ESPN: What Does Kidd See in MCW? (Team USA pg12)

bigballajohn · Post #61 » by **bigballajohn** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:06 pm

DutchManDanFan wrote:Some of you are realy stupid. Kidd basicly says 2 things: He can average 9+ assists per game and develop a good 3 point shot. He only needs an off season (or 2) to get there (which he didn't had last summer). How can you not love that?

In Kidd (and his assistents) I trust.

Agreed. The part about 9 plus assists gets me really excited. A full offseason should really help.

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GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #62 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:11 pm

id really like to see if we could use the mcw asset to find a pg

JustinCredible · Post #63 » by **JustinCredible** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:17 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:id really like to see if we could use the mcw asset to find a pg

I'm confused. Is he garbage or is he an asset? Can't really have it both ways.

HurricaneKid · Post #64 » by **HurricaneKid** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:21 pm

blazza18 wrote:Why would we need a SG when we already have Middleton ?

Middleton is a great 2. But he is a natural 3. Allowing him to play half his minutes at 3 would be better for him and for the team. He just got jammed into the 2 because we have so many 3/4s. Need more G depth. IMO.

On_Wisconsin · Post #65 » by **On_Wisconsin** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:21 pm

I have the confidence that if Kidd doesn't think it'll work out they will cut bait and trade him. I'd assume he gets until the trade deadline next season to prove his worth.

I hope with an offseason to get stronger, improve his shot, and watch film with the staff he'll come back much improved.

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emunney · Post #66 » by **emunney** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:22 pm

JustinCredible wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:id really like to see if we could use the mcw asset to find a pg

I'm confused. Is he garbage or is he an asset? Can't really have it both ways.

One man's trash...

emunney · Post #67 » by **emunney** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:23 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Why would we need a SG when we already have Middleton ?

Middleton is a great 2. But he is a natural 3. Allowing him to play half his minutes at 3 would be better for him and for the team. He just got jammed into the 2 because we have so many 3/4s. Need more G depth. IMO.

We would have zero problems finding minutes for a good player of any size.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #68 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:32 pm

Bernman wrote:Well, maybe you can lose sleep over this.

http://www.bucksketball.com/2012/03/bogut-rumors-bucks-reportedly-give-pause-to-bogut-curry-deal/

Peter Vescey at the New York Post reported that the Milwaukee Bucks and Golden State Warriors almost had a deal sending Robin Lopez (who would have been acquired from Phoenix) and Stephen Curry to the Bucks for Andrew Bogut before the Bucks pulled out because of Curry’s ongoing ankle issues

http://hoopshype.com/articles/hoopshype/hoopshype-awards-stephen-curry-is-the-mvp

Now he's breaking other dude's ankles.

I know we were aware of this previously but excuse me while I go shoot myself in the face.

DanGadzuric50 · Post #69 » by **DanGadzuric50** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:36 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Why would we need a SG when we already have Middleton ?

Middleton is a great 2. But he is a natural 3. Allowing him to play half his minutes at 3 would be better for him and for the team. He just got jammed into the 2 because we have so many 3/4s. Need more G depth. IMO.

Is there really that much of a difference if he plays as the 2 or as the 3?

MiltownHawkeye · Post #70 » by **MiltownHawkeye** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:43 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:
mattg wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
Eh, I'm still intrigued by whether or not Kidd can get this performance consistently:

Those are elite numbers albeit against crappy teams.

Elite numbers? come on.

Here is a list of all the players in the history of the game that have done that over the course of a season:

Michael Jordan (2)
Magic Johnson (2)
Chris Paul

Thats the list. Elite? **** yes.

What happens when you start lowering the rebounds?

SupremeHustle · Post #71 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:46 pm

Kidd should have said 12 assists. You guys would be super pumped!!! He also should have said MCW will average 27 ppg, too. And maybe 8 rebounds. Imagine how much you'd love that!

SupremeHustle · Post #72 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:54 pm

I hope the Bucks get so good at every other spot that MCW becomes Eric Snow. That I think he can do.

Bucks_MacGyver · Post #73 » by **Bucks_MacGyver** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:16 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:I hope the Bucks get so good at every other spot that MCW becomes Eric Snow. That I think he can do.

wow thats some low expectations...eric snow has to be the worse pg to ever be a regular starter in NBA history. he can be our Ron Harper? same size...

machu46 · Post #74 » by **machu46** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:48 pm

MiltownHawkeye wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:
mattg wrote:Elite numbers? come on.

Here is a list of all the players in the history of the game that have done that over the course of a season:

Michael Jordan (2)
Magic Johnson (2)
Chris Paul

Thats the list. Elite? **** yes.

What happens when you start lowering the rebounds?

You get players that don't rebound as well as MCW.

MiltownHawkeye · Post #75 » by **MiltownHawkeye** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:06 pm

Bucks_MacGyver wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I hope the Bucks get so good at every other spot that MCW becomes Eric Snow. That I think he can do.

wow thats some low expectations...eric snow has to be the worse pg to ever be a regular starter in NBA history. he can be our Ron Harper? same size...

Didn't Eric Snow make multiple All-Defensive teams?

machu46 wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:
HurricaneKid wrote:
Here is a list of all the players in the history of the game that have done that over the course of a season:

Michael Jordan (2)
Magic Johnson (2)
Chris Paul

Thats the list. Elite? **** yes.

What happens when you start lowering the rebounds?

You get players that don't rebound as well as MCW.

Cute but I think you understand what I'm getting at.

SupremeHustle · Post #76 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:26 pm

Bucks_MacGyver wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I hope the Bucks get so good at every other spot that MCW becomes Eric Snow. That I think he can do.

wow thats some low expectations...eric snow has to be the worse pg to ever be a regular starter in NBA history. he can be our Ron Harper? same size...

If you mean the borderline all star SG Harper was when healthy, no MCW can't be that. If you mean one of the crappiest PGs in the league later in his career, well, even I don't think he'll be that bad.

Siefer · Post #77 » by **Siefer** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:30 pm

Bucks_MacGyver wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I hope the Bucks get so good at every other spot that MCW becomes Eric Snow. That I think he can do.

wow thats some low expectations...eric snow has to be the worse pg to ever be a regular starter in NBA history. he can be our Ron Harper? same size...

I don't think you know much about either Eric Snow or Ron Harper.

SupremeHustle · Post #78 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:31 pm

Siefer wrote:
Bucks_MacGyver wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I hope the Bucks get so good at every other spot that MCW becomes Eric Snow. That I think he can do.

wow thats some low expectations...eric snow has to be the worse pg to ever be a regular starter in NBA history. he can be our Ron Harper? same size...

I don't think you know much about either Eric Snow or Ron Harper.

I should have just said that.

RealBucksFan · Post #79 » by **RealBucksFan** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:25 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Why would we need a SG when we already have Middleton ?

Middleton is a great 2. But he is a natural 3. Allowing him to play half his minutes at 3 would be better for him and for the team. He just got jammed into the 2 because we have so many 3/4s. Need more G depth. IMO.

I think Middleton may be a better 2 than 3. Because he can have constant mismatches in the post as a 2 and can shoot over guys in mid-range. He doesn't provide the best ball-handling for a SG, but hopefully Giannis can be the secondary ball-handler. Bucks need shooting more than ball-handling. I think Middleton at SG really is a great way to force mismatches, especially since he has proved capable of defending the position.

Perishable517 · Post #80 » by **Perishable517** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:59 pm

Chapter29 wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Kidd is certainly the de facto GM for better or worse

No. He is as our owners said, half of the decision making process. They said they were a team and that they owners would be the deciding factor of the two disagree. Now if you're telling me that they will always override Hammond, then yes I would agree Kidd is GM, but I see no evidence that says Kidd is effectively overruling Hammond.

Can't Hammond have really liked MCW as well? Can't they be a team? Isn't Hammond more skilled at player evaluation, grading the draft, things like that? I think they make a good team actually.

Hammond does like long, rangy type of players.

If the improvements come this offseason (like I expect) the Bucks will have a starting lineup of no one shorter than 6'7". There is not a team in the league that can match that. That becomes an advantage.