The Official Rebuildation Thread

[vincecarter4pres]

Funny that you mentioned Dan Majerle, are you trying to butter me up?
I've been making that comparison since November on the Draft Board.
A mix of Dan Majerle and Michael Finley, playing style of course.
I almost equally like the Martell Webster comparison though.

[Jersey Generals]

Funny that you mentioned Dan Majerle, are you trying to butter me up?
I've been making that comparison since November on the Draft Board.
A mix of Dan Majerle and Michael Finley, playing style of course.
I almost equally like the Martell Webster comparison though.

You've really mentioned Dan Majerle? You serious? Great minds, Vince, great minds.

[vincecarter4pres]

Word is born.

[vincecarter4pres]

Just one of the many threads I've made this comparison in:

Henry is a spot up shooter with an NBA body and the ability to get out and finish, absorb some contact. Little ball handling and playmaking ability. Can pass a little, but that's about it.
Maybe like Dan Majerle even.

The player he most reminds me of is Finley crossed with Majerle.

I think he can be a Glen Rice type of player in the nba.

A prime Glen Rice was a beast. I was just thinking the other day, "When are we going to see another Glen Rice?".
I don't see it.
I like him a lot though. Still see a Finley Lite mixed with Majerle.
Great shot, NBA body, great athleticism, good BBIQ, solid passer but not a playmaker, hard finisher, shoddy handles, solid defense...

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=965144&start=30

[Jersey Generals]

Haha, nice.

When did you write that "can pass a little," comment? I'm betting it was in the beginning of the NCAA season, right? He grew and grew as a passer throughout the season. He's still not great, but he can pass now more than a little.


Edit: Saw that you said solid passer in one of the later comments. Finley with Majerle, yeah, that's a pretty good idea of what he is.

[vincecarter4pres]

I think I'm going to get blasted for this one, but... oh what the hell...

LAC sends:
Baron Davis
8th overall pick

NJ sends:
Devin Harris
Yi Jianlian
Courtney Lee

[Jersey Generals]

How long is Davis' contract?

[vincecarter4pres]

It's three more seasons, including 2010-11.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... ippers.jsp

[Preludepunk27]

Baron's contract runs through the end of the 12/13 season if he opts in to that last year.

It's honestly a thought though. We don't give up anything of value really to tell you the truth and pick up the #8 pick. Would the clippers do it though? Would we turn into a team like the Marbury-led Nets. Which FA would want to come play with Baron. I don't think Lebron or Wade even though that'd be a fun team. I think Amare would be most likely our guy at that point.

I'm not completely sold on this trade idea, but I wouldn't say I'm against it either. Do we feel Twill will be a strong enough shooter by then to let him start at the 2 spot or do we honestly think adding Baron would allow us to nab Lebron or Wade?

[Rockice_8]

I love all the trade talk but, I think our plans are set in stone now. To be honest if it goes differently I would be shocked. I think Favors is the obvious choice at #3 and Melo is going to be the target in 2011. Sure we will do whatever we can to land Lebron this season but it's a long shot.

We go ahead and sign a few good veterans to fill out the bench while keeping the plan in place for Melo in 2011. Grab and center and a scoring guard in the draft with the #27 and #31. Run next year with Harris, Lee, T-Will, Favors, Lopez and other picks and let them develop.

That team will be a fast exciting team to watch next season but will most likely not make the playoffs resulting in most likely a top 10 pick again where we could try for our PG of the future again (there are what looks to be a few good ones coming out next year) or an upgrade at SG (like this kid Burks).

I think thats our best coarse of action and we could see ourselves running a team like

Harris/?
Burks/Lee
Melo/T-Will
Favors/?
Lopez/?

[vincecarter4pres]

Paul George can play the two and he's pretty lights out spotting up, not very good pulling up off the dribble yet though. I would prefer to keep Lee and start him at the two in this type of hypothetical lineup with George at the 3, but you have to give to get and I don't think that they would value CDR and one of our later picks over Lee, who for all the crap we give him is very underappreciated. We could always pick up a shooter late in the draft, or by moving up some with CDR, the 27th and 31st, maybe a Luke Babbitt, Gordon Hayward, Xavier Henry, etc., or we can just sign a player like Kyle Korver, who would be great to have even in the long term.

[vincecarter4pres]

Trade #1
OKC sends:
James Harden
Serge Ibaka
21st overall pick
32nd overall pick

NJ sends:
3rd overall pick
27th overall pick
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Yi Jianlian

Why?
OKC only does this if they truly believe Cousins or Favors is the guy they need.

NJ only does this because they know Cousins will not fit here because he's a center and they don't want to wait on the extemely raw Favors yet still want true value for the 3rd overall pick, on rookie deals.


Trade #2
Milwaukee sends:
15th overall pick

NJ sends:
Courtney Lee

Why?
Milwaukee picks up a proven commodity sharp shooter and defender to be their starting shooting guard, Salmons is more effective as a small forward anyway.

NJ does this to set up the follow up third trade...


Trade #3
Indy sends:
10th overall pick

NJ sends:
15th overall pick and 21st overall pick

Why?
Indianna fans have stated they are mainly OK with a 16th and 23rd for 10th swap, this solidifies that type of trade with two similar, yet higher picks. Makes a lot of sense for them in real life as well, they are said to be looking at Bledsoe and Bradley, both of which would be a reach at 10, or lotto for that matter, but at 15 they are good value, especially when combined with the extra pick at 21 where they can scoop one of the fallen lotto talents.

NJ trades up to get a player said to have the most potential out of anyone outside of the "Big 4" prospects and maybe one of Wesley Johnson or Greg Monroe, said player being no other than the infamous Paul George.


Final Result
Leaves NJ with:
PG Harris
SG Harden
SF George
PF Ibaka
C Brook
Bench: T Will, 31st pick, 32nd pick

If Humphries opts out, or if you can dump him for a future pick(s), we then have 2 max space in addition to the players listed without giving up Devin, all while improving for the now and the future. Makes for an interesting destination for any of the big free agents.
But, worse comes to worse, you pick up a solid vet or two on a big expiring to round out the roster and show the young guys how to play, likely recieving further assets for absorbing that salary, such as future picks or another nice young prospect on a rookie deal.

[demens]

Yeah, James Harden and Ibaka for #3 is cool
But #7 and top 10 next year is not.

[Jersey Generals]

Yeah, James Harden and Ibaka for #3 is cool
But #7 and top 10 next year is not.

He actually didn't say that...he just said no to Prince. Really, dude, come on now.

[vincecarter4pres]

Question, if it were available, do you do a draft night trade of the 3rd overall and salary filler(IE, no Terrence Williams, Courtney Lee or future picks) for Carmelo Anthony?

I mean you're pretty much conceding on Lebron in this scenario, but you would have Melo and more then max cap space...

[mikhailjordan]

I would be open to trading for Melo but it'll take more than the #3 + Filler to get him.

[Jersey Generals]

Question, if it were available, do you do a draft night trade of the 3rd overall and salary filler(IE, no Terrence Williams, Courtney Lee or future picks) for Carmelo Anthony?

Of course.

I mean you're pretty much conceding on Lebron in this scenario, but you would have Melo and more then max cap space...

Not necessarily...there's an opening at PF that Lebron could fill.

[vincecarter4pres]

Alright, I'm not even going to go through the why and why not's for this one, but I'm going to throw out a semi-realistic dream scenario that I have touched on briefly in this thread...

Trade #1

NJ sends:
3rd overall
Terrence Williams
Yi Jianlian
Kris Humphries
2011 1st top 3 protected

New Orleans sends:
Chris Paul
James Posey


Trade #2

NJ sends:
Devin Harris
Courtney Lee

Memphis sends:
O.J. Mayo
Hamed Haddaddi
25th overall pick

Leaves NJ with a ton of cap room and some assets to make follow up moves/signings....

[enetric]

You mean do both at the same time...not do either one right?

I cant see either of those trades getting done...but yeah...of course we would do that.

[vincecarter4pres]

Well, supposedly we recently offered the 3rd overall and Devin for Chris Paul and were turned down...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... _paul.html