Minnesota Timberwolves Cap Space Reference Chart

[PharmD]

Did we really stretch KMart? Wow, what a dumb move if so. Hoopshype had his whole salary on our cap last year.

[Killboard]

I wonder if those nefarious Trail Blazers have it in their mind to troll us and sign Pek in the future to get back at us for signing Brandon Roy and costing them all that money 5 years ago.

If I remember right Portland lost the insurance which covered Roy money after retirement, but Roy contract didnt count against the cap. If that is the case, is Taylor money, not wolves.

[shrink]

Did we really stretch KMart? Wow, what a dumb move if so. Hoopshype had his whole salary on our cap last year.

I agree. He will take a $1.36 mil nibble from our cap this year. next year, and in 2018-19 as well.

We didn't know if we needed the cap space at the start of the season, but it turns out we could have eaten the whole $4 mil this year and had him off the books. Instead. we divided up by 3 [(one remaining year x 2) + 1]

[andyhop]

I wonder if those nefarious Trail Blazers have it in their mind to troll us and sign Pek in the future to get back at us for signing Brandon Roy and costing them all that money 5 years ago.

If I remember right Portland lost the insurance which covered Roy money after retirement, but Roy contract didnt count against the cap. If that is the case, is Taylor money, not wolves.

That was due to them amnestying him rather than medically retiring him, it cost Portland $17m which was the partial insurance on his deal for permanent disability.

The new CBA has a provision to stop teams having to worry about things like this where if a panel decide someone is permanently finished due to injury then their salary is gone from the teams cap even if they come back in the future

[Smitty731]

Not sure if you guys need another link to salary info, but mine is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T2Eg_zvqNqQD_5TpE4Ns6xhElatXdLpYG1roZtRLyvE/edit?usp=sharing

I try to keep it updated at least once a week. More often in the offseason around the Draft, FA, etc.

[Klomp]

I have updated the first post with what I have to be our updated salary cap situation entering the draft.

Spoiler:

Current Salaries
Ricky Rubio - $14,250,000 / $14,950,000
Gorgui Dieng - $14,112,360 / $15,170,787 / $16,229,213 / $17,287,640
Andrew Wiggins - $7,574,323 / $9,846,619 (QuO)
Cole Aldrich - $7,300,000 / $6,956,021 ($2m guar.)
Karl-Anthony Towns - $6,216,840 / $7,839,435 (TO) / $10,191,266 (QuO)
Jordan Hill - $4,180,000 (UnG)
Kris Dunn - $4,046,760 / $4,221,000 (TO) / $5,348,007 (TO) / $7,091,457 (QuO)
Nemanja Bjelica - $3,949,999 / $4,937,499 (QuO)
Zach LaVine - $3,202,218 / $4,428,667 (QuO)
Tyus Jones - $1,397,400 / $5,703,600 (TO) / $5,703,600 (QuO)

Salary Cap Holds and Exceptions
Shabazz Muhammad - $7,615,748 (RFA, Bird)
Brandon Rush - $4,200,000 (UFA, non-Bird)
Adreian Payne - $3,100,094 (UFA, limited Bird)
Omri Casspi - $1,471,382 (UFA, non-Bird)
Kevin Martin - $1,380,305 / $1,380,305 (stretched)
Roster Hold - $562,493
Roster Hold - $562,493

Total Salaries: $66,229,900 (10 contracts)
Total Exceptions/Holds: $18,892,515
2017-18 Cap Number: $85,122,415

Total Cap Space: $16,877,585
Luxury Tax Space: $36,877,585

Note: Hill's contract would become guaranteed if he's still on the roster 10 days from now.

[wolves_89]

Not sure if you guys need another link to salary info, but mine is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T2Eg_zvqNqQD_5TpE4Ns6xhElatXdLpYG1roZtRLyvE/edit?usp=sharing

I try to keep it updated at least once a week. More often in the offseason around the Draft, FA, etc.

Thanks for keeping the info current. I did have one minor question on the current spreadsheet. For the Wolves projected cap space the cap hold for Omri Casspi is included and I was wondering why?

[Klomp]

Thanks for keeping the info current. I did have one minor question on the current spreadsheet. For the Wolves projected cap space the cap hold for Omri Casspi is included and I was wondering why?

Why wouldn't it be? He ended the year on the roster.

[wolves_89]

Thanks for keeping the info current. I did have one minor question on the current spreadsheet. For the Wolves projected cap space the cap hold for Omri Casspi is included and I was wondering why?

Why wouldn't it be? He ended the year on the roster.

I assume the project cap space takes into account players that have a reasonable chance of returning. I noticed guys like Rush and Payne aren't included when the spreadsheet calculates projected cap space so I was wondering why Casspi was. Even if the Wolves did want to resign Casspi they would have to use cap space so it makes sense they would waive the cap hold before free agency (thus he wouldn't be part of the projected cap space).

[Klomp]

Thanks for keeping the info current. I did have one minor question on the current spreadsheet. For the Wolves projected cap space the cap hold for Omri Casspi is included and I was wondering why?

Why wouldn't it be? He ended the year on the roster.

I assume the project cap space takes into account players that have a reasonable chance of returning. I noticed guys like Rush and Payne aren't included when the spreadsheet calculates projected cap space so I was wondering why Casspi was. Even if the Wolves did want to resign Casspi they would have to use cap space so it makes sense they would waive the cap hold before free agency (thus he wouldn't be part of the projected cap space).

Oh I see what happened. He grabbed the wrong contract. He meant to put Tyus in the projected cap space, not Casspi.

[Smitty731]

Why wouldn't it be? He ended the year on the roster.

I assume the project cap space takes into account players that have a reasonable chance of returning. I noticed guys like Rush and Payne aren't included when the spreadsheet calculates projected cap space so I was wondering why Casspi was. Even if the Wolves did want to resign Casspi they would have to use cap space so it makes sense they would waive the cap hold before free agency (thus he wouldn't be part of the projected cap space).

Oh I see what happened. He grabbed the wrong contract. He meant to put Tyus in the projected cap space, not Casspi.

Nope. Tyus Jones is in the top section, because his deal is fully guaranteed.

I have them keeping rights on Casspi, because they might as well. If they need the space, they'll move on easily. But the chances of needing $1.5M are fairly low.

[Klomp]

Nope. Tyus Jones is in the top section, because his deal is fully guaranteed.

I have them keeping rights on Casspi, because they might as well. If they need the space, they'll move on easily. But the chances of needing $1.5M are fairly low.

Oh, I didn't scroll down. I see what he was talking about now. But anyways it looks like you have Casspi's cap hold as Jones' guaranteed money.

[Smitty731]

That is the guaranteed money section. That is Jones guaranteed salary for 17-18. Scroll down further and you fill find Casspi under cap holds.

[wolves_89]

I assume the project cap space takes into account players that have a reasonable chance of returning. I noticed guys like Rush and Payne aren't included when the spreadsheet calculates projected cap space so I was wondering why Casspi was. Even if the Wolves did want to resign Casspi they would have to use cap space so it makes sense they would waive the cap hold before free agency (thus he wouldn't be part of the projected cap space).

Oh I see what happened. He grabbed the wrong contract. He meant to put Tyus in the projected cap space, not Casspi.

Nope. Tyus Jones is in the top section, because his deal is fully guaranteed.

I have them keeping rights on Casspi, because they might as well. If they need the space, they'll move on easily. But the chances of needing $1.5M are fairly low.

It's a fairly minor thing, I just like being able to look at your spreadsheet and know the projected cap space is an accurate representation of what is realistically available.

I'm really hoping that every dollar will matter in free agency for the Wolves this off-season.

[Smitty731]

Oh I see what happened. He grabbed the wrong contract. He meant to put Tyus in the projected cap space, not Casspi.

Nope. Tyus Jones is in the top section, because his deal is fully guaranteed.

I have them keeping rights on Casspi, because they might as well. If they need the space, they'll move on easily. But the chances of needing $1.5M are fairly low.

It's a fairly minor thing, I just like being able to look at your spreadsheet and know the projected cap space is an accurate representation of what is realistically available.

I promise I'm not trying to be snide or snarky (the internet you know!), but that is my projection. I don't think they will renounce Casspi until they have to, so I think they'll hang on to him. What is realistically available is probably dumping everything but the pick and Muhammad.

[wolves_89]

Nope. Tyus Jones is in the top section, because his deal is fully guaranteed.

I have them keeping rights on Casspi, because they might as well. If they need the space, they'll move on easily. But the chances of needing $1.5M are fairly low.

It's a fairly minor thing, I just like being able to look at your spreadsheet and know the projected cap space is an accurate representation of what is realistically available.

I promise I'm not trying to be snide or snarky (the internet you know!), but that is my projection. I don't think they will renounce Casspi until they have to, so I think they'll hang on to him. What is realistically available is probably dumping everything but the pick and Muhammad.

Fair enough, different assumptions for different people.

[Klomp]

That is the guaranteed money section. That is Jones guaranteed salary for 17-18. Scroll down further and you fill find Casspi under cap holds.

I'm an idiot. I was going of old numbers that must've been wrong.

[Smitty731]

That is the guaranteed money section. That is Jones guaranteed salary for 17-18. Scroll down further and you fill find Casspi under cap holds.

I'm an idiot. I was going of old numbers that must've been wrong.

No worries man! This is all complicated. Big part of why I made my sheets public. Couldn't find what I wanted when I went looking years ago.

[C.lupus]

I have updated the first post with what I have to be our updated salary cap situation entering the draft.

Spoiler:

Current Salaries
Ricky Rubio - $14,250,000 / $14,950,000
Gorgui Dieng - $14,112,360 / $15,170,787 / $16,229,213 / $17,287,640
Andrew Wiggins - $7,574,323 / $9,846,619 (QuO)
Cole Aldrich - $7,300,000 / $6,956,021 ($2m guar.)
Karl-Anthony Towns - $6,216,840 / $7,839,435 (TO) / $10,191,266 (QuO)
Jordan Hill - $4,180,000 (UnG)
Kris Dunn - $4,046,760 / $4,221,000 (TO) / $5,348,007 (TO) / $7,091,457 (QuO)
Nemanja Bjelica - $3,949,999 / $4,937,499 (QuO)
Zach LaVine - $3,202,218 / $4,428,667 (QuO)
Tyus Jones - $1,397,400 / $5,703,600 (TO) / $5,703,600 (QuO)

Salary Cap Holds and Exceptions
Shabazz Muhammad - $7,615,748 (RFA, Bird)
Brandon Rush - $4,200,000 (UFA, non-Bird)
Adreian Payne - $3,100,094 (UFA, limited Bird)
Omri Casspi - $1,471,382 (UFA, non-Bird)
Kevin Martin - $1,380,305 / $1,380,305 (stretched)
Roster Hold - $562,493
Roster Hold - $562,493

Total Salaries: $66,229,900 (10 contracts)
Total Exceptions/Holds: $18,892,515
2017-18 Cap Number: $85,122,415

Total Cap Space: $16,877,585
Luxury Tax Space: $36,877,585

Note: Hill's contract would become guaranteed if he's still on the roster 10 days from now.

Does Pek still count against the cap? If just seen he's waived. Haven't seen written that he was medically retired.

[Klomp]

Does Pek still count against the cap? If just seen he's waived. Haven't seen written that he was medically retired.

I am going a bit off an assumption, but I have to believe if they were going to waive him without the medical retirement, it would've been done a year ago.