Game 26: Bucks @ Pacers, 6:00 PM FSNWI

steger_3434 · Post #621 » by **steger_3434** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:32 am

I lost all respect for you if you honestly felt just as comfortable with Redd at the line as Jennings. That really blows my mind if you're thinking like that. It's becoming harder and harder to believe you're really not a Redd fan, like you've claimed in the past.

jeremyd236 · Post #622 » by **jeremyd236** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:33 am

steger_3434 wrote:Plus, Redd missed 2, Jennings only 1. What hurts a team more. A guy going 10-20 from the line or 1-2. They're both the same percentages.

Also, in Jennings short career he's been CLUTCH at the line. While Redd used to shoot a good percentage, he was always UNCLUTCH.

False. Redd actually used to be "clutch" his first few years. Redd won the "Nestle Crunch-time player of the year" thing on NBA.com once, and finished second to KG the next year.

There's no chance in hell you can win this argument unless you say Jennings is a better FT shooter THIS season, because he is. But you're trying to say Redd shot terrible in this GAME, when he shot the same % as a guy you said is "clutch".

Total_Package · Post #623 » by **Total_Package** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:33 am

Who cares about the free throws. We've forgotten how to win in close ones... we've had that many losses by less than 3 points this year that it's all become mental. Having the team sitting there shooting 100 free throws at practice isn't going to fix ****. We need to start winning these close ones and get confidence back.

jeremyd236 · Post #624 » by **jeremyd236** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:34 am

steger_3434 wrote:I lost all respect for you if you honestly felt just as comfortable with Redd at the line as Jennings. That really blows my mind if you're thinking like that. It's becoming harder and harder to believe you're really not a Redd fan, like you've claimed in the past.

AGAIN, LEARN TO READ. I NEVER SAID I FELT REDD AS MORE CLUTCH OR I FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH HIM AT THE LINE.

CAN YOU READ? Answer this question to prove to me you can read.

All I said was Redd shot the same % as Jennings. Go back and read again if you have to. Read it 100 times if you have to. I NEVER said anything you're saying right now. Get a clue.

icat2000 · Post #625 » by **icat2000** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:34 am

I love to see the game logs in fourth quarters to see how many times Redd misses his FT. It feels like most games.

steger_3434 · Post #626 » by **steger_3434** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:34 am

I'm sitting here stunned that Jeremy really believes that Redd's FT"s shouldn't be talked about because he shot the same percentage as Jennings. My God.

jeremyd236 · Post #627 » by **jeremyd236** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:35 am

I'm not a "Redd" fan. I'm a realistic Bucks fan.

Redd shot the same % this game as Jennings.

Redd is over 82% in his career.

Right now, Jennings is the better FT shooter (this season).

I've said NOTHING about who I feel more comfortable with (who by the way is Jennings because he's better this season which I've already said).

You arguing against any of this proves that you're looking for something to argue about.

steger_3434 · Post #628 » by **steger_3434** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:36 am

jeremyd236 wrote:Redd shot 50%, Jennings shot 50%.

So what did this post mean then? Just telling us so we didn't have to check the boxscores after the game. Why not just post the whole boxscore and make it easier. Like you didn't have an agenda with that post.

jeremyd236 · Post #629 » by **jeremyd236** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:36 am

steger_3434 wrote:I'm sitting here stunned that Jeremy really believes that Redd's FT"s shouldn't be talked about because he shot the same percentage as Jennings. My God.

Again, NOT WHAT I SAID. steger, prove that you can read. Honestly. Either that or quote where I said Redd's FTs shouldn't be talked about. You're pathetic if you have to make **** up to try to prove a point.

I said it's ridiculous to single out a player when Bogut, Bell, Jennings and Redd combined for 1-8. Redd was 0-2, that's absolutely correct.

Max Green · Post #630 » by **Max Green** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:37 am

jeremyd236 wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:I lost all respect for you if you honestly felt just as comfortable with Redd at the line as Jennings. That really blows my mind if you're thinking like that. It's becoming harder and harder to believe you're really not a Redd fan, like you've claimed in the past.

AGAIN, LEARN TO READ. I NEVER SAID I FELT REDD AS MORE CLUTCH OR I FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH HIM AT THE LINE.

CAN YOU READ? Answer this question to prove to me you can read.

All I said was Redd shot the same % as Jennings. Go back and read again if you have to. Read it 100 times if you have to. I NEVER said anything you're saying right now. Get a clue.

You might as well stop wasting your time. He's a certified Redd hater, no point in arguing with him. He hates Redd with passion and thinks everything he does is terrible and you won't convince him otherwise.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #631 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:38 am

IIRC, Redd won the nestle thing because it didn't really weight big shots. He made a ton of FTS up 4 or something that year. His actual game clinching shots or game winning shots weren't pretty

steger_3434 · Post #632 » by **steger_3434** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:39 am

jeremyd236 wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:I'm sitting here stunned that Jeremy really believes that Redd's FT"s shouldn't be talked about because he shot the same percentage as Jennings. My God.

Again, NOT WHAT I SAID. steger, prove that you can read. Honestly. Either that or quote where I said Redd's FTs shouldn't be talked about. You're pathetic if you have to make **** up to try to prove a point.

I said it's ridiculous to single out a player when Bogut, Bell, Jennings and Redd combined for 1-8. Redd was 0-2, that's absolutely correct.

No doubt that Bell and Bogut were horrible at the end as well. However, the LAST play was designed for Redd to get it. That is why I was talking about it. Jennings should have gotten it since he's been our most clutch and best FT shooter this year.

jeremyd236 · Post #633 » by **jeremyd236** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:40 am

I agree 100%. But I never said Redd should have gotten the play, did I? Not even close.

I didn't even see the initial play and I find it hard to believe that Skiles would even do that. All I saw was Redd get the ball.

Was Jennings covered?

steger_3434 · Post #634 » by **steger_3434** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:41 am

jeremyd236 wrote:I agree 100%. But I never said Redd should have gotten the play, did I? Not even close.

I didn't even see the initial play and I find it hard to believe that Skiles would even do that. All I saw was Redd get the ball.

Was Jennings covered?

Jennings barely moved. The call was for Redd form the get go.

chuckleslove · Post #635 » by **chuckleslove** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:42 am

Didn't Jennings inbound the ball again like he did at the end of the Kings game? The way the players came out it was clearly designed for Redd though no matter where Jennings was.

LUKE23 · Post #636 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:42 am

You're using the same % argument when Jennings took 2 FT for the game? I honestly hope you're joking or high as a kite right now.

Redd is a f'ing joke in the clutch and has been for some time.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #637 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:45 am

I'll admit it. I wanted Redd to shoot those. Then again I thought he was atleast capable of hitting FTs and thus pad his stats.

jeremyd236 · Post #638 » by **jeremyd236** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:51 am

LUKE23 wrote:You're using the same % argument when Jennings took 2 FT for the game? I honestly hope you're joking or high as a kite right now.

Redd is a f'ing joke in the clutch and has been for some time.

Never said he was good in the clutch. But Redd only took 4 FTs. I'm not sure there's much of a difference between 4 and 2.

I'm NOT saying Redd is better, let's be clear. Just trying to be objective!

edit: wow messed that post up

LUKE23 · Post #639 » by **LUKE23** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:55 am

Never said he wasn't good in the clutch. But Redd only took 4 FTs. I'm not sure there's much of a difference between 4 and 2.

That is relevant how? Those little mini game samples trump the season sample for each player? I just don't understand what you are trying to debate here.

Total_Package · Post #640 » by **Total_Package** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:04 am

How anyone can stick up for Redd and say he is not the anti-clutch is beyond me. This isn't recent.. it's been happening for years.