Nemanja Bjelica

[LedeniZZZ]

http://www.nbaserbia.com/vesti/11063/nemanja-bjelica-idol-mi-je-ajverson-nosim-88-zato-sto-foto

"Osmica je moj broj. Nosim ga cele karijere. Kada su mi objasnili da je zauzeta, rekao sam onda je duplirajte"

"Eight is my number. I wear it my whole career. When they explained to me that it was taken, then I said double it. "


As for that Milicic Nazi/Chetnic story. Chetnics were 1st liberation movement in Yugoslavia AGAINST Nazist (it was costituted from Serbs mostly... there were also many Muslims but they consider themselfs Serbs... they fought for King (Yugoslavia was kindom back then) and Yugoslavia... and greather Serbia within Yugoslavia). First liberated territory in Europe was under Mihajlovic https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Датотека:Jvuo1942_sr.png . Allies decided to cut help to chetnicks and when they gave the support to partizan movement (they were communist, they were mostly Serbs, but also from other nations especially at the end of the war), and because they were active at Serbs regions (chetnicks) and Nazist had laws to kill 100 Serbs for any German soldier and 50 for any wunded one. They could let all that people die (most historics will tell you that Yugoslavia lost 1-1.7m people in II world war, majority were Serbs). That is why Chetnics colaborated with Nazist (especially Italians, because they were weaker unlike Germans). After partizan movement won they equalized ustasha (Croatians, real fashist) and chetnicks (antifasisht movement who colaborated few times with fashist because of the situation). In Yugoslavia they punished chetnicks not only because of that... but because they were Serb nacionalist. All in all... Chetnicks commited the least amount of war crimes during world war II. Today in Serbia, after communism, chetnics have same rights as fighters in world war II as partizans.
But in media in former Yugoslavia, and western country chetnick as still used as negative stereotipe for Serb nacionalist.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nU520PLLGXg/Tbiojfmfv2I/AAAAAAAACIg/nSHRWRgWlfI/s1600/Chief+of+the+Chetniks+1.jpg
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1942/1101420525_400.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sh/1/1f/Chetniks_guerillas_poster.jpg
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/reallifepage1.jpg

http://www.pogledi.rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/REAL-HEROES-COMIC-BOOK-COVER-1942.jpg

wanted by Gemans (they offer 100.000 marks in gold for Mihajlovic, dead or alive)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/DMihailovic_poternica.jpg

Mihajlovic was killed shortly after the war after quick trial. Few moths ago he was rehabilitated for that.

The Legion of Merit, awarded to Mihailović by U.S. president Harry Truman.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/DražaLegion_of_Merit.jpg

An no Im not a chetnik, and nobody from my familly also. They were partizans. But this are facts witch nobody seems to know anymore due to massive propaganda.

[FinnTheHuman]

http://www.nbaserbia.com/vesti/11063/nemanja-bjelica-idol-mi-je-ajverson-nosim-88-zato-sto-foto

"Osmica je moj broj. Nosim ga cele karijere. Kada su mi objasnili da je zauzeta, rekao sam onda je duplirajte"

"Eight is my number. I wear it my whole career. When they explained to me that it was taken, then I said double it. "


As for that Milicic Nazi/Chetnic story. Chetnics were 1st liberation movement in Yugoslavia AGAINST Nazist (it was costituted from Serbs mostly... there were also many Muslims but they consider themselfs Serbs... they fought for King (Yugoslavia was kindom back then) and Yugoslavia... and greather Serbia within Yugoslavia). First liberated territory in Europe was under Mihajlovic https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Датотека:Jvuo1942_sr.png . Allies decided to cut help to chetnicks and when they gave the support to partizan movement (they were communist, they were mostly Serbs, but also from other nations especially at the end of the war), and because they were active at Serbs regions (chetnicks) and Nazist had laws to kill 100 Serbs for any German soldier and 50 for any wunded one. They could let all that people die (most historics will tell you that Yugoslavia lost 1-1.7m people in II world war, majority were Serbs). That is why Chetnics colaborated with Nazist (especially Italians, because they were weaker unlike Germans). After partizan movement won they equalized ustasha (Croatians, real fashist) and chetnicks (antifasisht movement who colaborated few times with fashist because of the situation). In Yugoslavia they punished chetnicks not only because of that... but because they were Serb nacionalist. All in all... Chetnicks commited the least amount of war crimes during world war II. Today in Serbia, after communism, chetnics have same rights as fighters in world war II as partizans.
But in media in former Yugoslavia, and western country chetnick as still used as negative stereotipe for Serb nacionalist.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nU520PLLGXg/Tbiojfmfv2I/AAAAAAAACIg/nSHRWRgWlfI/s1600/Chief+of+the+Chetniks+1.jpg
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1942/1101420525_400.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sh/1/1f/Chetniks_guerillas_poster.jpg
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/reallifepage1.jpg

http://www.pogledi.rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/REAL-HEROES-COMIC-BOOK-COVER-1942.jpg

wanted by Gemans (they offer 100.000 marks in gold for Mihajlovic, dead or alive)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/DMihailovic_poternica.jpg

Mihajlovic was killed shortly after the war after quick trial. Few moths ago he was rehabilitated for that.

The Legion of Merit, awarded to Mihailović by U.S. president Harry Truman.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/DražaLegion_of_Merit.jpg

An no Im not a chetnik, and nobody from my familly also. They were partizans. But this are facts witch nobody seems to know anymore due to massive propaganda.

Nope, you've got your logic wrong, and this is coming from a Serb, not a biased guy from the other side like a Croat or an Albanian.

First of all, the government behind the King that the Chetniks were protecting were the guys who signed a pact with the Nazis in the 1941, and the only thing that stopped the pact from coming through were the massive street protests that the pact caused.

So even from the peace period which existed until 1941, the leaders of Chetniks had no problem with the Nazi ideology. The fact that they were the 1st liberation movement is not admirable at all. The only reason they were the 1st liberation movement is because they emerged from the only organized army that existed on the Yugoslavian soil, and the only reason they chose to become a liberation army instead of the simple Nazi collaborators is because the large majority of Serbian citizens were against the Nazis. Of course, that didn't stop them from collaborating with Nazis whenever they could have.

Meanwhile, the Partizans didn't have a single stain in their anti-fascist resume.

If the Chetniks and their political leaders were the ones to choose, we would have been remembered as the Nazi ally scum, which would destroy our historical background and pride.

And the Ustase weren't amnestied, they just fled to South America like all the Nazis, Ante Pavelic was even hunted all the way to Argentina till 1957 where he was heavily wounded, and then he died in Franco's Spain 2 years later because of the wounds.

So yeah, the Chetniks were the almost the same scum as Ustase, not nearly as extreme tho, and they failed to indoctrinate the people, but nothing other than than those two elements make them different.

And Mihajlovic wasn't rehabilitated, it was only ruled that he didn't have a fair trial, but not that he's innocent.

[TheDominator273]

So how is his name supposed to be pronounced?

[Klomp]

So how is his name supposed to be pronounced?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JimPeteHoops/status/621002027179606016[/tweet]

[Feilong]

So how is his name supposed to be pronounced?

Serbian language is one of the easiest languages. Part of it is because you pronounce something exactly as it is written.
If you know how to pronounce a character, you know how to say the word, every word.
So Nemanja Bielica is
N - like english N
E - E (like in pet)
M - M
A - A (like in cat)
N - N
J - like YA in Yahoo
A - A
So Nemanja is like Ne ma n(ya) (accent on Ne)

B - B
I - I (like in kid)
E - E
L - L
I - I
C - ts like in cats
A - A
So Bielica is like Bi el i(ts)a (accent on el)
Just pronounce each character and it is easy.

[Klomp]

So how is his name supposed to be pronounced?

Serbian language is one of the easiest languages. Part of it is because you pronounce something exactly as it is written.
If you know how to pronounce a character, you know how to say the word, every word.
So Nemanja Bielica is
N - like english N
E - E (like in pet)
M - M
A - A (like in cat)
N - N
J - like YA in Yahoo
A - A
So Nemanja is like Ne ma n(ya) (accent on Ne)

B - B
I - I (like in kid)
E - E
L - L
I - I
C - ts like in cats
A - A
So Bielica is like Bi el i(ts)a (accent on el)
Just pronounce each character and it is easy.

Except the second letter of his last name is a J, not an I

[Klomp]

Can hear it straight from the source at 8:55

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WolvesRadio/status/621742935613181952[/tweet]

[Feilong]

Bjelica yes the second is J (my mistake) but it is a minor sound change.
JE sounds like YE in YET
B YE L I TS A


And since we are here.
Pekovic: last letter is written C in English but in Serbian it is Ć (Ć and C are different letters in Serbian alphabet).
C sounds like ts in cats
Ć sounds like ch in chance
so correct is the second one.

[Thespianoid]

NAY-mon-yah

BYELL-ee-tsa (three syllables, not four. Important)

Way simpler and less confusing than whatever Jim Petersen wrote, and probably the most accurate way I can write it for fellow Americans to not butcher it completely. But it's likely commentators around the nation will undoubtedly do so.

[Mattya]

I never understood why the name was hard to pronounce. Must have stuck with me from the first press conference all those years ago.

[Klomp]

Way simpler and less confusing than whatever Jim Petersen wrote

That pronunciation came from the team

[Thespianoid]

Way simpler and less confusing than whatever Jim Petersen wrote

That pronunciation came from the team

I'm not doubting that. Plus, you posted the tweet with the soundcloud link of Bjelica saying his name, so that's all anybody really needs to get an accurate read on how to say his name.

I'm just saying that Jim Petersen's tweet might unnecessarily complicate things when attempting an accurate pronunciation. Mainly because he places the emphasis incorrectly in his first name and adds an extra syllable to his last name.

It might seem nitpicky, but I guess I'm just tired of people butchering easy to pronounce non-English names simply because they overcomplicate the "foreign-ness". Most notably, Giannis Antetokounmpo. If people would realize that it's only the Greek spelling of Adetokunbo that makes the surname seem difficult, commentators wouldn't be butchering it left and right.

[MrTwister]

Tonight's preparation game vs Russia.Nice statline by Bjelica

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/16/13/65/15WNRRT3wTabs/

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

He played great against France yesterday too. Maybe not that stong stats but he played really well. I can't wait to see him in Eurobasket and NBA

[Vindicater]

So do we expect him to play 15 minutes per game over the season? More less?

[C.lupus]

I'm expecting more.

[Klomp]

Based on the lack of other reliable options behind Garnett, I think he'll average closer to 20 over the season. Maybe more, depending on how many times he has to spot start.

[Dleavitt24]

What's is PD?

[Klomp]

What's is PD?

Assists (exact translation they use is Passes Decisives)

[Calinks]

I think he will be a major part of this team this season.