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Post#1 » by Prokorov » Wed Jul 1, 2015 7:27 pm

The current nets roster and contract details:

Point Gaurds:
Deron Williams - 2 Years: 21.0M, 22.3M
Jarret Jack - 2 Years: 6.3M, 6.3M [TO]
Steve Blake - 1 Year: 1.5M
Shane Larkin - 2 years: 1.5M, 1.5M
Ryan Boatwright - 1 Year: .5M

Shooting Gaurds:
Bojan Bogdanovic - 2 Years: 3.5M, 3.5M
Sergey Karasev - 2 Years: 1.6M, 2.4M
Markell Brown - 2 Years: 0.8M, 1.1M
Wayne Ellington - 1 Year: 1.5M

Small Forwards:
Joe Johnson - 1 Year: 24.8M
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson - 3 years: 1.1M, 1.1M, 1.2M
Earl Clark - 1 Year: 1.1M

Power Forwards:
Thaddeus Young - 4 Years: 11.1M, 12.53, 13M, 13.8M [TO]
Thomas Robinson - 1 Year: 1.5m
Cory Jefferson - 2 years: 0.8M, 1.1M
Chris McCullough - 3 Years: 0.9M, 0.9M, 1.0M

Centers:
Brook Lopez - 3 Years: 20M, 20M, 20M
Willie Reed - 1 Year: .5M

* Nets have signed Cliff Alexander, Deshawn Delaney, Ben Vezzola, Josh Gasser, & Kendall Gray to ungauranteed contracts.
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Post#2 » by Trader_Joe » Wed Jul 1, 2015 8:27 pm

I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.

All in all I think anyone is fair game to be moved at some point other than...

D.Will (no one's touching him at the moment)
Bogdanovic
RHJ
Thad
Lopez

I would say McC isn't going anywhere, but I don't know about this kid.
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Post#3 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Jul 1, 2015 8:39 pm

—D-Will has an ETO. Maybe he hates being a Net so much that he takes it.
David West inexplicably opted out. Why can't D-Will lol?

— Is Thad $12.5mil straight or is it $11.2mil in the first year and escalating each year?
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Post#4 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 1, 2015 8:55 pm

David West can still play. Deron can't. Big difference.
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Post#5 » by Ror1997 » Wed Jul 1, 2015 10:48 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.

All in all I think anyone is fair game to be moved at some point other than...

D.Will (no one's touching him at the moment)
Bogdanovic
RHJ
Thad
Lopez

I would say McC isn't going anywhere, but I don't know about this kid.


I would say Markel Brown is pretty safe too.
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Post#6 » by Starski » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:21 pm

I'd very very Okay with a

Dwill or Jack
Bogs
RHJ
Thad
Lopez

Starting 5....Can also switch up Bogs at the 3 and Brown at the 2 when we go small....

If brown has worked on his game for a very defensive wing we can even go Brown 1 Bogs 2 and RHJ at the 3....
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Post#7 » by Net Sentence » Thu Jul 2, 2015 2:59 am

Trader_Joe wrote:I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.

All in all I think anyone is fair game to be moved at some point other than...

D.Will (no one's touching him at the moment)
Bogdanovic
RHJ
Thad
Lopez

I would say McC isn't going anywhere, but I don't know about this kid.


Nets can rescind Mirza's offer I believe
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Post#8 » by Antti22 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 6:34 am

Trader_Joe wrote:I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.




This team desprately needs some shooting and you are hoping we wont get stuck with probably our best shooter when healthy? And also one player who plays with heart on the court.
We probably wont be able to retain him, but if we manage to keep him on QO, him playing a contract year for his last decent contract, would be like winning the lottery...
I know all the love Americans give to players who owned college but busted in the NBA ( T-Rob), but I would hate if we chose T-Rob over Mirza, because T-Rob does not add ANYTHING to the team, whereas Mirza adds shooting which we really need.
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Post#9 » by Paradise » Thu Jul 2, 2015 7:43 am

Antti22 wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.




This team desprately needs some shooting and you are hoping we wont get stuck with probably our best shooter when healthy? And also one player who plays with heart on the court.
We probably wont be able to retain him, but if we manage to keep him on QO, him playing a contract year for his last decent contract, would be like winning the lottery...
I know all the love Americans give to players who owned college but busted in the NBA ( T-Rob), but I would hate if we chose T-Rob over Mirza, because T-Rob does not add ANYTHING to the team, whereas Mirza adds shooting which we really need.


I agree shooting is important, especially the need for stretch fours in this new NBA but Robinson adds rebounding, shot blocking and athleticism. He's the best Plumlee replacement on the market that we can afford and we badly need to address that. We've been a poor rebounding for two years.

I don't think it will necessarily mean we have to choose between Mirza or Robinson since he's more of a Center.
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Post#10 » by Antti22 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 8:11 am

I agree that we need a backup center, badly. But T-Rob is awfully undersized for that role. In case Thad Young loses time to injury, T-Rob will not be a good replacement for him IMO. And in case Lopez goes down, he wont be a good replacement for him either due to size.
At the 4 spot, Mirza atleast brings that quality and potential to be a worthy replacement for it. Providing spacing for Brook to work down low ( We are still hoping he plays more near the rim and less on the set-shots outside???? ) .

Im not that opposed to adding T-Rob as a bargain bench player, but I dont think we can afford to lose Mirza. Spacing is extremely important and at the moment he would be the only bench player, atleast in the frontcourt, providing that. Even our backup backcourt players dont do much of that, and hoping to get shooters on min contracts is really not a good hope ( RHJ as much as ive heard, is not a shooter, AT ALL. Cory Jefferson is not a shooter, Jack is not a shooter. Karasev - I really dont know what to make of him, but not a shooter.) .
I am repeating myself already, but I say again: we cannot lose any shooters we might have, we have no possibility to replace them.
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Post#11 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Jul 2, 2015 2:37 pm

Antti22 wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.




This team desprately needs some shooting and you are hoping we wont get stuck with probably our best shooter when healthy? And also one player who plays with heart on the court.
We probably wont be able to retain him, but if we manage to keep him on QO, him playing a contract year for his last decent contract, would be like winning the lottery...
I know all the love Americans give to players who owned college but busted in the NBA ( T-Rob), but I would hate if we chose T-Rob over Mirza, because T-Rob does not add ANYTHING to the team, whereas Mirza adds shooting which we really need.

Weird... I missed where I gave any praise to T.Rob, a player I've been dismissing on here the last couple days as I don't think he can fill in at PF like some do, and I think he's too undersized to play C. Instead I do see where I said I think we can expect him to be added.

As for Mirza I said "stuck" because it seems no one is offering him that kind of money and his extra $4m is a hell of a lot more than $4m when you factor in the luxury tax. It may force us to make additional concessions we don't want to make regarding payroll. As for shooting.. yes he "can" shoot, but can he shoot well? He shot respectably from the field 1 out of 3 seasons. Is the chance he shoots respectably this season worth his lack of defense, rebounding and massive tax bill? I'm not so sure. If anything it seems you may have the bias here, not me.
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Post#12 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 2:54 pm

we need bigs... hoping to land Biyombo on the cheap, bring back Jordan would be cool with me, try out McGee(what do we lose?), is Aldrich a FA?.... someone.... anything....

i'm for the trade with plumlee but we are playing with fire with no backup/insurance to Lopez IMO.
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Post#13 » by Zachbretton » Thu Jul 2, 2015 3:16 pm

I think it's a lock we bring in TRob, he's said in an interview lately that he's not playing for money anymore but pride and to show he can be better. The Nets and TRob have mutual interest and I agree I think he's the best Plumlee replacement, and has a bit more athleticism and can rebound at a better rate. TRob is the perfect prospect to be under Hollins, so overall I think we add him.

The only other problem we have is finding anther shooter because we lack that overall. Hopefully we can swing the JJ trade and get back Lee and Green, who are at least somewhat of shooters. If we get VC as well that would be great to have such an awesome Vet presence back


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Post#14 » by Antti22 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 3:43 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:
Antti22 wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.




This team desprately needs some shooting and you are hoping we wont get stuck with probably our best shooter when healthy? And also one player who plays with heart on the court.
We probably wont be able to retain him, but if we manage to keep him on QO, him playing a contract year for his last decent contract, would be like winning the lottery...
I know all the love Americans give to players who owned college but busted in the NBA ( T-Rob), but I would hate if we chose T-Rob over Mirza, because T-Rob does not add ANYTHING to the team, whereas Mirza adds shooting which we really need.

Weird... I missed where I gave any praise to T.Rob, a player I've been dismissing on here the last couple days as I don't think he can fill in at PF like some do, and I think he's too undersized to play C. Instead I do see where I said I think we can expect him to be added.

As for Mirza I said "stuck" because it seems no one is offering him that kind of money and his extra $4m is a hell of a lot more than $4m when you factor in the luxury tax. It may force us to make additional concessions we don't want to make regarding payroll. As for shooting.. yes he "can" shoot, but can he shoot well? He shot respectably from the field 1 out of 3 seasons. Is the chance he shoots respectably this season worth his lack of defense, rebounding and massive tax bill? I'm not so sure. If anything it seems you may have the bias here, not me.



I admit, I have a bias towards Mirza. And I am sure he can be one of the shooters we truly need and during last season I believe that the condition he had, affected him A LOT even before it was diagnosed.
I know that 4 mill on the payroll means a lot more for us after taxes. But the question is, how do you replace him with cheaper contract? Its not the 4 mill we are talking about, but if he doesnt take that 4 mill, we need to replace him with a player who makes vet min or mMle, that is either 1 mill or 3,3mill. So the potential saving here is only either 3 mill ( + tax saving) or around 1 mill ( + tax saving). And on top of that, if we get someone on mMle to replace his position on the team, he will probably be WORSE (considering the going rate of players this offseason, crazy) AND not an expiring contract ( usual deal is 3 years/10 mill as it seems), which means we get a player who is probably worse and eats into our cap following years, JUST TO REPLACE instead of adding in some other place of need, or just saving it.

Mirza-s QO is the smallest part in our potential tax bill, considering that whatever we do, we also need to fill the roster. If it is Mirzas contract or someone elses, the difference is quite small to be honest.

From what I have read, Nets consider T-Rob more of a 5 than 4, and if he comes here at vet min just to gain his respect back ( as he himself said). Then im all for it, but that has nothing to do with the belief that Mirza staying here on QO would be like hitting the jackpot for this team, not euromillions jackpot, but maybe like Bingo.
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Post#15 » by Prokorov » Thu Jul 2, 2015 5:38 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:— Is Thad $12.5mil straight or is it $11.2mil in the first year and escalating each year?


details arent out yet.
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Post#16 » by Prokorov » Thu Jul 2, 2015 5:40 pm

Antti22 wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:I think we can expect to add Thomas Robinson to the mix soon.
Also, I hope we don't get stuck with Mirza and his one year QO. We wouldn't be able to move him without his permission either.




This team desprately needs some shooting and you are hoping we wont get stuck with probably our best shooter when healthy? And also one player who plays with heart on the court.
We probably wont be able to retain him, but if we manage to keep him on QO, him playing a contract year for his last decent contract, would be like winning the lottery...
I know all the love Americans give to players who owned college but busted in the NBA ( T-Rob), but I would hate if we chose T-Rob over Mirza, because T-Rob does not add ANYTHING to the team, whereas Mirza adds shooting which we really need.


robinson would add rebounding, something we currently have none of at PF.

im all for mirza being back on a 1 year deal for the reasons you mentioned, but if he goes i wont lose sleep over it, he has basically wasted every chance he has gotten here and been a minor disappointment.
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Post#17 » by Prokorov » Thu Jul 2, 2015 5:44 pm

I'm perfectly fine if we go into the season with a big rotation of:

Brook, Thad, Jordan, robinson, CJ

I think Jordan is at least an average backup C. we have kind of been spoiled here with Blatche and even Plumlee at times. if you look at what most teams have at starting center its ugly, let alone backup center. i think jordan is fine as long as brook can give us 34 minutes a night.

i like trob, i think he would be a good fit here. doesnt need the ball, rebounds, active on both ends. again not a great player but i think he is a rotation big
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Post#18 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 5:51 pm

I would like Jordan to stay on as well. I just haven't heard anything from NETs camp in regards to this...

thus my "panicking" of a backup C/Big
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Post#19 » by Prokorov » Thu Jul 2, 2015 7:07 pm

updated to include larkin
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Post#20 » by SpeedyG » Thu Jul 2, 2015 8:25 pm

Is that info about Thad's 4th year being a TO confirmed?
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