2018 NBA Draft Thread | Part 1

[Pachinko_]

Doncic will never have to guard a Wall or a Lillard. He will guard 2s and/or 3s.

doesnt matter where you try to hide him the other team will attack him straight away
especially if he ever makes the POs

[Gam]

Doncic will never have to guard a Wall or a Lillard. He will guard 2s and/or 3s.

doesnt matter where you try to hide him the other team will attack him straight away
especially if he ever makes the POs

He will be just fine defending in the league. Maybe not his first couple years, but if Joe Engles or Delly can be good defenders (lazy white guy comps) there's zero reason Doncic can't be one.

[freewhitemoon]

Doncic will never have to guard a Wall or a Lillard. He will guard 2s and/or 3s.

doesnt matter where you try to hide him the other team will attack him straight away
especially if he ever makes the POs

I know the warriors do that but most teams dont have the personnel to pull that off. It's why Kevin Love has never really been much of a defensive liability in the playoffs except against golden state

[Pachinko_]

eh, ok, we'll see soon enough I guess
I reckon he's way overrated.

[chonestown]

I'd prefer not to think about scenarios where we end up in the lottery.

Giannis missing 40+ games = lotto.

[Ron Swanson]

My way too early hot take on Doncic is that he's more Hedo Turkoglu than James Harden. He's a top-5 prospect IMO, but wouldn't consider taking him #1 overall. A taller Lonzo Ball with better shot mechanics also works.

[SirChurros]

I would do almost anything to trade up to get Bamba. He is the best defensive prospect in a long, long time.

[GFreak34]

I'm old enough to remember 19 year old Drazen Petrovic, Peja Stojakovic and Toni Kukoc. I think they were all better than Doncic to be honest... he is very good obviously, and he will have a career in the League, but I don't think he's *that* good to go #2.

I mean you just named 3 great euros, really wish we had some way to get to the top 2 of this draft. Porter and Doncic look like great prospects.

the point is Petro and Peja had similar backgrounds and similar game as Doncic, and yet never got near to be considered top in the league, even though they were better than Doncic at the same age. If you had the opportunity to see them all at a young age that's just how it feels. For whatever that's worth...

Petrovic had no similar background to Peja.. Petrovic was a product of the united Yugoslavian basketball.. He played with Divac, Radja and the others (obviously was a member of that great Yugo team that lost in 1987).. As a Croatian he played with Croatia after the Split. He was an awesome guard and a great shooter.

Peja, was a kid that's been brought to Greece and raised here coz of the war.. he literally was raised in the environment of the Greek basket which was on the rise.. he proven to be a hell of a shooter.. he was about to play for the Greek national team but got dismissed from the Greek Commissioner, all that mess eventually ended up with him playing for Serbia (rightfully so, the kid was Serbian) and picked by the Kings later on.. the rest is history.

So, Peja and Petrovic, aren't similar cases.. on was a product of the united Yugo school of basket, the other was a product of Greek basketball (he arrived in Greece at age 14)

[GFreak34]

if we could get one from the next draft, obviously the best selection and the safest bet for a superstar would be Michael Porter.. second best being Bamba.. But Doncic might be around there in the mix on the top5

[Pachinko_]

I mean you just named 3 great euros, really wish we had some way to get to the top 2 of this draft. Porter and Doncic look like great prospects.

the point is Petro and Peja had similar backgrounds and similar game as Doncic, and yet never got near to be considered top in the league, even though they were better than Doncic at the same age. If you had the opportunity to see them all at a young age that's just how it feels. For whatever that's worth...

Petrovic had no similar background to Peja.. Petrovic was a product of the united Yugoslavian basketball.. He played with Divac, Radja and the others (obviously was a member of that great Yugo team that lost in 1987).. As a Croatian he played with Croatia after the Split. He was an awesome guard and a great shooter.

Peja, was a kid that's been brought to Greece and raised here coz of the war.. he literally was raised in the environment of the Greek basket which was on the rise.. he proven to be a hell of a shooter.. he was about to play for the Greek national team but got dismissed from the Greek Commissioner, all that mess eventually ended up with him playing for Serbia (rightfully so, the kid was Serbian) and picked by the Kings later on.. the rest is history.

So, Peja and Petrovic, aren't similar cases.. on was a product of the united Yugo school of basket, the other was a product of Greek basketball (he arrived in Greece at age 14)

you're splitting hairs man, there's not much difference in the brand of basketball between Serbia and Greece anyway, Yugoslavia was always massively influencial all over Europe with coaches and players everywhere.
Peja played for Red Star Belgrade in Serbia and came to Greece at 16, where his coach (if I remember correctly?) was Dusan Ivkovic, a Serbian (or maybe they had just switched to Johnny Newman, I can't remember exactly). Doncic learned the basics in Slovenia and then Spain, but it doesnt even matter, it's the same play.

[GFreak34]

I mean you just named 3 great euros, really wish we had some way to get to the top 2 of this draft. Porter and Doncic look like great prospects.

the point is Petro and Peja had similar backgrounds and similar game as Doncic, and yet never got near to be considered top in the league, even though they were better than Doncic at the same age. If you had the opportunity to see them all at a young age that's just how it feels. For whatever that's worth...

Petrovic had no similar background to Peja.. Petrovic was a product of the united Yugoslavian basketball.. He played with Divac, Radja and the others (obviously was a member of that great Yugo team that lost in 1987).. As a Croatian he played with Croatia after the Split. He was an awesome guard and a great shooter.

Peja, was a kid that's been brought to Greece and raised here coz of the war.. he literally was raised in the environment of the Greek basket which was on the rise.. he proven to be a hell of a shooter.. he was about to play for the Greek national team but got dismissed from the Greek Commissioner, all that mess eventually ended up with him playing for Serbia (rightfully so, the kid was Serbian) and picked by the Kings later on.. the rest is history.

So, Peja and Petrovic, aren't similar cases.. on was a product of the united Yugo school of basket, the other was a product of Greek basketball (he arrived in Greece at age 14)

Nope, Ivcovic was already a part of PAOK's team.. i think they ve won a cup with him before Peja showed up.. Our way of playing the game doesn't have many similarities with the Yugoslavian one.. we were and still are, more defense oriented and the Yugos where more run and gun.. anywayz, no he hasn't came at 16, coz he spend a year in PAOK's minors and he made his debut at the major team at 16.. played a couple of years and went abroad.. he was a basketball player at a junior level, but he matured in Greece.. i can still remember the same debate about him, considering if he should or shouldn't be selected with our NT.. as it turns out he didn't.

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[Pachinko_]

Yeah I don't know, I always thought that those kids who migrated early from Yugoslavia to various countries always had something distinctively Yugoslavian in their style of play. But like I said we're splitting hairs... the point is not the subtle minor differences between Greek and Serbian players, but the vast differences between NBA and Euro players in general.

My whole point was that Petrovic as a player had much much more in common with someone like Doncic than someone like Kobe Bryant. I don't think there's an argument there.

[emunney]

Mikal Bridges, final answer.

I love this kid. Dude plays off-ball defense like a soccer goalie. He lays out to deflect passes! Going to be a really good player imo.

Will explode this year and go top 10. If he doesn't, hope we take him.

[VooDoo7]

If we stay healthy, looking at how some of the other teams in the east have gotten worse, I expect us to be picking 17 to 19 next year.

[Baddy Chuck]

Mikal Bridges, final answer.

I love this kid. Dude plays off-ball defense like a soccer goalie. He lays out to deflect passes! Going to be a really good player imo.

Will explode this year and go top 10. If he doesn't, hope we take him.

Yeah I could definitely see a huge jump with him.

[Jez2983]

I'd prefer not to think about scenarios where we end up in the lottery.

Giannis missing 40+ games = lotto.

How to make someone think about things he doesn't want to think about:


Make a post explaining the exact thing he was trying not to think about.

[jakecronus8]

Still think Doncic has the Andrew Luck thing going on where one or two people call him this generational prospect while he's actually just a nice prospect but for some reason a bunch of people just run with it. I could be wrong but the footage I've seen doesn't come close to matching the hype.

[machu46]

I think Bamba ends up closer to the 10th pick than the 1st pick when it's all said and done. He's my pick for preseason potential top pick that disappoints.


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[SirChurros]

I think Bamba ends up closer to the 10th pick than the 1st pick when it's all said and done. He's my pick for preseason potential top pick that disappoints.


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The only reason he could come anywhere close to dropping that far is because he decided to go to Texas. His defense alone makes him a top-10 pick. That doesn't even factor in his tremendous rim-running ability.