MN-Philly

[Dewey]

Instead of Thabeet... trade for a veteran version of Thabeet.

Mn sends Miller/Telfair/Gomes to Philly
Philly sends Young/Dalembert to MN

Why for MN? They need youth and athleticism ... Young is both and also becoming a decent scorer. Brewer & Young would be a fantastic duo. They add defensive length inside with Dalembert, and though I'm not a Dalembert guy, he'd serve a purpose and it may be a better option than bombing a pick on Thabeet ... thus, still opportunity for drafting Rubio or Evans, etc...

Why for Philly? Cap flexibility. Dalembert is a player they'd like to move and they've had interest in Miller in the past. Telfair is insurance based on Andre Millers interest to hang around.

[Devilzsidewalk]

that'd be sweet, but Philly can't make that trade if for no other reason than alienating 95% of their fan base

[john2jer]

Dalembert is not only horrible and dumb, he's over-paid. They'd have to add in at least Thad Young, but there's no chance they'd do it.

[Dewey]

Boils down to CAP. The chemistry with Dalembert has been rocky for a couple years ... this could be an out for both of them. Dalembert has already said he'd be willing to move on if the FO felt it was best.

Draft-pick/Brewer/Young/Jefferson/Dalembert
Brown/Foye/Carney/Cardinal/Smith/Love/Maddog

[john2jer]

But that would require a team wanting him. I can't see the Wolves wanting to blow their load on someone so terrible and over-paid.

[Devilzsidewalk]

it'd be worth using the cap on Daly if we got Young too. I think .

[Dewey]

Wolves lose some CAP flexibility for a year, but ...
We dump Gomes multi-year deal (not a bad one, but it's $$ gone)
We add a very good SF in Young
We get rid of Telfair - horrible.
We keep our draft status and focus on PG/SG

Philly get 3 smaller pieces to deal with including Millers last year/expiring

[Esohny]

Young is not nearly enough to take on Dalembert's dead weight.

[Devilzsidewalk]

it'd be enough for me, I don't think we could find a better player than him in free agency

[Worm Guts]

Absolutely

[shrink]

If you need a way to evaluate it, try not to look at it as whether Young makes up for overpaid Dalembert

Dalembert 12,125,694 13,012,823

T. Young 2,105,400 2,901,241, big money?

... but whether combined, they are worth the money:

Dally + Young = $14.2, $15.9

Honestly, I have to say "no." Dalembert has great physical tools, and if he even had a moderate brain/effort, he'd be fine. Unfortunately, he still gets lost on the court after .. what .. SEVEN years? With all those physical tools, he's put together one good season -- and the warning bells go off because that one season was right before he got paid.

I like T. Young, but I don't think even he can save Dalembert's trade value, and the fact that this would cost us much of our 2010 cap space. In addition, the players we give up are not valueless either.

I'd say no.

[B Calrissian]

it'd be enough for me, I don't think we could find a better player than him in free agency

I agree. But then again I would trade any combination of players on the Wolves not named Love or Jefferson for Young.

[Foye]

I'm torn...young is a nice player who could help us a lot but the dalembert contract is just so horrible...guess I would say no too...

[skorff26]

I'd be all for it, but Philly will not include Young in a salary dump of Dalmbert

[IcemanMN]

I hear you guys, Dalembert is overpaid. What I don't get is, why anyone would want to spend lottery money on Thabeet. Thabeet = Dalembert.

[Dewey]

It's a quirky trade idea, at some point, you do need to pay the piper and/or acquire players who have some proven track record. The draft is more of a crap-shoot than most of us will admit, because it's fun and there's a ton of suspense.

Young has proven he can play. Taking on Dalambert causes some CAP issues for one more year than we've initially planned for. If we say no to this type of deal, we are saying Young (a bird in the hand) and an over-priced center is not worth risking the "possibilities" we could encounter next summer. That's fine, but again, we need to realize Young's value compared to anyone else that may have interest in coming to MN as a free agent.

It's unlikey Philly would do this, but I'd jump on it as a MN fan.

[Devilzsidewalk]

If you need a way to evaluate it, try not to look at it as whether Young makes up for overpaid Dalembert

Dalembert 12,125,694 13,012,823

T. Young 2,105,400 2,901,241, big money?

... but whether combined, they are worth the money:

Dally + Young = $14.2, $15.9

Honestly, I have to say "no." Dalembert has great physical tools, and if he even had a moderate brain/effort, he'd be fine. Unfortunately, he still gets lost on the court after .. what .. SEVEN years? With all those physical tools, he's put together one good season -- and the warning bells go off because that one season was right before he got paid.

I like T. Young, but I don't think even he can save Dalembert's trade value, and the fact that this would cost us much of our 2010 cap space. In addition, the players we give up are not valueless either.

I'd say no.

look at Young's #'s now, talking about 15/5 at age 20. He has great physical tools, defensive potential, offensive potential. He's arguably as good a prospect as anybody in this draft or the last with the exception of Rose.

[PeeDee]

Eh, just wait till the trade deadline and get Iggy from a frustrated Philly team looking to dump salary and gain flexability.