Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Horst to Detroit rumor

[Karsenmitsche]

I think with Horst it’s very much how it was with Bud in 2021. If we don’t make it to the finals I don’t see how he survives with everything that happened this season.

[yb90]

I would give it another year to make judgments on the Lillard trade. People laughed at the Gobert trade but a season later look at their defense. Every situation is different but sometimes things take time to happen.

[JayMKE]

I’ll be so happy when Horst GTFO, he may have doomed any chance of Giannis getting a 2nd ring in Milwaukee. Can’t afford to allow him to try to clean up his mistakes.

[ColeWorld23]

The writing is on the wall with Horst after this season.

[theFireBlanket]

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So Dame thinks Stephen A is our hero and gonna take pollution down to zero? I don’t get it

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[Profound23]

Let Horst go to Detroit then back the brink truck up for Tim Connelly

[Matches Malone]

The man can't help himself. Any chance he can push this narrative, he'll take it. I suppose if he says it enough times it could eventually happen lol.

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[Profound23]

The man can't help himself. Any chance he can push this narrative, he'll take it. I suppose if he says it enough times it could eventually happen lol.

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They only have to be right one time to say "I told you so" but I will say if we don't get youth/athleticism I can see him forcing his way out and wouldn't hate him for it.

[BUCKnation]

I would give it another year to make judgments on the Lillard trade. People laughed at the Gobert trade but a season later look at their defense. Every situation is different but sometimes things take time to happen.

Luka and Kyrie took a full year too, in a recent example. Pretty much all of these superstar team ups have gone poorly or not up to expectations in year 1 outside of the Nets recently.

[Profound23]

I would give it another year to make judgments on the Lillard trade. People laughed at the Gobert trade but a season later look at their defense. Every situation is different but sometimes things take time to happen.

Luka and Kyrie took a full year too, in a recent example. Pretty much all of these superstar team ups have gone poorly or not up to expectations in year 1 outside of the Nets recently.

This is a good point and I heard it immediately after the Dame trade, but didn't believe it. I really thought Dame and Giannis were perfect for each other.

Ok, you sold me, I will wait one more year and stop bi***ing about Dame.

[WeMajor34]

I would give it another year to make judgments on the Lillard trade. People laughed at the Gobert trade but a season later look at their defense. Every situation is different but sometimes things take time to happen.

Luka and Kyrie took a full year too, in a recent example. Pretty much all of these superstar team ups have gone poorly or not up to expectations in year 1 outside of the Nets recently.

THIS is why I think the team runs it back with the Giannis-Dame core regardless of the outcome in these playoffs. I still have a semblance of Dame hope though, so I may be in the minority. Horst or no Horst, it's going to be a really tough sell to Giannis that we need to re-think the Dame acquisition and start from scratch again. I bet Giannis gives us one more year, even if we lose in the first round like many people are predicting.

[LUKE23]

Does anyone have the final regular season Dame/GA PnR stats and where they ranked league wide for frequency/efficiency?

[emunney]

Could go in Around the League, but I'm putting it here, since it involves the Buck. This made me smile - it's cute.

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I like GG. Really surprised at how good he's been. Feels like the kind of guy we'd have had in the down years and there'd be a 80 page thread debating whether we should trade him for Kawhi.

[Ron Swanson]

Does anyone have the final regular season Dame/GA PnR stats and where they ranked league wide for frequency/efficiency?

Don't know where to find specific Dame/Giannis sets, but:

- Dame P&R ball-handler: 0.99 PPP (82nd percentile) on the 5th most possessions of all qualified players
- Giannis roll-man: 1.23 PPP (62nd percentile) on only 7.2% frequency (1.9 possessions per)

Despite the gripes about Dame looking uncomfortable, we ran a **** ton of pick and roll with him (he was 4th in total possessions last season). But the Giannis as a roll-man stuff continues to not be this world destroying weapon that everyone wants it to be, even if you can argue we should be running it more.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I think Horst got too much credit early and taking too much heat now. Like what did you think was going to happen when we traded all our assets for Holiday and pretty much forcing us into max contracts with him and Midds as they aged with very little draft equity? Everyone seemed to like the trade at the time, but now we have to pay off the loans.

[Matches Malone]

I haven't really cared about the discourse surrounding Giannis and the 1st team talk, but now I'm starting to see idiots who I don't even follow show up on my TL with tweets like this...

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How did Giannis become so disliked in the media? No way I'd have Tatum or Brunson in before Giannis this season even though both those guys had excellent seasons. And now people want to bring team records into the discussion as if that has any bearing on it. This isn't the MVP vote lol.

[RogerMurdock]

How did Giannis become so disliked in the media?

a) Can't shoot. People don't consider players to be "skilled" if they don't have a good jumper.
b) Bucks' disappointing playoff results outside of the title run. And lots of people discount that one, too, because of Durant's toe and opponents' injuries.

I'm not remotely agreeing with them, I'm just stating what I believe is causing the bias.

[dbrodz7]

How did Giannis become so disliked in the media?

a) Can't shoot. People don't consider players to be "skilled" if they don't have a good jumper.
b) Bucks' disappointing playoff results outside of the title run. And lots of people discount that one, too, because of Durant's toe and opponents' injuries.

I'm not remotely agreeing with them, I'm just stating what I believe is causing the bias.

You missed the most important one: he plays in Milwaukee.

[Matches Malone]

How did Giannis become so disliked in the media?

a) Can't shoot. People don't consider players to be "skilled" if they don't have a good jumper.
b) Bucks' disappointing playoff results outside of the title run. And lots of people discount that one, too, because of Durant's toe and opponents' injuries.

I'm not remotely agreeing with them, I'm just stating what I believe is causing the bias.

It just sucks to see one of the best players of this generation get treated like a bum. He's putting up one of his best seasons and it seems like nobody recognizes that outside of Bucks fans and a few select.

I'm just gonna go back to trying to ignore the noise. Does no good for my health

[fansinceforever]

The people ragging on Giannis are some of the most brainless commentators the game has. Who cares.

On Horst - I'll help him pack.