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Klomp wrote:frumble wrote:Anyone hearing anything about Heslip getting a training camp invite, or have any thoughts on his chances?
Thanks.
Sounds like he'll be at camp. His chances for a spot will depend on what other moves are made.
He'd be a solid choice for third PG once Barea is gone. However, GR3 is ahead of him in the pecking order of guys to sign.
I'd say right noew his making the team is pretty unlikely. That could change, though.
Klomp wrote:frumble wrote:Anyone hearing anything about Heslip getting a training camp invite, or have any thoughts on his chances?
Thanks.
Sounds like he'll be at camp. His chances for a spot will depend on what other moves are made.
He'd be a solid choice for third PG once Barea is gone. However, GR3 is ahead of him in the pecking order of guys to sign.
I'd say right noew his making the team is pretty unlikely. That could change, though.
Takingbaconback wrote:YaleS wrote:Compound exercises/moves by definition don`t isolate muscles. Also, recovering from a workout is stressing the whole body/neurological, etc/, not only a targeted muscle, espessially when we`re not talking about the so-called bodybuilding 4 sets 20+reps for that pump.
Anyways i don`t question that the guy is a pro, it`s just that training is really studied and pretty much there is no "magic" left. Tons of people know what should be done, it`s just a matter of doing it
I know compound exercise is opposite of isolation. I'm just saying he knows which muscles to group up for maximum gains, and which to isolate. Also bigger muscles can be worked more often than smaller muscles for productive gains so I'm saying he has a bunch of exercise routines that he has that balances it out day to day.
That's somewhat true about all the research but those "ton of people" just rehash the exact same thing. 99% of those are just exercises that we all do in the gym or powerbuilding exercises that people already know of. This guy seems like he knows the muscles very specifically not only from research but from experience (since he is so massive and cut) and is doing his own thing.
I also don't think he is some general trainer who is only familiar with muscles we hear all the time like traps/two heads of biceps/Rhomboids/Teres Major/Glutes but knows the very specific muscles. Even professors say there is an uncertainty of how many muscles are in human body because it is tough to distinguish whether they say it is around 200, 300, or whichever number. With that experience of his own body, I'm sure he knows which grouping of muscles athletes should focus on and all that specific shiz that research can't tell you about. Kinda like trying to develop a preventative mouth coat for cigarettes by breaking all the materials down in a cig, but even with all the information we have about what is in it and what can act against it, it's near impossible to bring everything together cuz of all the synergy and chemical reactions.
I don't know what NBA players do to train, but I assume a vast majority just work with a normal gym. I know NFL pass rushers have very recently begun to train in martial arts to practice hand technique, strength and quickness so it seems like the unorthodox method of training for pros is going to expand.
big3_8_19_21 wrote:Hey, just thought of this! We traded away 2 white guys and a black guy for 3 black guys, plus toss in Mo Williams over JJ Barea (who is Hispanic, but looks white) and we're making some serious strides in dismantling this "whitest team since the 80s" nonsense.
This team has hope! DOWN WITH WHITIE! BLACK POWER! **** THE POLICE!
Saltine wrote:big3_8_19_21 wrote:Hey, just thought of this! We traded away 2 white guys and a black guy for 3 black guys, plus toss in Mo Williams over JJ Barea (who is Hispanic, but looks white) and we're making some serious strides in dismantling this "whitest team since the 80s" nonsense.
This team has hope! DOWN WITH WHITIE! BLACK POWER! **** THE POLICE!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olym ... wer_salute
Nitroglycerin wrote:I like our depth now.
In the NBA its either you have a star or depth
I think the roster is set. And Barea,GR3 and maybe Heslip would be fighting for the last spot
I wouldnt count out the possibility of waiving Hummel
What Im intrigued about is we are playing smallball in the Big Bad West. I think we are the smallest froncourt
Vindicater wrote:Saltine wrote:big3_8_19_21 wrote:Hey, just thought of this! We traded away 2 white guys and a black guy for 3 black guys, plus toss in Mo Williams over JJ Barea (who is Hispanic, but looks white) and we're making some serious strides in dismantling this "whitest team since the 80s" nonsense.
This team has hope! DOWN WITH WHITIE! BLACK POWER! **** THE POLICE!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olym ... wer_salute
Off topic but you realise that's not a black power protest right? It is for human rights. The Australian Peter Norman was also apart of it because like the two black guys (Smith is the gold medal winner, can't remember the bronze medalist's name) he was wearing a human rights patch and spoke about human rights as well. In fact the Australian guy was not allowed to represent Australia at the next Olympics because of this.
Vindicater wrote:
Off topic but you realise that's not a black power protest right? It is for human rights. The Australian Peter Norman was also apart of it because like the two black guys (Smith is the gold medal winner, can't remember the bronze medalist's name) he was wearing a human rights patch and spoke about human rights as well. In fact the Australian guy was not allowed to represent Australia at the next Olympics because of this.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Saltine wrote:Bazz is now a backup PF
Wiggy and Kmart start
Brewer and Bud back them up
Zach gets in where he can at the 1 or 2 .
?
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
kmgarnett21 wrote:In all honesty, I'd rather keep Heslip and trade/cut/amnesty Barea. Dead serious. Heslip is an assassin from beyond the arc, something we desperately need. I'd rather have a one-dimensional shooter like Heslip than hero-ball, no-hustle Barea.
Rubio/Mo/Heslip
Martin/LaVine/Bud
Wiggy/Brewer/GRIII
Young/Bazz/Bennett
Pek/Dieng/Turiaf
YaleS wrote:Takingbaconback wrote:YaleS wrote:Compound exercises/moves by definition don`t isolate muscles. Also, recovering from a workout is stressing the whole body/neurological, etc/, not only a targeted muscle, espessially when we`re not talking about the so-called bodybuilding 4 sets 20+reps for that pump.
Anyways i don`t question that the guy is a pro, it`s just that training is really studied and pretty much there is no "magic" left. Tons of people know what should be done, it`s just a matter of doing it
I know compound exercise is opposite of isolation. I'm just saying he knows which muscles to group up for maximum gains, and which to isolate. Also bigger muscles can be worked more often than smaller muscles for productive gains so I'm saying he has a bunch of exercise routines that he has that balances it out day to day.
That's somewhat true about all the research but those "ton of people" just rehash the exact same thing. 99% of those are just exercises that we all do in the gym or powerbuilding exercises that people already know of. This guy seems like he knows the muscles very specifically not only from research but from experience (since he is so massive and cut) and is doing his own thing.
I also don't think he is some general trainer who is only familiar with muscles we hear all the time like traps/two heads of biceps/Rhomboids/Teres Major/Glutes but knows the very specific muscles. Even professors say there is an uncertainty of how many muscles are in human body because it is tough to distinguish whether they say it is around 200, 300, or whichever number. With that experience of his own body, I'm sure he knows which grouping of muscles athletes should focus on and all that specific shiz that research can't tell you about. Kinda like trying to develop a preventative mouth coat for cigarettes by breaking all the materials down in a cig, but even with all the information we have about what is in it and what can act against it, it's near impossible to bring everything together cuz of all the synergy and chemical reactions.
I don't know what NBA players do to train, but I assume a vast majority just work with a normal gym. I know NFL pass rushers have very recently begun to train in martial arts to practice hand technique, strength and quickness so it seems like the unorthodox method of training for pros is going to expand.
Turns out the magic training they do is running hills, climbing robes and dragging sand bags... and he screams at them to motivate them... and he`s fired from his job. Just lol
Credit to Domejango for the info btw
mercgold3 wrote:kmgarnett21 wrote:In all honesty, I'd rather keep Heslip and trade/cut/amnesty Barea. Dead serious. Heslip is an assassin from beyond the arc, something we desperately need. I'd rather have a one-dimensional shooter like Heslip than hero-ball, no-hustle Barea.
Rubio/Mo/Heslip
Martin/LaVine/Bud
Wiggy/Brewer/GRIII
Young/Bazz/Bennett
Pek/Dieng/Turiaf
I like this rotacion, but i think we are also forgeting that Dieng can play at PF and Turiaf can have minutes also, and if Budinger is healthy, its going to be dificult to chose the rotacion, but Lavine also needs to play, the kid is too good to not have minutes.
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