Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread

[Decipher]

Unsure why you seem to give Mitchell this bad teammate, ball dominating chucker, playoff failure moniker?

I’m also unsure why Garland is being touted as some awesome off ball player and great defender?

Also, you think Garland’s asset cost would be lower?

Don’t get me wrong, I like Garland a lot, and would welcome him here with open arms, but I’m just not sure I agree with your evaluations of the two, and comparison between them.

I'm not trying to crap on Mitchell, I just don't think he's the type of guy we can win with, and I don't like the idea of giving up 3 plus picks and assets just to obtain him so we can give him a super max, I don't think he's worth that and I don't see us going that far with him. So we'll have to give up 3-5 1st round picks plus Cam Thomas, CamJ (i dont mind) and maybe a guy like Clowney. Well come to think of it that's not a bad package lol but still, we'll have to give him a boat load of cash.

I also just think Garland is a better fit, we need a point guard and I feel like Garland has more potential but it's stunted with Mitchell being there. TBH I rather someone else than either of these guys but if we're looking at Cleveland as potential trade partners, I think we should go after Garland. It's just my opinion so yea I can be wrong. And ofcourse I know Mitchell is the better player, I just think Garland makes more sense for us imo. But I'm sure Nets are looking at Mitchell, we've heard all the rumors already

Call me crazy but I can see Milwaukee potentially trading Giannis if they cannot seal the deal with Lillard and him. Maybe not next year but perhaps the year after. Anything is possible.

Far more likely (& probably inevitable) that they trade Dame and a pairing with Giannis becomes a revolving door with him being the constant in Milwaukee

[Papi_swav]

I'm not trying to crap on Mitchell, I just don't think he's the type of guy we can win with, and I don't like the idea of giving up 3 plus picks and assets just to obtain him so we can give him a super max, I don't think he's worth that and I don't see us going that far with him. So we'll have to give up 3-5 1st round picks plus Cam Thomas, CamJ (i dont mind) and maybe a guy like Clowney. Well come to think of it that's not a bad package lol but still, we'll have to give him a boat load of cash.

I also just think Garland is a better fit, we need a point guard and I feel like Garland has more potential but it's stunted with Mitchell being there. TBH I rather someone else than either of these guys but if we're looking at Cleveland as potential trade partners, I think we should go after Garland. It's just my opinion so yea I can be wrong. And ofcourse I know Mitchell is the better player, I just think Garland makes more sense for us imo. But I'm sure Nets are looking at Mitchell, we've heard all the rumors already

Call me crazy but I can see Milwaukee potentially trading Giannis if they cannot seal the deal with Lillard and him. Maybe not next year but perhaps the year after. Anything is possible.

Far more likely (& probably inevitable) that they trade Dame and a pairing with Giannis becomes a revolving door with him being the constant in Milwaukee

Giannis might just walk at that point, he wants to win

[NetsJets]

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[Decipher]

Call me crazy but I can see Milwaukee potentially trading Giannis if they cannot seal the deal with Lillard and him. Maybe not next year but perhaps the year after. Anything is possible.

Far more likely (& probably inevitable) that they trade Dame and a pairing with Giannis becomes a revolving door with him being the constant in Milwaukee

Giannis might just walk at that point, he wants to win

He’s not known for his logic

[vincecarter4pres]

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Was about to say that’s kind of ridiculous until I looked at the list.

Besides Deni, there’s only so much of a case for him over any of the other guys above him.

[Dangun]

What do we say about getting ant simons to run the point going forward ? Where does that leave thomas though? Can that backcourt work...

[vincecarter4pres]

What do we say about getting ant simons to run the point going forward ? Where does that leave thomas though? Can that backcourt work...

If you are going to go forward with Cam, I don’t think another small, ball dominant, suspect defender at the other guard is the right call.

You need a Marcus Smart type.

[Stone]

Watching the playoffs and seeing all the stacked teams, I am reconsidering whether we should rip the bandaid off and go the full rebuild route or slowly peel the bandaid off see if we can get lucky again. A case could be made for either.

BTW Marks recently hinted to a meet and greet with the Brooklyn Block or brigade season ticket holders. That we might be active during the draft

[Decipher]

Hate to say it as he’s been one of my favourite players but our biggest short term issue is a max player who can’t play

Other than that, I honestly don’t think that we’re that far away and particularly as some teams might implode

Take the Cavs (or Hawks, Bulls, Bucks, Warriors etc), guarantee that their owners think that they should be better & players could potentially shake loose

[drchaos]

If we want so sign two max free agents next Summer is there any way we could keep Bridges, Claxton and Cam Thomas if we shipped out Cam J and DFS?

[Netaman]

Sort of mentioned this in the poll thread but so far everything is going about as well as possible for a potential Donovan Mitchell pursuit. They just lost game 6 with him dropping 50 points. Tomorrow is game 7. If Cleveland can't even get by Orlando in round 1, I would be shocked if he doesn't get traded this summer. No way he extends early there, and no way can they keep him if that's the case.

So looking around at alternative landing spots for him where he could extend:

1. NY has always been long rumored his preference but Knicks are surging with Brunson as lead guard. Fit with Mitchell is uncertain. Don't have very many non-pick assets. I think they are more likely to hold their ammo for PG3 or Kawhi or KD or Booker.

2. Miami has been mentioned and Pat Reilly has pretty much never seen a super star he can't convince to extend, but they are entering the offseason in a little bit of a pickle with Jimmy Butler. Do they pay him and keep doubling down? Or do they pivot and instead trade him and build around Bam, Herro, Jovic, Jacquez? If they keep going all in that means paying Butler a ton of money, then trading some combo of Herro/Robinson/Rozier/Jovic/Jacquez and their 2 tradeable FRPs, but is that enough for Mitchell? Doubtful.

My big takeaway is the nets are in drivers seat for Mitchell. 2 or 3 FRPs plus 1 or 2 young pieces and DFS seems like a better package than anyone else can offer. Would still have assets for a follow-up move too.

If they could ever do a deal with each other Knicks and Heat would be a good match for a Butler trade too. Thibs/Butler obviously fit. Randle and a couple firsts should get that done, but would the Knicks pay Jimmy and basically go all in on him + OG/Nova core? I think that would be a really fun team tbh. Basically a peak-Thibs team.