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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#161 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:02 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
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you entirely missed the point

being off national TV is exactly the kind of game you'd fix


What does anyone gain by fixing it for the spurs over the Knicks? Pretty meaningless game.


No game is meaningless when it comes to betting and getting a piece of the action. The league is dirty and getting worse. A disparity of 32 to 12 is absurd.



We've had 6 games this year where we've taken less than that, it's the nature of our offense, we've had a bunch of games where we've taken exactly 12 too. With just 1 guy that can dribble we don't have many options getting to the line if they're not calling fouls on his attempts.
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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#162 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:09 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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sol537 wrote:
What does anyone gain by fixing it for the spurs over the Knicks? Pretty meaningless game.


No game is meaningless when it comes to betting and getting a piece of the action. The league is dirty and getting worse. A disparity of 32 to 12 is absurd.



We've had 6 games this year where we've taken less than that, it's the nature of our offense, we've had a bunch of games where we've taken exactly 12 too. With just 1 guy that can dribble we don't have many options getting to the line if they're not calling fouls on his attempts.


I get your point, but it's not just that. They gifted them an abundance of fouls that were ridiculous. Even when accounting for any natural disparities, they skewed the spread further.
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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#163 » by drekwins » Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:16 am

The few things that jump out to me when looking at the box score:

1) Jalen - +20 in 43 min
2) Bogey - -16 in 15 minutes. 2 turnovers. 5 missed shots. 4pts on 7 FGA. No assists. When does this experiment end?
3) Huge FT differential
4) Good job on the offensive glass +10
5) Won the turnover battle
6) 3 point shooting was basically even
7) Their bench really gave them a lift

We lost this game because of FT shooting and our current lack of productive depth. Giving up 53%FG and 40% FT didnt help either. All in all, I'm not too concerned, though. Once Bogey is out of the rotation, and OG is in, this game is clearly a win. I just feel bad that Brunson's 60 and +20 were in vain.

I also question whether Precious was wrongly moved out of the starting lineup. I believe that once OG is back, Precious should play with the starters, and both McBride and Hart should come off the bench. I think this will even out our offensive production a bit more.
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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#164 » by stuporman » Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:21 am

Brunson shot the fewest FTa by a player that scored 60 in a game since the NBA-ABA merger...hm
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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#165 » by Davis18 » Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:00 am

NBA is a showtime business.
We are ultimate villain and Wemby is their new super hero.
We should have won.
Thank god for Brunhim.
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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#166 » by oldshoolballer » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:33 am

Clyde_Style wrote:Spurs 32 Free Throws

Knicks 12 Free Throws

How can anyone see that stat and not think the game was rigged?

I have a couple of long time friends who have completely given up on pro sports. The gambling has just gotten to big and out of control. I'm not there yet but getting closer myself.
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Post#167 » by egelband » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:38 am

Knicks always get absurdly jobbed in Texas.
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Post#168 » by egelband » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:50 am

2010 wrote:Thibs seemed pissed about the refs in his post game presser but bit his tongue. He just kept repeating “it’s a tough way to lose.” You know what that means in coach-speak.

Yep. Didn’t let the players decide it. Did the league issue one of their mea culpa “whoopsie” declarations?
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Post#169 » by Kineto » Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:42 am

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Gravy wrote:What was that jump ball violation. Looks like the both jumped at the same time

It was a stupid stupid call. At the very least, have them jump it again.


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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#170 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:00 am

HerSports85 wrote:With our schedule, we really needed this one. 9 games remaining. I think we go 4-5


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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#171 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:02 am

sol537 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Spurs 32 Free Throws

Knicks 12 Free Throws

How can anyone see that stat and not think the game was rigged?


Why would the nba rig such a meaningless game that wasn’t even on national TV?

Outside of the Nova three, we played like crap collectively. Soft on defense and perhaps too reliant on Brunson on offense. We didn’t deserve to win.


Because Wemby was playing against a huge market team.
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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#172 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:04 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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sol537 wrote:
Why would the nba rig such a meaningless game that wasn’t even on national TV?

Outside of the Nova three, we played like crap collectively. Soft on defense and perhaps too reliant on Brunson on offense. We didn’t deserve to win.


you entirely missed the point

being off national TV is exactly the kind of game you'd fix



Outside of Jalen we don't have anyone else that puts any kind of pressure on the rim, usually we get some freethrows off second chances but everyone is afraid to challenge Victor when they get an offensive board, what's normally a strong putback attempt becomes a couple pump fakes and passes out. I think Victor had something to do with our lack of freethrows, also the Spurs pass a lot and attack rotating closeouts, where as we just iso with 1 guy right now.

Also, our centers make it really easy for him to defend the paint, since neither really poses a threat outside the paint. At least IHart can make passes, but Wemby was in drop just waiting for anyone coming off his screens.


When the Knicks get Towns and Donovan Mitchell, these issues will be corrected.
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Re: PG: Refs help the new NBA Goldenboy Flopper beat Knicks despite Brunson's 61 point game. 

Post#173 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:09 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
sol537 wrote:
What does anyone gain by fixing it for the spurs over the Knicks? Pretty meaningless game.


No game is meaningless when it comes to betting and getting a piece of the action. The league is dirty and getting worse. A disparity of 32 to 12 is absurd.



We've had 6 games this year where we've taken less than that, it's the nature of our offense, we've had a bunch of games where we've taken exactly 12 too. With just 1 guy that can dribble we don't have many options getting to the line if they're not calling fouls on his attempts.


I think the refs had a finger on the scale, but there's also the issue that without Randle, there isn't really a bonafide 2nd scoring option, and no, Donte doesn't really count.

Even Randle has his issues, as you really don't want him creating with the ball in his hands from the 3 point line on into the rim; not too often.

Knicks lack that other wing, which is kind of an issue as they filled those spots with Donte, who is a 6th man, and OG, who isn't that dynamic on offense. Which in fine for the regular season but will probably be an issue for the playoffs, if OG even plays in them.

Donte could move to the bench if the Knicks add a wing.
I suppose the Knicks could try for more offense from the 5 if Towns is truly available for economic reasons.

Randle I'm not even counting on, because if he comes back, it'll be as hobbled Randle, which might be ok in another player, but of course Randle will still try to have the ball 40% of the time and take 20 shots a game.
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Post#174 » by duetta » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:14 am

aggo wrote:we needed a second scorer


not a guy that camps the 3pt line and waits for something to happen


That would be Randle.
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Post#175 » by Ma10 » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:31 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
sol537 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Spurs 32 Free Throws

Knicks 12 Free Throws

How can anyone see that stat and not think the game was rigged?


Why would the nba rig such a meaningless game that wasn’t even on national TV?

Outside of the Nova three, we played like crap collectively. Soft on defense and perhaps too reliant on Brunson on offense. We didn’t deserve to win.


Because Wemby was playing against a huge market team.

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Post#176 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:34 am

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sol537 wrote:
Why would the nba rig such a meaningless game that wasn’t even on national TV?

Outside of the Nova three, we played like crap collectively. Soft on defense and perhaps too reliant on Brunson on offense. We didn’t deserve to win.


Because Wemby was playing against a huge market team.

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Post#177 » by Capn'O » Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:41 pm

I said it in the game thread but I think with a few adjustments the Spurs win 50 next season. He's that good.
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Post#179 » by Iron Mantis » Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:02 pm

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Post#180 » by Gravy » Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:04 pm

Games like this remind you how much they miss OG and Randle. His 25/10/5 every night should never be taken for granted because of his usual couple of dumb plays. Jalen and Deuce won't be enough against the top teams

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