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Post#1231 » by re49gb_2gho32fp » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:32 pm

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why isn't nemanja bjelica getting any time for caja laboral? he has only played more than 10 minutes twice(just) in euroleague comepition and barely plays at all in acb competition? any one know why this is? he could be a good piece for us in the future but he is never gonna improve unless he gets some time oevr in europe.


It is a bit concerning to be fair. especially considering caja only plays with two players in their frontcourt (rest is spot mins for bjelica and that other guy). Latest i heard was that he was having back spasms as of late. Also, on two separate occasions with serbian media he signaled that he made the right move and that he likes the opportunity for improvement there (his coach is widely known as the most exacting coaches around europe as far as practised, and he is reluctant to playing new players big mins).
Im not liking the low minutes at all.

finally, does he have a brother named milko that plays with jonas valaciunas in lietuvos rytas? i know they share the same last name and he has been playing quite well


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A friend asked about Bjelica. I believe he is no good. Ivkovic the father of all coaches in Serbia picked Keselij instead of Bjelica. He is really talented but very soft and does not have that Serbian 3 point killer instict... I mean just remember players playing for Yugoslavia at the three spot. They could really make it outside the perimeter.



I've watched him extensively as he played for my fav serbian club. its true when you say that he is soft. Olympiacos has 3 of the top 5 playmakers in europe so i really see little use for bjelica as a fit there, they play with two of those on the court simultaneously more often than not. i think keselj was just a better fit.
His talents are a conundrum, it really seems that he can do virtually anything on the court at times. he shoots well, incredible courtvision, passes well, dribbles good, anticipates stealing good, read the game on both ends,bit unathletic though. the intermittent kukoc comparisons were not unwarranted. This kid was THE sensation in serbian media while playing for red star. he completely owned some games by his own in all competitions.
his main weakness is of mental character. he seems to be mentally fragile. it may hamper him from become what he could be.
I think he might be a solid fit as a pointforward to complement the pg spot in playmaking. i just dont see where he would get mins over beasley if he'd eventually come over.
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Post#1232 » by Klomp » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:36 am

kiwi_adam wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors/_/date/20101229#20005
The Timberwolves have long publicly held that Ricky Rubio, a 2009 draft selection of the team, will indeed eventually come over from Spain and play for the team.

But others, citing the Wolves' less-than-stellar track record of late, were dubious to this claim, and thought Rubio may never suit up for the team.

Yet, there are increasing indications that Rubio will be bought out from FC Barcelona this summer and come over for the 2011-12 season.
Bill Ingram of HOOPSWORLD wrote that "the Timberwolves grow more confident by the day that Rubio will finally come over from Europe."

And Ken Berger of CBS Sports is reporting Rubio has even let such intentions be known to the team.

"According to a person familiar with the situation [Rubio] has given team officials his word that he will join the Wolves next season," wrote Berger. "The buyout that Minnesota must pay FC Barcelona is down to $1 million, but it's not clear how Rubio's decision could be affected by a lockout. Even if Rubio comes to Minnesota, there's no guarantee he'll thrive immediately."If this is the case, it may put the wheels in motion for Jonny Flynn to eventually be traded in the future -- something we noted earlier Wednesday.



http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?sto ... z19WI02H8u

i certainly hope this source is right, mods feel free to delete this if it has already been posted....exciting times for minny!!

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Post#1233 » by sergiio_88 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:48 pm

Barcelona Vs Real Madrid will start in 12 minutes.

You can view this game in www.acb.com
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Post#1234 » by lobishome » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:02 pm

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Post#1235 » by Grits n Gravy » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:53 pm

just watched the 4th quarter don't know how ricky played the rest of the game but he was a human victory cigar in the 4th quarter
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Post#1236 » by Piecake » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:00 pm

Watched the game on and off. Thought he looked pretty good. Played good defense and made some good passes. He air-balled a wide open 3, so thats not good. He definitely needs to improve that.

I dont know, maybe it was just this game, but I thought he was more of a drive and dish type player. I really didnt see much of that at all when i was watching.

Still, actually looked like he could defend people, so thats a positive if he finally comes over
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Post#1237 » by jpatrick » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:00 pm

I know it's not his role to score for Barcelona but him consistently putting up these low scoring games, 2 today, is somewhat worriesome. No matter how great of a passer he is he's going to need to be able to score here, at least a little, to keep defenses honest.
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Post#1238 » by Piecake » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:11 pm

jpatrick wrote:I know it's not his role to score for Barcelona but him consistently putting up these low scoring games, 2 today, is somewhat worriesome. No matter how great of a passer he is he's going to need to be able to score here, at least a little, to keep defenses honest.


Yea, he doesnt have the absurd quickness and length of Rondo(or Rondo's teammates :lol: ) to make up for a lack of shooting ability.

To be a decent NBA player, he needs to be able to hit the open jumper. To be a very good NBA player, he is needs to be able to hit a jumper off the dribble in the pick and roll. If he cant, defenses are just going to go under the screen, sag, and close off his driving and passing lanes, and dare him to shoot.
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Post#1239 » by BamBam9 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:22 pm

jpatrick wrote:I know it's not his role to score for Barcelona but him consistently putting up these low scoring games, 2 today, is somewhat worriesome. No matter how great of a passer he is he's going to need to be able to score here, at least a little, to keep defenses honest.


Navarro, Morris, Lorbek, Lakovic, Mickeal, Vazquez...many players.

Its main duty is to distribute the play, give assistances and defend, at the moment is doing well. In Europe it is very difficult to get 20 points in a big team, because there are many good scorers, and each possession is a slate play, there are very few individual moves, plus the fact that Ricky is not a scorer, as the statistical scoring is what it is.
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Post#1240 » by Vin20 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:44 pm

It's quite strange that Ricky doesn't score like 15-20pts against Real Madrid. Actually, I think it's the first time that Ricky makes a "normal game" against Madrid.

He played good and that's all. He almosts broke Navarro's nose and stealed a ball with the head (that was actually pretty funny :lol: ).

Anyways, he only shot 3 times. He played a lot of time with Navarro, who was on fire today and shooting everytime he received the ball. It was a bit hard for Ricky to be noticed. Actually, there have been some actions where Ricky could have scored but he decided to pass... as always. He needs to be more selfish.
When I finish a game, they ask me "how did it go? how many points did you score?", when the real question should be "what have you done today to help your team win?". - Ricky Rubio.
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Post#1241 » by shangrila » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:43 pm

jpatrick wrote:I know it's not his role to score for Barcelona but him consistently putting up these low scoring games, 2 today, is somewhat worriesome. No matter how great of a passer he is he's going to need to be able to score here, at least a little, to keep defenses honest.

I wouldn't be that concerned. When Navarro was out he stepped up his scoring, so he can do it when he needs to. He'll definitely need to develop a shot to keep the defence honest though.
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Post#1242 » by Jukapuka » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:45 pm

GopherIt! wrote:my post got deleted. damn u thought police, damn u to hell!

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Since you don't have any OT in here, from which movie is this picture?
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Post#1243 » by Piecake » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:50 pm

Jukapuka wrote:
GopherIt! wrote:my post got deleted. damn u thought police, damn u to hell!

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Since you don't have any OT in here, from which movie is this picture?


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Post#1244 » by eToasT » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:31 am

planet of the apes with heston correct?
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Post#1245 » by lobishome » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:38 am

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Post#1246 » by Vin20 » Sun Jan 2, 2011 1:25 pm

Barça won 63-65 against Bilbao in a very difficult game.

Ricky 9pts (4-9 FG), 6reb, 2ast, 1stl, 0to in 28min
http://jornadavirtual.acb.com/htm/estad ... est122.htm

By the way... have you read that article saying that Rubio said he'll come if there is no lockout? Can we believe that? :roll:
When I finish a game, they ask me "how did it go? how many points did you score?", when the real question should be "what have you done today to help your team win?". - Ricky Rubio.
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Post#1247 » by Foye » Sun Jan 2, 2011 1:34 pm

Vin20 wrote:Barça won 63-65 against Bilbao in a very difficult game.

Ricky 9pts (4-9 FG), 6reb, 2ast, 1stl, 0to in 28min
http://jornadavirtual.acb.com/htm/estad ... est122.htm

By the way... have you read that article saying that Rubio said he'll come if there is no lockout? Can we believe that? :roll:


Sadly, there will be a lockout. That means he'll get here in 2012 and if I remember correctly he'll get more than the Rookie salary by then?
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Post#1248 » by lobishome » Sun Jan 2, 2011 3:33 pm

I wait some news from Rubio some time after the King Cup, middle Feb, because both Barcelona and Minnesota will ask him a answer. If his american agent says him the lockout is posible, IMO he will play another year here. It's the logic choice.

But his salary in 2012 will be determinated for the new collective agrement, not for the current.

Good match today for him. 28:41 min, 0 fouls, 0 turnovers. A boy from MInnesota saved us.
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Post#1249 » by Piecake » Sun Jan 2, 2011 3:40 pm

lobishome wrote:I wait some news from Rubio some time after the King Cup, middle Feb, because both Barcelona and Minnesota will ask him a answer. If his american agent says him the lockout is posible, IMO he will play another year here. It's the logic choice.

But his salary in 2012 will be determinated for the new collective agrement, not for the current.

Good match today for him. 28:41 min, 0 fouls, 0 turnovers. A boy from MInnesota saved us.


Will his buyout be further reduced though? Because currently, I think he would still have to pay 500K of it since NBA teams can only pay 500K in a player buy out. I dont think that would make up for the lost salary if the lockout happens though
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Post#1250 » by lobishome » Sun Jan 2, 2011 3:56 pm

Piecake wrote:Will his buyout be further reduced though? Because currently, I think he would still have to pay 500K of it since NBA teams can only pay 500K in a player buy out. I dont think that would make up for the lost salary if the lockout happens though

I talk about his scale salary after three years without sign after the draft. The buyout is written in his Barcelona contract, and the Minnesota (or any team) money is something accorded between NBA and FIBA.

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