Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season

[theGreatRC]

PPretend youre Adelman. List the top 5 guys he writes down on a list of players for Kahn to get.

[MoMM]

Would you be interested in Jason Richardon?

[AQuintus]

apparently it is, yes. him and iggy i believe would complement each other extremely well on the wings i believe...they could cross match to put iggy on the bigger threat every night so martins defense would be less of a factor. martin gets the majority off his offense off the ball while iggy is more of an on the ball guy who is a good ball handler and passer who might be a slightly inconsistent scorer but could, along with ricky, get martin a bunch of good looks. imagine kevin martin running people off pek screens. that would be a really good off season if we came away with those two.

Iggy and Martin together would cost 27 million dollars next year. Along with Love's new contract, we'd be spending about 2/3 of our cap space on 3 players. I'm not sure that there's much of a chance that we'd take on either considering their salaries. I don't think that there's any reason that we take on both.

[Grits n Gravy]

apparently it is, yes. him and iggy i believe would complement each other extremely well on the wings i believe...they could cross match to put iggy on the bigger threat every night so martins defense would be less of a factor. martin gets the majority off his offense off the ball while iggy is more of an on the ball guy who is a good ball handler and passer who might be a slightly inconsistent scorer but could, along with ricky, get martin a bunch of good looks. imagine kevin martin running people off pek screens. that would be a really good off season if we came away with those two.

Iggy and Martin together would cost 27 million dollars next year. Along with Love's new contract, we'd be spending about 2/3 of our cap space on 3 players. I'm not sure that there's much of a chance that we'd take on either considering their salaries. I don't think that there's any reason that we take on both.

you might be right but an example is memphis...they have basically 3 max guys and conley earning 8/9 million per, it'll be interesting what they now do with mayo...if we're not willing to spend then we'll never compete....martin would be expiring next year so who knows he might wanna stick around and come at a cheaper price tag....so long as he came dirt cheap or extended at a good price i'd be ok going after him.

[Klomp]

I want nothing to do with Kevin Martin...unless he's an absolute last resort. Rocket's fans hate the guy and we don't need to add someone who plays crappy defense and can't dribble for our SG.

They hate the guy as their #1 option. Here, he'd be the #2 or #3 option.

I wouldn't mind him as a second or third option, but isn't his defense horrible?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlJSAu5q7Vw[/youtube]

[cpfsf]

Would you be interested in Jason Richardon?

3 years is a lot of commitment for a guy who will be 34 when his contract ends. Minnesota can find a lot of cheaper alternatives like Jamal Crawford, so I’d consider this after all options are exhausted because I have no doubt Jason Richardson would perform better with the Timberwolves than he has with the Magic (no offense). My offer would be an expiring contract in the form of Darko Milicic only because we get virtually no production from him. I’m pretty confident you would have no problem buying Milicic out, but I’m still on the fence on this one.

And if you want to punish Howard for being a bad man, we’ll take him off your hands.

[shangrila]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlJSAu5q7Vw[/youtube]

What's the point of showing this video? It's not like he's going to openly admit he's just a terrible defender no matter what coach he's playing for.

Also, he's ranked 384th defensively on synergy. So I'd say he's lying out his butt in that video.

[Klomp]

Also, he's ranked 384th defensively on synergy. So I'd say he's lying out his butt in that video.

If we were getting him to be a lockdown defender, I would pass obviously. But he is an elite scorer. We'd be likely to pair him with someone (like Ariza, for example) who can be our top wing defender.


BTW heres some more good quotes from Martin:

My offensive game is where it is today because of Brad Miller. The way he and Rick taught me how to cut and things like that made me so much better. The last three years in Sacramento, it was all, like, one-on-one. Now I'm back in a system where I can cut.

Rick's system is all about read-and-react. When you're young and watching film, you like to watch a couple of guys who you're modeling your game after, and mine was always Rip Hamilton. I always looked at how he came off screens. That's where my shooting and curling evolved. That was my bread and butter my first three years. Then I moved on to other things. Playing with Brad, he's the one who taught me how to cut at the right time -- not cut too early. When I started doing more iso stuff, I watched film of [Dwyane] Wade iso situations. You put all this together and that's how you become a more complete player.

With Brad and me, it was always on the court. And I also got a chance to watch him and Peja [Stojakovic] play a lot my first year because I didn't really play too much. He and Peja had a great connection. I knew I was a lot quicker and had a lot more agility than Peja. So at the beginning, I would always do everything so fast. I'd be too fast before the cut, during the cut, after the cut. Brad would say, "Slow down! You're faster than everybody out here, but you have to read it!" He showed me the ins and outs of making those cuts and reads -- when to come around. Like when a guy plays under you, come around and take the jumper. And when a guy is playing you tight, you just go back door. Brad taught me how to play.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... complaints

[shangrila]

I'm not saying don't go after him, but you posted that video in response to someone asking if his defence was horrible. If his defence IS horrible, then what was the point of the video?

[Vindicater]

I would rather go after Ray Allen, despite his age, than Kevin Martin.

I would love to come out of the offseason with Iggy and Ray Ray.

Oh man, not going to happen but I would love it.

[jade_hippo]

I would rather go after Ray Allen, despite his age, than Kevin Martin.

I would love to come out of the offseason with Iggy and Ray Ray.

Oh man, not going to happen but I would love it.

how many teams not named Raptor or Bobcat can offer a starting SG position, next to no competition, and more than the vet minimum?

[MoMM]

Would you be interested in Jason Richardon?

3 years is a lot of commitment for a guy who will be 34 when his contract ends. Minnesota can find a lot of cheaper alternatives like Jamal Crawford, so I’d consider this after all options are exhausted because I have no doubt Jason Richardson would perform better with the Timberwolves than he has with the Magic (no offense). My offer would be an expiring contract in the form of Darko Milicic only because we get virtually no production from him. I’m pretty confident you would have no problem buying Milicic out, but I’m still on the fence on this one.

And if you want to punish Howard for being a bad man, we’ll take him off your hands.

I think we would accept a Darko for Jrich deal. I also think that Jrich would play better for you than us, because you have a great PG.

BTW, do you intend to re-sign Beasley?

[Esohny]

I would rather go after Ray Allen, despite his age, than Kevin Martin.

I would love to come out of the offseason with Iggy and Ray Ray.

Oh man, not going to happen but I would love it.

how many teams not named Raptor or Bobcat can offer a starting SG position, next to no competition, and more than the vet minimum?

I'm sure that playing on a contender means quite a bit to Allen at this point.

[NewWolvesOrder]

I'm starting to like J-Rich if he's available just for Darko. He was playing good ball next to Nash so maybe Ricky will make him look good again. Add Iguodala via a reasonable trade and we'll be covered on the wings. Draft some young SGs and SFs in the next couple of drafts to let them grow behind Iggy and J-Rich until they're ready to step up into SL next to our core of RR,KL & Pek.

[Ndudi and Pooh]

Hey all, new to this board, big time TWolf fan.

My gut is that Adelman is going to lobby hard for the kind of rosters he won with in Portland and Sacramento (depth, offensive versatility, one or two defenders). When he talks about a "very aggressive" off season I don't anticipate multiple blockbusters... I perceive the addition of some veteran perimeter scoring and a defensive specialist.

Luc Richard Mbah Moute is an elite defender, but Milwaukee's front office is in disarray and I think he could be had for Darko. They absolutely need a rebounder and rim protector. Darko is a poor man's Bogut, whose departure sent them in to a free fall.

Ray Allen and Carlos Delfino are both veteran wings that can be had without breaking the bank. Both move without the ball, space the floor, play token D, have a little pop left to contribute as bench guys. I believe Novak will be a FA (not sure about that).

Barrea, Webster, Wes Johnson... I think all would have moderate appeal to a few other teams. I don't see any of the three starting on the Wolves when they win a title. It might be too early to give up on Wes, the other two are what they are at this point.

The key is to only bring in guys that understand that Kevin and Ricky are the cornerstones here. Both are absolutely good enough to build a title team around. Adelman is the perfect coach for those two. Derrick Williams is a wild card, the ace in the sleeve. He could blow up and be our third all star. Or he could sputter and still hold enough trade value to land us some significant pieces in a trade.

[Devilzsidewalk]

ndudi and pooh

[Esohny]

It's a thinker, it is.

[cpfsf]

BTW, do you intend to re-sign Beasley?

Minnesota has a bit of a logjam at forward and has much bigger needs at guard. While I wouldn't be entirely opposed to re-signing him, I'm sure other teams will offer more.

[Devilzsidewalk]

we need to establish a quality, veteran core. I think that's where we went wrong bringing in all these guys like Darko, Beasley, and Randolph. There was no entrenched on-court system and off-court culture to rein in their bad habits and support the good ones. Maybe in 3 or 4 years we'll have that, but right now, Beasley isn't likely to find his game with this team. Its still in the petri dish phase. He'd have better luck on a team like the Spurs.

[Ndudi and Pooh]

Devil, I hear what you are saying but I think the one thing better than an "established veteran core" is a "young established core." Ricky is going to be here for a long time. Kevin is going to be here for a long time. Derrick is either going to be a star SF or be traded for one. Now its time to fill in the rest of the roster with impact guys. The Bobby Jackson 6th man type. The Doug Christie fringe starter. The veteran with a little magic left (aka Vlade with the Kings).

I mean... I would hate to trade promise and value for age and experience... because you can get age and experience for free (over time) and time seems to be something we have here.