agree that Sanders is flawed, but he plays high-level help defense and is an elite shot-blocker. Tend to think his position is harder to fill, so I'd go for a pg upgrade. Absolutely do not think Henson can be plugged in as a starting center without disastrous results.

I shudder to think what Butler will get on the open market considering what Haywood and Parsons got.

[LUKE23]

I get the age concerns, but Matthews TS has only been under .574 one season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... hwe02.html

Has nothing to do with Lillard.

He also came in to the NBA as a pretty old senior, so I think he has quite a bit of mileage left, especially for the role he's in.

[Newz]

I think what we want and what the organization wants are going to be different. I'm under the impression that the organization views Knight, Giannis, Parker, and Sanders as our current core. I just don't see anything yet that makes me thing we will let Knight walk, even though I think paying him $10M+ per year would be a monumental mistake.

But operating under the assumption that's going to be our core 4, I'd really like to add the SG via FA and then have the draft available to go BPA. To make an offer to Matthews/Butler/etc. we would have to clear at least one of Pachulia/Mayo/Ilyasova, as we are currently only around $10M under the cap counting our 2015 draft slot, and assuming Dudley opts in (be foolish not to).

Unless I'm reading things incorrectly, it doesn't appear the Bulls have the cap space to fit Butler in. They are at $64M next year not counting their pick, and the cap is projected at $66.3M. They would need to clear quite a bit of salary to keep him. He'd be my target.

This is exactly what I think... the only thing I differ on is I'm not sure if we view Sanders as a long-term piece of our core or not. I think our coaches like Knight, our front office likes Knight and our owners like him. I think we see him get paid and he's part of this team for a long time.

I will say that I don't think that something like 4 years/$40 million would be a total backbreaker for him. It's obviously not something I'd do. But he is talented and he is capable of being a good player. It would be interesting to see if he can fit into more of an 'elite role player' type role as Giannis and Jabari continue to improve.

If we were desperate to max someone our and add a big time player who can help us right away I would try to clear space and go after Butler... maybe Matthews. Not only are they good and worthy of pretty big deals, but they should appeal to Marquette fans around the area as well.

[Zeezprah]

hopefully we win the lottery from about the 10th position and get okafor


i've wanted jimmy butler for awhile, but that's not gonna happen considering chicago will almost undoubtedly match anything we offer.

[LUKE23]

It should also be noted that barring significant trades involving salary relief, we cannot extend Knight and sign Butler or Matthews. If I had to wager, my guess is we extend Knight and that's our offseason in terms of FA.

[KingWing]

You mean 4th potential star? We already have 3 on the roster.

Who's the third?

I think you can argue Knight as the third star. I don't like him in his current role as primary scorer/distributor, but I think he could be an excellent 3rd guy once Giannis and Jabari start to take over.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

mayo, sanders, Henson, #1(top 3 protected)
for
holiday, asik

holiday
knight
giannis
parker
asik

that's a team that has some staying power and could make a damn good run.