jbeachboy wrote:celtics are favored to win by 14 points.
nope. not touching that one.
The Nets are way too hard to predict vs that many points against a divisional opponent imo.
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jbeachboy wrote:celtics are favored to win by 14 points.
MrDollarBills wrote:jbeachboy wrote:celtics are favored to win by 14 points.
nope. not touching that one.
The Nets are way too hard to predict vs that many points against a divisional opponent imo.
jbeachboy wrote:anyone think kilpatrick or harris starts over bojan tomorrow?
GoodDayLa wrote:jbeachboy wrote:anyone think kilpatrick or harris starts over bojan tomorrow?
Unless Kenny sandbagged the entire preseason, Harris or Kilpatrick will start tomorow and they keep brining Bojan off the bench. If Bojan starts, it means Kenny figured it out or was sandbagging and I'll be very excited for this team's prospects.
Bojan should start and punish small Thomas all game long until Stevens is forced to go small to expose the Net's lack of athleticism which is what he did in the 2nd game on the road.
If Bojan starts, you just post him on Bradley & IT to start like how Klay Thompson does the small guys the same way on the block.
And Bojan isn't good enough to be an iso gunner. He's best off movement, catch and shoot, cuts, team play, triple threat.
Thanks for the honesty.MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
ChokeFasncists wrote:GoodDayLa wrote:jbeachboy wrote:anyone think kilpatrick or harris starts over bojan tomorrow?
Unless Kenny sandbagged the entire preseason, Harris or Kilpatrick will start tomorow and they keep brining Bojan off the bench. If Bojan starts, it means Kenny figured it out or was sandbagging and I'll be very excited for this team's prospects.
Bojan should start and punish small Thomas all game long until Stevens is forced to go small to expose the Net's lack of athleticism which is what he did in the 2nd game on the road.
If Bojan starts, you just post him on Bradley & IT to start like how Klay Thompson does the small guys the same way on the block.
Bradley is a far superior offensive player than Bogs, let alone defensively, he'd have no chance.And Bojan isn't good enough to be an iso gunner. He's best off movement, catch and shoot, cuts, team play, triple threat.
Bogs certainly didn't get his points off just C&S in the Olympics. (not saying he's an iso gunner) Just give it a try.
Harris and SKil are both good shooters.
jbeachboy wrote:Prokorov wrote:jbeachboy wrote:
you visiting boston or vacationing there?
i live/work here (cambridge, MA) moved from bergen county NJ in 98 to go to northeastern univ. and stayed here ever since.
prok, what do you work as out there ?
hood30 wrote:GoodDayLa wrote:Prokorov wrote:-Because Bojan is terrible defensively and we dont want to be last in defense again
-because bojan works best with the ball not off it and being the primary option. so staggering him and lin makes sense
you need vets for a rebuilding team. they provide stability. otherwise you end up like philly, who even with tons of top 3 picks is stilla giant mess. if foye cant hit open shots, you put in harris. but foye deserves shot
I really disagree on how to use Bojan. He looks best off ball and not on it in my opinion. I personally do not want him handling the ball out top much if ever.
Staggering Bojan and Lin is a horrible idea to me personally.
I would play Lin and Bojan together as much as possible. You want to use Lin to hit Bojan on movement and kick it out to Bojan for target practice when Lin is doubled or the D over rotates. Bojan in turn is a big shot maker and he help legitimately spread the floor. Bojan has cajones and you need that & helps the team. You want to minimize Bojan handling the ball except on triple threat closeouts where Bojan can either shoot or drive, which is the type of positioning Lin specializes in giving his teammates.
It's fun to see these discussions. It's neat how 2 people can see the exact opposite though both persons watch the same thing very carefully.
I completely disagree with your ideal usage of Bojan almost to the T. I think Bojan could be the #1 or #2 scorer of this team shooting a high percentage if he was utilized the way I suggested together with Lin. I get the defensive concerns, but I'm just talking about offense here.
Small sample size, but I'm pretty sure the crappy defender combo of Lin Bojan & Brook Lopez were a Net positive rating in that Knicks game. It's no aberration.
Agree with you GoodDayLA...The defensive argument against starting Bojan is not a strong one because Foye himself is no better, from what we've seen in preseason...Foye is also 6'2, so he'll give up on average 3-4 inches every night..then the fact that he's 33 and is in clear decline.
Also, you want Bojan to play alongside Lin instead of apart because Lin's strength is to attack the rim and he could use Bojan pedigree as a shooter to keep defenders from collapsing into the lane to stop Lin.
So playing Bojan alongside Lin makes more sense than not...Bojan is more of a catch-N-shoot player instead of a guy that create his shot off the dribble...You need him to simply spread the floor..You can't do that with Foye.
But the strongest argument for starting Bojan is the fact that the starting unit do not have enough scorers..Booker and RHJ are both liability when it comes to scoring and Bojan scoring ability would be crucial to support Lin/Lopez..You just can't count on Foye to hold his weight when it come to scoring and keeping defenses honest.
This motion offense need shooters but the starting unit can only count on Lin as an average 3PT shooter
Prokorov wrote:hood30 wrote:GoodDayLa wrote:
I really disagree on how to use Bojan. He looks best off ball and not on it in my opinion. I personally do not want him handling the ball out top much if ever.
Staggering Bojan and Lin is a horrible idea to me personally.
I would play Lin and Bojan together as much as possible. You want to use Lin to hit Bojan on movement and kick it out to Bojan for target practice when Lin is doubled or the D over rotates. Bojan in turn is a big shot maker and he help legitimately spread the floor. Bojan has cajones and you need that & helps the team. You want to minimize Bojan handling the ball except on triple threat closeouts where Bojan can either shoot or drive, which is the type of positioning Lin specializes in giving his teammates.
It's fun to see these discussions. It's neat how 2 people can see the exact opposite though both persons watch the same thing very carefully.
I completely disagree with your ideal usage of Bojan almost to the T. I think Bojan could be the #1 or #2 scorer of this team shooting a high percentage if he was utilized the way I suggested together with Lin. I get the defensive concerns, but I'm just talking about offense here.
Small sample size, but I'm pretty sure the crappy defender combo of Lin Bojan & Brook Lopez were a Net positive rating in that Knicks game. It's no aberration.
Agree with you GoodDayLA...The defensive argument against starting Bojan is not a strong one because Foye himself is no better, from what we've seen in preseason...Foye is also 6'2, so he'll give up on average 3-4 inches every night..then the fact that he's 33 and is in clear decline.
Also, you want Bojan to play alongside Lin instead of apart because Lin's strength is to attack the rim and he could use Bojan pedigree as a shooter to keep defenders from collapsing into the lane to stop Lin.
So playing Bojan alongside Lin makes more sense than not...Bojan is more of a catch-N-shoot player instead of a guy that create his shot off the dribble...You need him to simply spread the floor..You can't do that with Foye.
But the strongest argument for starting Bojan is the fact that the starting unit do not have enough scorers..Booker and RHJ are both liability when it comes to scoring and Bojan scoring ability would be crucial to support Lin/Lopez..You just can't count on Foye to hold his weight when it come to scoring and keeping defenses honest.
This motion offense need shooters but the starting unit can only count on Lin as an average 3PT shooter
its a statistical fact that foye isnt just better defensively, but light years better defensively. its really not a question of who is better
Ror1997 wrote:I started a new job today and I can already tell I'll need a nap before the game lol
GoodDayLa wrote:ChokeFasncists wrote:GoodDayLa wrote:
Unless Kenny sandbagged the entire preseason, Harris or Kilpatrick will start tomorow and they keep brining Bojan off the bench. If Bojan starts, it means Kenny figured it out or was sandbagging and I'll be very excited for this team's prospects.
Bojan should start and punish small Thomas all game long until Stevens is forced to go small to expose the Net's lack of athleticism which is what he did in the 2nd game on the road.
If Bojan starts, you just post him on Bradley & IT to start like how Klay Thompson does the small guys the same way on the block.
Bradley is a far superior offensive player than Bogs, let alone defensively, he'd have no chance.And Bojan isn't good enough to be an iso gunner. He's best off movement, catch and shoot, cuts, team play, triple threat.
Bogs certainly didn't get his points off just C&S in the Olympics. (not saying he's an iso gunner) Just give it a try.
Harris and SKil are both good shooters.
In my opinion, Bogs got almost all his points in the Olympics off catch and shoot and triple threat drives or drives off over rotation closeouts. He had teammates getting him the ball in good positions.
Thanks for the honesty.MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.