Ohm: Sliding Nets evaluating Lionel Hollins

[jeff1624]

the Nets should only fire Hollins IF:
-they trade Joe for Lance/Henderson/Williams package
-they trade Brook for the Javale McGee/Chandler package
-they can hire Marc Jackson as he's realistically the only better option available on the market IMO

then you'd have a team with:

Dwill
Lance / Henderson
Chandler
KG / Williams
Plums / McGee

with Marc Jackson at the helm would at least be a lock for the playoffs in the Easy IMO

No Mark Jackson. The last thing this team needs is an overzealous pious blowhard.

And while I'm not a fan of Hollins, I think it's ridiculous that he'd be in the hot seat and not Billy f***ing King. Seriously... what does King have on Prokhorov? Did King photograph him having sex with a horse or something? How can someone so bad at his job still have so much security? Man... I hate this stupid organization.

[Paradise]

We lost to Portland by 44, Houston by 35, Denver by 32, Knicks by 30 (three times), Chicago by 30 (on Xmas) all under Jason Kidd. This roster has been dogging it since last year. They didn't buy into anything Kidd preached and it took an injury to Lopez and game winner at OKC for them to wake up and play competitive basketball.

It doesn't matter who coaches. The results will be the same. Now, suddenly Hollins philosophy is worn out? Well, it certainly works in Chicago, It works in Los Angeles under Doc, It works with Pop and it certainly worked two years ago for Hollins. This team is NOT good and the poor play starts and ends with Billy King.

Kidd is thriving in Milwaukee. Do we need Lionel Hollins to take another team to a better start and finish for everyone to stop scapegoating these losers?

And George Karl would've been the next scapegoat. The new narrative would be "old retread who relies on superstars to win".

This roster sucks. Our 'star' big man comes off the bench because he has rebounding, passing and defensive deficiencies. Yet, his only strength is scoring and he scores a combined 12 points in TWO games. Our other 'star' Forward has mentally checked out and he's aging. Even when healthy his production simply isn't elite and Deron is a failure under everybody.

But by all means blame Hollins.

[Albanian Damien]

the Nets should only fire Hollins IF:
-they trade Joe for Lance/Henderson/Williams package
-they trade Brook for the Javale McGee/Chandler package
-they can hire Marc Jackson as he's realistically the only better option available on the market IMO

then you'd have a team with:

Dwill
Lance / Henderson
Chandler
KG / Williams
Plums / McGee

with Marc Jackson at the helm would at least be a lock for the playoffs in the Easy IMO

No Mark Jackson. The last thing this team needs is an overzealous pious blowhard.

And while I'm not a fan of Hollins, I think it's ridiculous that he'd be in the hot seat and not Billy f***ing King. Seriously... what does King have on Prokhorov? Did King photograph him having sex with a horse or something? How can someone so bad at his job still have so much security? Man... I hate this stupid organization.

Well honestly I definitely think Billy King has dirt on Proky. that would actually make a lot of sense. After all I know everyone remembers the scandal over signing AK47 for dirt cheap last year. Perhaps there really was some dirty laundry that King is well aware of and that's why Proky has been so hesitant to fire him.

[Hello Brooklyn]

You have to be a moron to blame Hollins at this point. We have gone through 4 coaches. At some point you have to look at the players you have.

If we had Phil Jackson here do you think this team would be contending?

No.

Were built around mediocre players. Lopez is a second/third option passive type. Johnon's days are over D-Will is the biggest dog I have ever seen in my life.

They are NOT taking this team to the promised land. And we can't even tank because Billy King is an idiot.

Realistically, what can Hollins do? Give him a roster and talented team first.

[MrDollarBills]

We lost to Portland by 44, Houston by 35, Denver by 32, Knicks by 30 (three times), Chicago by 30 (on Xmas) all under Jason Kidd. This roster has been dogging it since last year. They didn't buy into anything Kidd preached and it took an injury to Lopez and game winner at OKC for them to wake up and play competitive basketball.

It doesn't matter who coaches. The results will be the same. Now, suddenly Hollins philosophy is worn out? Well, it certainly works in Chicago, It works in Los Angeles under Doc, It works with Pop and it certainly worked two years ago for Hollins. This team is NOT good and the poor play starts and ends with Billy King.

Kidd is thriving in Milwaukee. Do we need Lionel Hollins to take another team to a better start and finish for everyone to stop scapegoating these losers?

And George Karl would've been the next scapegoat. The new narrative would be "old retread who relies on superstars to win".

This roster sucks. Our 'star' big man comes off the bench because he has rebounding, passing and defensive deficiencies. Yet, his only strength is scoring and he scores a combined 12 points in TWO games. Our other 'star' Forward has mentally checked out and he's aging. Even when healthy his production simply isn't elite and Deron is a failure under everybody.

But by all means blame Hollins.

Yeah. After 4 coaches in three years enough is enough. There were plenty of games where this core went out there and **** the bed, even going back to the first year in Brooklyn. Just flat out terrible performances, and no passion or pride while getting blown off the floor.

Blaming Hollins is flat out dishonesty.

How many bricks have been fired this year by the perimeter guys?

How many games have Lopez, Johnson, and Williams sucked balls in?

When Hollins had guys like Gasol, Randolph, Conley, and Allen, guys who play with some pride and play hard, he had no issues. These guys? Do you think these guys remotely play hard?

Losing by 30 back to back isn't coaching, it's players quitting.

[Prokorov]

"The Brooklyn Nets, increasingly worried about a recent lack of competitiveness, have launched an in-season evaluation of various facets of the team, including new coach Lionel Hollins, according to league sources.

The Nets lost consecutive road games last week to the Los Angeles Clippers and Utah Jazz by 39 and 35 points, respectively, sparking concern within the organization about whether Hollins' message is getting through. It's just the fifth time in NBA history that a team has lost back-to-back games by 35 points or more."

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?stor ... rc=desktop

This franchise is a joke. Nothing else left to say. Hoping Prok sells more than I care to see Lopez shipped or Johnson shipped. Those are just short-terms fixes. This team needs a culture change: starting at the top.

This team lacks talent. Anyone with two eyes can see it, but let's continue to run through coach and after coach and not hold the guy whose run a 2nd franchise into the ground accountable.

What a complete fcking joke. This is legit the most riddiculous thing they've done in a while. pathetic.

We are on our 5th coach in 5 years. and we need to reevaluate the coach 1/2 through his first season? how about you look at the craptastic roster mess you made and fix that instead of just initiating trade talks only to decide to hold off. Jesus christ himself couldnt coach this team to a winning record.

the fixes are so obvious. it is infuriating.

[Prokorov]

I like hollins but this is appropriate IMO....

B2b 30pt blowouts involves more than just players.... The coaches preparation n in game coaching is also to blame

you can only prepare dleaguers and backups and injured players so much.

How exactly was he suppose to pepaare dwill or Johnson to play injured?

how is he supposed to prepare deleagues like brown, darius, jordan, karasev, and bogs?

how is he suppose to prepare career backups like jack to play major minutes

the only real plays he has (mason and KG) are actually playing well

[Prokorov]

the Nets should only fire Hollins IF:
-they trade Joe for Lance/Henderson/Williams package
-they trade Brook for the Javale McGee/Chandler package
-they can hire Marc Jackson as he's realistically the only better option available on the market IMO

then you'd have a team with:

Dwill
Lance / Henderson
Chandler
KG / Williams
Plums / McGee

with Marc Jackson at the helm would at least be a lock for the playoffs in the Easy IMO

i want no part of mark jackson... after talking to scal about him and getting a first hand account he would be a worse mess then anything we have had so far

[Prokorov]

Hollins has been garbage for us. Too many people here were/are busy defending him because of his reputation as a "hard nosed, old school coach". Well guess what, Avery Johnson had the same reputation, he had accomplished more with the Mavs, and I bet that the same people would have been defending Avery the same way this season, in a hypothetical scenario where Avery would have been hired (assuming that Avery had never coached for the Nets before).


Truth is that this roster just isn't made for a Hollins type team. Grizzlies were. This roster is made more for an offensive minded coach like George Karl. It was never going to be a defensive/tough team that could grind out wins. Regardless, Hollins has still underachieved with the talent at his disposal. Nets keep failing to execute in the 4th quarters of tight games. Offense regularly falls apart to complete garbage after small stretches of great offense. Nets have a tough time countering the other team's adjustments.

This roster doesnt fit ANYONE.

euro rookies, dleague scrubs, and old injured veterans doesnt work under any system. hollins as done an amazing job, and has flipped a culture that had 0 accountability into one where you need to earn things.

offense regularly falls apart? OF COURSE IT DOES. we have bottom 10 offensive talent and our best offensive players are injured. we give major minutes to low level scrub rookies and dleaguers and career backups.

im not sure what magic play you want to call that is going to make wide open guys all of a sudden start making those those shots, but that play doesnt exsist.

[Zachbretton]

Hollins has been garbage for us. Too many people here were/are busy defending him because of his reputation as a "hard nosed, old school coach". Well guess what, Avery Johnson had the same reputation, he had accomplished more with the Mavs, and I bet that the same people would have been defending Avery the same way this season, in a hypothetical scenario where Avery would have been hired (assuming that Avery had never coached for the Nets before).


Truth is that this roster just isn't made for a Hollins type team. Grizzlies were. This roster is made more for an offensive minded coach like George Karl. It was never going to be a defensive/tough team that could grind out wins. Regardless, Hollins has still underachieved with the talent at his disposal. Nets keep failing to execute in the 4th quarters of tight games. Offense regularly falls apart to complete garbage after small stretches of great offense. Nets have a tough time countering the other team's adjustments.

This roster doesnt fit ANYONE.

euro rookies, dleague scrubs, and old injured veterans doesnt work under any system. hollins as done an amazing job, and has flipped a culture that had 0 accountability into one where you need to earn things.

offense regularly falls apart? OF COURSE IT DOES. we have bottom 10 offensive talent and our best offensive players are injured. we give major minutes to low level scrub rookies and dleaguers and career backups.

im not sure what magic play you want to call that is going to make wide open guys all of a sudden start making those those shots, but that play doesnt exsist.

It pains me how clear our issues are, we are here on this forum everyday clearly dictating the major issues plaguing us and yet not a single one is ever addressed.

Our issues are not a mystery, they're not coaching, they're simply put a combination of horribly times injuries and a collection of players who were never expected to play major minutes.

As you said before, the players who are doing what they're supposed to, in KG and Plum are doing quite well... But they can only produce so much.

It's so obviously that our players are checked out when then offense starts running through KG, that's everyone else saying "I can't hit the shots and don't want to try"

At worst, we make a trade and stay the same, great, we make our future a bit brighter.

We're in a constant free fall, we need players buying in and giving it their all. When we win, it's a compete effort to play the way Hollins wants, the people who are meant to score actually do it and the defense is top quality.

But no, let's just keep falling down this hole because Hollins is the problem and not that these stars haven't gotten us ANYWHERE


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[MrDollarBills]

The fact that they make it public that they are evaluating the coach is another slap in the face to the fans.

This team can't be sold soon enough. Hollins must now realize that he walked into a landmine.

Kidd hauled ass because he KNEW that the team had no vision or plan in place. He knew that King was an idiot and the shady ass Russians have no idea as to what they're doing. Larry Sanders trade be damned, Kidd also wanted to get rid of Lopez because he knew the dude was **** ing soft and worthless. I can't fault him for wanting to get rid of this dude, he's a career LOSER.

Kidd is cruising along right now with a team with a bright future. Hollins is just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

[MrDollarBills]

http://patternofbasketball.blogspot.com ... coach.html

Once again, Kidd was one step ahead of everyone else, getting out of town before everything went south. If he had stayed in Brooklyn, he would have had the thankless job looming ahead for Lionel Hollins, who will have to keep the team competitive as they try to rebuild on the fly. It's the type of situation that ends up getting a coach fired, something Kidd well understood. Instead, he gets to coach one of the most up-and-coming young teams in the Eastern Conference. It's almost as if he wanted to be fired by the Nets so that he could coach the Bucks!

Like Pierce and Livingston, Kidd could see the writing on the wall. The New York media had it completely backwards. It wasn't that Kidd needed a job from the Bucks because he was fired by the Nets - Kidd was fired from the Nets because he wanted a job from the Bucks. In essence, he had a better offer waiting him, but first he needed to get fired from his existing job. If that sounds familiar, it's because it was ripped directly off a plot from Seinfeld, when George Costanza is trying to get fired from the New York Yankees.

Billy King wanted to be able to blame Jason Kidd for whatever happened to the Nets this season and Kidd wasn't going to sit there and take the fall for someone else's mistakes.

Kidd may be a snake, but let's see anyone now even remotely find fault in his actions this summer.

Any one of us would have done the same damn thing. Hollins is now being thrown under the bus in public for the mistakes of ownership and their meely mouthed GM

[Paradise]

This team is currently shooting 36.5% on wide open shots 10 feet and beyond and 29% on open looks from 4-6 feet. Last season? The Nets shot 39.5% on wide open looks 10 feet out and 36% in 4-6 feet shots. So, Is Hollins forcing them to purposely miss wide open looks?

Here is our shot distribution over the last three seasons.

2012 Season:

1-5 ft: 57% (2,264 attempts)
5-9 ft: 41% (844 attempts)
10-14 ft: 39% (529 attempts)
15-19 ft: 41% (882 attempts)
20-24 ft: 37% (1,340 attempts)

Assisted: 1,668 FGA
Unassisted: 1,274 FGA

LAST SEASON:

1-5 ft: 59% (2,017 attempts)
5-9 ft: 42% (715 attempts)
10-14 ft: 42% (573 attempts)
15-19 ft: 40% (889 attempts)
20-24 ft: 39% (1,289 attempts)

Assisted: 1,714 FGA
Unassisted: 1,217 FGA

THIS SEASON:

1-5 ft: 58% (1,126 attempts)
5-9 ft: 45% (490 attempts)
10-14 ft: 40% (314 attempts)
15-19 ft: 38% (547 attempts)
20-24 ft: 34% (708 attempts)

Assisted: 900 FGA
Unassisted: 683 FGA

Final Verdict? Three seasons in and the offensive shot attempts are on pace to be nearly identical with three to four different coaches.

The funny part is everyone keeps claiming we are running a 'Grizzlies style' offense but we're not. The entire offensive concepts are supposed to be based off the flex offense which he installed for Deron to thrive in. Deron was gloating in training camp about how well he was familiar to the offensive concepts Hollins installed and how much he liked him. Yet, Deron has been so pathetic he is forced to come off the bench along with Lopez. Last time I checked this is the SECOND season in a row that our 100 million dollar man has been coming off the bench due to either an injury or poor play due the emergence of another PG in his absence.

[Shook Jones]

This team is a complete joke. From ownership down. The core of this team has no heart and doesnt care about how they look after back to back losses. This has happened since they have been the core. Real players that hate losing will change offensive sets and ignore what the coach says if he is really that bad. Coaching also doesnt stop you from getting to the foul line, hitting open shots, getting steals, rebounding and hustling.

Durant and Westbrook play for a notoriously mediocre coach they dont settle.

This team needs some dogs on it. Trade lazy easy going Johnson and trade notorious nice guy lopez. Maybe Perkins would be an upgrade he doesnt back down from anyone.

[jeff1624]

This team is currently shooting 36.5% on wide open shots 10 feet and beyond and 29% on open looks from 4-6 feet. Last season? The Nets shot 39.5% on wide open looks 10 feet out and 36% in 4-6 feet shots. So, Is Hollins forcing them to purposely miss wide open looks?

Here is our shot distribution over the last three seasons.

2012 Season:

1-5 ft: 57% (2,264 attempts)
5-9 ft: 41% (844 attempts)
10-14 ft: 39% (529 attempts)
15-19 ft: 41% (882 attempts)
20-24 ft: 37% (1,340 attempts)

Assisted: 1,668 FGA
Unassisted: 1,274 FGA

LAST SEASON:

1-5 ft: 59% (2,017 attempts)
5-9 ft: 42% (715 attempts)
10-14 ft: 42% (573 attempts)
15-19 ft: 40% (889 attempts)
20-24 ft: 39% (1,289 attempts)

Assisted: 1,714 FGA
Unassisted: 1,217 FGA

THIS SEASON:

1-5 ft: 58% (1,126 attempts)
5-9 ft: 45% (490 attempts)
10-14 ft: 40% (314 attempts)
15-19 ft: 38% (547 attempts)
20-24 ft: 34% (708 attempts)

Assisted: 900 FGA
Unassisted: 683 FGA

Final Verdict? Three seasons in and the offensive shot attempts are on pace to be nearly identical with three to four different coaches.

The funny part is everyone keeps claiming we are running a 'Grizzlies style' offense but we're not. The entire offensive concepts are supposed to be based off the flex offense which he installed for Deron to thrive in. Deron was gloating in training camp about how well he was familiar to the offensive concepts Hollins installed and how much he liked him. Yet, Deron has been so pathetic he is forced to come off the bench along with Lopez. Last time I checked this is the SECOND season in a row that our 100 million dollar man has been coming off the bench due to either an injury or poor play due the emergence of another PG in his absence.

Are you seriously pinning this teams problems on Deron? You know the team is 2-9 since he went out, right? You do know the offense is average to above average when he's on the court, right? He is the least to blame on the offensive end even with his crummy shooting. And Jack has been the worst PG to recieve 25+ minutes a night, has the worst plus minus of any PG to recieve regular minutes and it isn't even close. Do you honestly think Jack is starting because he's been better than Deron? And if Hollins thinks Jack is the better option despite all the evidence saying otherwise then maybe his ass should get fired.

[kerry kittles]

"The Brooklyn Nets, increasingly worried about a recent lack of competitiveness, have launched an in-season evaluation of various facets of the team, including new coach Lionel Hollins, according to league sources.

The Nets lost consecutive road games last week to the Los Angeles Clippers and Utah Jazz by 39 and 35 points, respectively, sparking concern within the organization about whether Hollins' message is getting through. It's just the fifth time in NBA history that a team has lost back-to-back games by 35 points or more."

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?stor ... rc=desktop

This franchise is a joke. Nothing else left to say. Hoping Prok sells more than I care to see Lopez shipped or Johnson shipped. Those are just short-terms fixes. This team needs a culture change: starting at the top.

This team lacks talent. Anyone with two eyes can see it, but let's continue to run through coach and after coach and not hold the guy whose run a 2nd franchise into the ground accountable.

What a complete fcking joke. This is legit the most riddiculous thing they've done in a while. pathetic.

We are on our 5th coach in 5 years. and we need to reevaluate the coach 1/2 through his first season? how about you look at the craptastic roster mess you made and fix that instead of just initiating trade talks only to decide to hold off. Jesus christ himself couldnt coach this team to a winning record.

the fixes are so obvious. it is infuriating.

That's my real question to the Hollins detractors. Whose replacing him and how many more wins would we have?

The issue is with the players.

[lkitt0804]

"The Brooklyn Nets, increasingly worried about a recent lack of competitiveness, have launched an in-season evaluation of various facets of the team, including new coach Lionel Hollins, according to league sources.

The Nets lost consecutive road games last week to the Los Angeles Clippers and Utah Jazz by 39 and 35 points, respectively, sparking concern within the organization about whether Hollins' message is getting through. It's just the fifth time in NBA history that a team has lost back-to-back games by 35 points or more."

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?stor ... rc=desktop

This franchise is a joke. Nothing else left to say. Hoping Prok sells more than I care to see Lopez shipped or Johnson shipped. Those are just short-terms fixes. This team needs a culture change: starting at the top.

This team lacks talent. Anyone with two eyes can see it, but let's continue to run through coach and after coach and not hold the guy whose run a 2nd franchise into the ground accountable.

What a complete fcking joke. This is legit the most riddiculous thing they've done in a while. pathetic.

We are on our 5th coach in 5 years. and we need to reevaluate the coach 1/2 through his first season? how about you look at the craptastic roster mess you made and fix that instead of just initiating trade talks only to decide to hold off. Jesus christ himself couldnt coach this team to a winning record.

the fixes are so obvious. it is infuriating.

That's my real question to the Hollins detractors. Whose replacing him and how many more wins would we have?

The issue is with the players.

I'm kinda torn because I know that another 30+ point lost tomorrow will probably force BK closer into making a move but I don't want to see the team blown out again.

I don't like how everything is just out there... from the big three being on the trading block to Hollins being evaluated. Couldn't BK and Prok just evaluate Hollins internally with out telling the world? The franchise is already a circus so why add to it.


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[MrDollarBills]

This team is currently shooting 36.5% on wide open shots 10 feet and beyond and 29% on open looks from 4-6 feet. Last season? The Nets shot 39.5% on wide open looks 10 feet out and 36% in 4-6 feet shots. So, Is Hollins forcing them to purposely miss wide open looks?

Here is our shot distribution over the last three seasons.

2012 Season:

1-5 ft: 57% (2,264 attempts)
5-9 ft: 41% (844 attempts)
10-14 ft: 39% (529 attempts)
15-19 ft: 41% (882 attempts)
20-24 ft: 37% (1,340 attempts)

Assisted: 1,668 FGA
Unassisted: 1,274 FGA

LAST SEASON:

1-5 ft: 59% (2,017 attempts)
5-9 ft: 42% (715 attempts)
10-14 ft: 42% (573 attempts)
15-19 ft: 40% (889 attempts)
20-24 ft: 39% (1,289 attempts)

Assisted: 1,714 FGA
Unassisted: 1,217 FGA

THIS SEASON:

1-5 ft: 58% (1,126 attempts)
5-9 ft: 45% (490 attempts)
10-14 ft: 40% (314 attempts)
15-19 ft: 38% (547 attempts)
20-24 ft: 34% (708 attempts)

Assisted: 900 FGA
Unassisted: 683 FGA

Final Verdict? Three seasons in and the offensive shot attempts are on pace to be nearly identical with three to four different coaches.

The funny part is everyone keeps claiming we are running a 'Grizzlies style' offense but we're not. The entire offensive concepts are supposed to be based off the flex offense which he installed for Deron to thrive in. Deron was gloating in training camp about how well he was familiar to the offensive concepts Hollins installed and how much he liked him. Yet, Deron has been so pathetic he is forced to come off the bench along with Lopez. Last time I checked this is the SECOND season in a row that our 100 million dollar man has been coming off the bench due to either an injury or poor play due the emergence of another PG in his absence.

Are you seriously pinning this teams problems on Deron? You know the team is 2-9 since he went out, right? You do know the offense is average to above average when he's on the court, right? He is the least to blame on the offensive end even with his crummy shooting. And Jack has been the worst PG to recieve 25+ minutes a night, has the worst plus minus of any PG to recieve regular minutes and it isn't even close. Do you honestly think Jack is starting because he's been better than Deron? And if Hollins thinks Jack is the better option despite all the evidence saying otherwise then maybe his ass should get fired.

It is will documented that we are better with Deron.

The question is, did Deron outplay Jack when he WAS healthy to gain his starting spot back?

NO.

Deron is the definition of a "DOG IT" player.

[MrDollarBills]

What a complete fcking joke. This is legit the most riddiculous thing they've done in a while. pathetic.

We are on our 5th coach in 5 years. and we need to reevaluate the coach 1/2 through his first season? how about you look at the craptastic roster mess you made and fix that instead of just initiating trade talks only to decide to hold off. Jesus christ himself couldnt coach this team to a winning record.

the fixes are so obvious. it is infuriating.

That's my real question to the Hollins detractors. Whose replacing him and how many more wins would we have?

The issue is with the players.

I'm kinda torn because I know that another 30+ point lost tomorrow will probably force BK closer into making a move but I don't want to see the team blown out again.

I don't like how everything is just out there... from the big three being on the trading block to Hollins being evaluated. Couldn't BK and Prok just evaluate Hollins internally with out telling the world? The franchise is already a circus so why add to it.


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There is clearly internal turmoil going on with the franchise from top to bottom. That's why there's a lot of leaks and what not.

Kidd was the canary in the coalmine. Pierce and Livingston were the first workers to get out before the gas claimed them.

[Shook Jones]

That's my real question to the Hollins detractors. Whose replacing him and how many more wins would we have?

The issue is with the players.

I'm kinda torn because I know that another 30+ point lost tomorrow will probably force BK closer into making a move but I don't want to see the team blown out again.

I don't like how everything is just out there... from the big three being on the trading block to Hollins being evaluated. Couldn't BK and Prok just evaluate Hollins internally with out telling the world? The franchise is already a circus so why add to it.


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There is clearly internal turmoil going on with the franchise from top to bottom. That's why there's a lot of leaks and what not.

Kidd was the canary in the coalmine. Pierce and Livingston were the first workers to get out before the gas claimed them.

Great post!