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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Horst to Detroit rumor 

Post#1801 » by emunney » Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:19 pm

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Appreciate it, but you're not responsible for my unhealthy compulsions.

Hear that, I think we all know our obsession with the Bucks is an unhealthy compulsion all in itself.

I'm not trying to say I'm some zen mode, never react negatively guy. Just this place can fluctuate between worst place to read about Bucks on the internet to best place based off what happened yesterday. Sometimes its better to just wait and see before you make yourself look stupid


We'll just have to agree to agree on that point.
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Post#1802 » by KidA24 » Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:55 pm

BigO wrote:I promised I wouldn't get into another full-blown Bobby discussion, but to make it short:

1) The narrative that he has been abysmal is just another false narrative that repetition has transformed into fact.

2) Below are his playoff numbers. They are not as good as the regular season, because most players numbers drop during the playoffs. That's why scores are usually much lower.

3) His rebounding has remained very good in the playoffs. It's his three point shooting that dropped significantly.

4) I like Bobby as a scoring and rebounding spark off the bench. I don't like him having to start, which he will probably have to do today and has had to do in many of his playoff appearances.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/bobby-portis-career-playoff-stats


Let's go series by series, shall we?

First off, his playoffs with the Bulls doesn't matter, considering that was the best shooting series of his career, his numbers are worse than you show.

Second:
During two non-competitive first round series for the Bucks (vs Miami in '21 and vs Chicago in '22) Bobby played wonderfully.
vs Miami he shot 58/46/75 and averaged 11/6 with a 70%TS and 14.5 TREB%.

vs Chicago he shot 46/36/58 and averaged 11 pts/11 rebs, 55% TS and 23.9 TREB%

Now, how about the competitive series?
vs Brooklyn: 33%/0%/0% (2FTA, 0-4 3PA), 3pts/4reb per game in the 4 games he played. 32%TS and 13.5TREB%
vs ATL: 47/26/71, 12.5 pts 6.5 rebs (not bad) 53%TS and 15.4 TREB%
vs Phoenix: 43/44/100 7.7 pts 4 rebs .55% TS and 14.5%TREB
vs Boston in 22: 40/23/92, 9.9 pts, 9.0 rebs .481 TS% and 18.7TREB%
vs Miami in 23: 48/28/100, 9.6 pts 8.2 rebs .567 TS% and 22.0 TREB%

His regular seasons with the Bucks he's averaged 17.7 TREB%. I guess he's close to that in competitive series.
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Post#1803 » by Matches Malone » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:09 pm

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Post#1804 » by Gianstoppable » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:16 am

So yeah let's not trade Dame
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Post#1805 » by DingleJerry » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:20 am

What a pleasant surprise this has been.
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Post#1806 » by blazza18 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:25 am

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Post#1807 » by emunney » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:14 pm

With Charlotte getting a new GM, wonder how patient they'll be with Mark Williams. Would love to see if Suki and Co can straighten out his back issues.
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Post#1808 » by emunney » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:25 pm

Still a big Dalen Terry fan, too, although with the Bulls now signaling rebuild, suspect he'll be a part of that.
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Post#1809 » by -Jragon- » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:48 am

Gianstoppable wrote:So yeah let's not trade Dame


Yeah exactly.. just keep finding more and developing more 3 and D experts or other complimentary guys around him and GA.. make them 2 figure out how to play off each other.. it shouldn't be that hard; it should be fun passing to a teammate that good
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Post#1810 » by giannis and 1 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:22 pm

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Never forget that many of you wanted Giannis traded during our 2021 run. This place sucks
Let's not get carried away.

It was a couple people who suggested it might be worth looking into trades followed by their endless defense against the backlash of the very notion.

The outrage was far more vocal by those who took offense than those who asked a question.

Joke of a question to ask. Not even something to even ponder.
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Post#1811 » by TroyD92 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:55 am

If I cared enough I'd do a full retrospective of John Horst's hits and misses.
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Post#1812 » by RiotPunch » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:37 am

TroyD92 wrote:If I cared enough I'd do a full retrospective of John Horst's hits and misses.

There's got to be a sicko out there that will do it. I'll see where these adult beverages take me tonight.
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Post#1813 » by yb90 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:21 am

I still say Kevin Porter Jr is the best buy low candidate that solves a boat load of issues. He is another live dribbler, athlete, and combo defender.

If his case was as overblown as his ex said it was then do a private investigation and if he pass sign him.
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Post#1814 » by Wonka » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:38 am

yb90 wrote:I still say Kevin Porter Jr is the best buy low candidate that solves a boat load of issues. He is another live dribbler, athlete, and combo defender.

If his case was as overblown as his ex said it was then do a private investigation and if he pass sign him.


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Post#1815 » by skones » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:51 am

emunney wrote:Still a big Dalen Terry fan, too, although with the Bulls now signaling rebuild, suspect he'll be a part of that.


Perfect, we can snake Patrick Williams because he never "was worthy of the 4th overall pick."
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Post#1816 » by Ayt » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:34 am

skones wrote:
emunney wrote:Still a big Dalen Terry fan, too, although with the Bulls now signaling rebuild, suspect he'll be a part of that.


Perfect, we can snake Patrick Williams because he never "was worthy of the 4th overall pick."


They are going to massively overpay Patrick Williams to be a scrub.
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Post#1817 » by skones » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:37 am

Ayt wrote:
skones wrote:
emunney wrote:Still a big Dalen Terry fan, too, although with the Bulls now signaling rebuild, suspect he'll be a part of that.


Perfect, we can snake Patrick Williams because he never "was worthy of the 4th overall pick."


They are going to massively overpay Patrick Williams to be a scrub.


I think they turn the page, and a scrub he is not.
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Post#1818 » by Ayt » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:42 am

skones wrote:
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Perfect, we can snake Patrick Williams because he never "was worthy of the 4th overall pick."


They are going to massively overpay Patrick Williams to be a scrub.


I think they turn the page, and a scrub he is not.


He's a **** scrub. Honestly, he's one of the most overrated players in the league considering what he is likely to get as a FA. Bulls fans are already talking themselves into giving him 20M per year.
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Post#1819 » by skones » Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:45 am

Ayt wrote:
skones wrote:
Ayt wrote:
They are going to massively overpay Patrick Williams to be a scrub.


I think they turn the page, and a scrub he is not.


He's a **** scrub. Honestly, he's one of the most overrated players in the league considering what he is likely to get as a FA. Bulls fans are already talking themselves into giving him 20M per year.


Nah, he's not. It's that general perception though, that allows you to take advantage of an inefficiency in the market. 22 years old, elite wing defender, can switch across any position, fights over screens like a MFER, athleticism, hits the triple at a 40% clip, and people love to **** on him because they can't take their blinders off of the draft position tag.

Like what about that do you not like?
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Post#1820 » by BUCKnation » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:02 pm

I'm not super high on Pat Williams, but he's certainly the type of player that would have way more value for the Bucks than the Bulls

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