Free Agency

[Dewey]

Good sign we are going after a SG ... we "need" a legit SG and I believe the team clearly wants to add a veteran at this position - starter or not.

Wes could easily be traded or moved to SF ... the latter would signal a second deal with either Beasley or Williams. Hard to know how much push Aelman might have for Crawford to join this Wolves roster. I'm not sure what the real market is for these 3, but at some point we have to know what we need back that will help us win - This is Adelmans most critical role if we indeed go this route prior to the start of the season.

Stealing Jordan from LAC would be a nice fit for this squad, but I don't see this happening at all.

[moss_is_1]

Assuming we dump some salary somehow and have $11.5 mil in cap space AND DeAndre Jordan is our target, I would suggest something like this:
$11.5
$10.5
$9.5
$8.5
$32 mil signing bonus.

Teams are limited to 20% of total value of contract in a signing bonus. For a 4/40 deal that is 8 million $. And I don't think a guy with at least 5 suitors is going to take a decreasing contract on the open market.

There haven't been this many teams with caproom (due to the amnesty) in many years, and offers are going to get crazy.

I wonder....could we somehow jack the money in his deal in the 2nd year? Next offseason LAC is going to want to go hard after Dwight/Cp3/Deron...if we were to have the 2nd year be more then the others maybe they'd be hesitant to match? I know under the old CBA you couldn't really do much, but maybe it's possible under this one?

[moss_is_1]

Did anyone post this?
saw it over on rubechat...espn insider.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story?id ... ree-agency

Possible moves: The Wolves have mild interest in Shane Battier, who even at 33 would be an upgrade defensively. President of basketball operations David Kahn says not to expect much activity from them. However, a source with close to the team said it will deal Michael Beasley, who was arrested for marijuana possession this summer. Despite his character questions, he's talented enough to bring a steady veteran in a trade. The expected development of Williams makes Beasley even more expendable.

Interesting...

[Yes We Kahn]

^ Really depends on what "steady veteran" it means. I am very not really prepared to give up on Beas yet. Especially with what I have heard about his off-season. Who is to say DWill will even be able to hold down the 3? I think he is even more of a 4 than Beas. I'd rather keep them both at least until the trade deadline unless something really enticing is offered prior to the season.

[wildvikeswolves]

^ Really depends on what "steady veteran" it means. I am very not really prepared to give up on Beas yet. Especially with what I have heard about his off-season. Who is to say DWill will even be able to hold down the 3? I think he is even more of a 4 than Beas. I'd rather keep them both at least until the trade deadline unless something really enticing is offered prior to the season.

same. Im looking forward to seeing how Beasley plays this year after losing the weight that he did, and is now healthy

[shrink]

Waiting until the deadline would be what I'd recommend too.

Before his injuries, Beasley was putting up numbers better than Danny Granger. I expect that he will keep his nose clean under Adelman, and his value will rise. I think we could get something better than a "steady veteran" at the trade deadline, when the hectic schedule starts creating injuries in teams that want to win now.

[Dewey]

Beas is a chump until he proves otherwise ... then if/when he does, we will trade him.

[younggunsmn]

Yeah, I think since the arrest the writing's been on the wall that beasley is the odd man out due to the roster clutter. Adelman stresses ball movement, not exactly beasley's strong suit.

That said I don't know what we can get for him. The bobcats have had interest in him in the past. Don't know if they'd be willing to offer Biyombo for him. They will have the cap space to take him straight up for a draft pick though.

His trade value is low now, I don't know that it will rise by the trade deadline because he also gets closer to the end of his rookie deal. If he plays well enough to significantly bump up his trade value we will probably want to keep him anyway.

[Hoopin Harm]

I'm willing to give Wes a mulligan for last year due to the way Rambis jerked him around and didn't run any plays for him. With a real coach like Adelman Wes will hopefully have a chance to thrive.

And that won't be near enough money for Afflalo, regardless of what he's actually worth, with so many teams after him. I still wouldn't trade Wes for him in a S/T. I'd make them match an offer sheet or offer our memphis pick. they have a good deal less leverage in a s/t than if he was still under contract.

I threw the #'s out there to start discussion -- what do you think top bidder gets it done? 4-yr, $36 mm?

I don't want Afflalo at that price. Anything more than $7 mil and he has a negative value.
As for the trade, no way. Denver simply doesn't have any leverage.

Don't disagree -- $7 mm / per year seems about right.

[shangrila]

Yeah, I think since the arrest the writing's been on the wall that beasley is the odd man out due to the roster clutter. Adelman stresses ball movement, not exactly beasley's strong suit.

A few things;

1. The arrest came after the draft. If he's the odd man out due to roster clutter, shouldn't that have always been the case?

2. Beas isn't the only one whose strong suit isn't ball movement. Williams, Johnson, Randolph, Webster, Darko, Pekovic, etc, etc, all struggle with that. So that's both the reason they've hired Adelman and not something you can call him out for as an individual, because honestly he's about as prepared for this system as everyone else not named Love and maybe Ridnour.

[Narf]

I like Beas as a 6th man personally. But I do think he's the odd man out. We aren't going to want to resign him next year for what he'll command via free agency. If we can get a valuable piece that fits our team better, I say do it.

[shangrila]

I'll wait and see what Nick Young gets before I start thinking Beas will get a big pay day. Hopefully he's better than Young but, if he stays roughly the same this season, I think Young will be the bench mark for a young, inefficient scorer.

[wolves_fan_82au]

i would rather see if we can get a beasley/filler for Prince/1st going either that or take hamilton

[shrink]

The Clippers offered 5 years, $40 mil for Deandre Jordan, and that doesn't seem to excessive to me for a big. With a standard 7.5% raise, it looks like this: $6.9, $7.4, $8.0, $8.6, $9.2.

$8 mil/yr for five years

Anyone willing to offer $9 mil/yr for four years?

[phonzadellika]

I think for the Wolves 9mil is reasonable...we'll probably have to overpay for a center anyway and Jordan could be a good fit next to Love. Probably the only feasible move we could make this off-season that would make sense. Other than I just want to see how the team rolls until the trade deadline.

[Esohny]

The Clippers offered 5 years, $40 mil for Deandre Jordan, and that doesn't seem to excessive to me for a big. With a standard 7.5% raise, it looks like this: $6.9, $7.4, $8.0, $8.6, $9.2.

$8 mil/yr for five years

Anyone willing to offer $9 mil/yr for four years?

I would, but I don't think that the Wolves will.

[Peezo]

Better question is would he even accept 4 years at 9 mil? I mean he becomes a FA faster but he is also leaving money on the table to play with a worse team. I'd like to think the allure of more money right away might be enough, but maybe he'll say, "I'd take only and extra 4 mil to play 5 years in sunny LA over 4 years in snowy Minnesota."

I'd like to think I'd pony up the money... I'm just not sure. That would be a real swing that I just don't think this organization is ready to make. If we whiff and he doesn't progress any further, we'd have our first bad contract. I am a believer that the kid is good and getting better though. So ultimately, I'd offer 36 mil for 4 years (9 per) and just hope he'd see Love as akin to Blake.

Then Ricky could turn him into the kind of dunking machine that Tyson Chandler when he played with Chris Paul.

[Krapinsky]

The Clippers offered 5 years, $40 mil for Deandre Jordan, and that doesn't seem to excessive to me for a big. With a standard 7.5% raise, it looks like this: $6.9, $7.4, $8.0, $8.6, $9.2.

$8 mil/yr for five years

Anyone willing to offer $9 mil/yr for four years?

I'd be willing, but I'm pretty sure LAC's initial offer is a pretty good indication that they would match it. We'd probably have to go 41-42/4 just to make them blink. Something like 11/10.5/10/9.5. I'm not sure I want to do that.

[Wolves21]

I would love to have Jordan on this team but I highly doubt that the Clippers are going to let him get away,just like the same case will be for Gasol and Afflalo.

I just want my Wolves to pick up somebody that can help out at the Center spot(Chuck Hayes) and someone at SG as a backup.

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet but sense Rick is our coach now why not try and pick up one of his old veteran players that has a ton of expericnce in the playoffs and who actually has a ring in Peja Stojakovic.We could get him probably on the cheap and he would be a good back up to Johnson whom can still get you 10-12 PPG a night.

[Klomp]

JerryZgoda Jerry Zgoda
Wolves inquired about UFA Von Wafer, but his agent says other teams have shown more interest. Wolves waiting for other FA dominos to fall

JerryZgoda Jerry Zgoda
Von Wafer's agent says his client is interested in Wolves because of his success w/ Adelman in Hous & that relationship & "comfort level"