kerry kittles wrote:I think you're being inconsistent in judgment of salary vs production. I really brought up Deron for two reasons, first like I just mentioned before salary vs proudction, 2nd public preception this season. Joe has been terrible according to the board, the most singled out player on every GT, and everything is under a microscope. Deron is "resurgent", "healthy", "playing awesome", not a reason for our shortcoming this season. Here is a list of pgs (only including starters). I have include their salaries and ranked by PER:
Player PPG Asst Turn TS% PER Contract
Chris Paul 17.9 9.8 1.5 64.0% 28.1 $20 million
Steph Curry 23.2 11.6 4.8 63.4% 27.5 $10.6 million
Kyle Lowry 20.7 6.9 1.8 56.7% 24.3 $12 million
Kyrie Irving 20.8 4.6 1.6 61.4% 23.1 $7 million *5 year $90 million extension
Damian Lillard 19.9 6.3 2.6 60.4% 22.4 $3.3 million
Jeff Teague 17.3 7.1 3.2 59.8% 21.5 $8 million
Mike Conley 16.7 6.3 2.2 57.8% 20.6 8.7 million
John Wall 17.6 10.0 3.8 51.4% 20.3 $14.7 million
Brandon Knight 17.6 5.8 3.3 58% 19.8 $3.6 million
Darren Collison 16.4 6.6 2.3 54.2% 19.1 $4.8 million
Ty Lawson 15.8 10.3 3.0 50.8% 18.2 $11.6 million
Jrue Holiday 15.2 6.6 1.8 51.8% 18 $9.9 million
Deron 17.1 6.5 2.7 56.0% 17.7 $20 million
Tony Parker 16.6 5.5 2.7 58.6% 17.3 $12.5 million *3 year $45 million extension
Didn't include the Phoenix trio:
Eric Bledsoe 15.8 5.7 3.2 56.5% 18.3 $13 million
Goran Dragic 16 3.8 2.1 58.0% 17.2 $7.5 million
Isiah Thomas 15.5 4.1 1.9 59.5% 22.8 $7.2 million
This also doesn't include Westbrook due to sample size - who is clearly head and shoulders above DWill.
Deron went from a guy getting outplayed by Chalmers in the playoffs to an average point guard - slightly above this season. How many games has he taken over? Our 1st game against the Knicks and that's it? He's not a top 10 point guard and he's being paid Chris Paul money. He's suppose to playing at a superstar level instead so many have just been happy if he looks spry, has bounce in his step, attacks the basket once a game. Joe was the third best player in the Eastern Conference playoffs - and it seems people are holding him to that standard - 3rd best player in the East.
Good point guards are paid substantially less than any other position because of how deep the position in.
This team has a laundry list of problems, from top to bottom. None of our core players are meeting expectations, our bench is putrid, Hollins rotations have been head-scratchers, we're turning the ball over, getting outrebound, outhustled, the list goes on. The problems extend far beyond Joe.
Edit and sorry for how those stats posteed, I put spaces in between them but they're all clustered.
As I said before, because this is the JJ thread I wanted to respect the OP and basically comment on JJ. I replied to what you said and said that I'd speak "Quickly on D-Will".
That wasn't a full length response/statement of my opinion of D-Will the player against D-Will's production vs. contract.
If you want an extensive analysis and response on D-Will, start (or re-open if there is one) a D-Will thread and we can talk about him there.