Bargnani?

SonOfMars · Post #16 » by **SonOfMars** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:10 pm

knicks94 wrote:Third biggest number 1 draft bust in the last twelve years behind Kwame Brown and Greg Oden.

Can injuries really qualify someone as a bust?

GO was great for the 15 minutes he could stay healthy

knicks94 · Post #17 » by **knicks94** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:13 pm

SonOfMars wrote:
knicks94 wrote:Third biggest number 1 draft bust in the last twelve years behind Kwame Brown and Greg Oden.

Can injuries really qualify someone as a bust?

GO was great for the 15 minutes he could stay healthy

Any player that gets drafted so high and doesn't turn out to have a successful NBA career due to either lack of talent, motivation or good health is a bust.

DE FENSE · Post #18 » by **DE FENSE** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:14 pm

StephNYKurry wrote:Hol'up, did he say trade Tyson for 'em?

TrueWarrior · Post #19 » by **TrueWarrior** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:15 pm

Eh injuries are a little different than lack of talent or motivation. Oden was becoming a monster and would prob be the best center in the game right now if he was healthy.

Rasho Brezec · Post #20 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:15 pm

There are only two Bargnani trades I would make. One is this:

nykballa2k4 wrote:Amare and Novak for Gay and Bargnani

And the other one is:

Amare and Novak for Bargnani, Amir Johnson, Linas Kleiza and Terence Ross

They can keep that 7ft SG.

Pharmcat · Post #21 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:16 pm

bargnani + fields for amare

get it done grunnie

bargnani can be the stretch 4 next to melo and tyson

knicks94 · Post #22 » by **knicks94** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:18 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:Eh injuries are a little different than lack of talent or motivation. Oden was becoming a monster and would prob be the best center in the game right now if he was healthy.

No team would have drafted him had they've known he would be injury prone.

CKamm1 · Post #23 » by **CKamm1** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:21 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
CKamm1 wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:Amare and Novak for Gay and Bargnani

Christ no

Why, we need spacing for Melo and a healthy 2nd scorer.

Rudy Gay is a zero impact player who adds next nothing in the way of winning basketball games despite the 18 points a game he'll score. I would hope keeping Bargnani far far away from this team would be obvious.

knicks94 · Post #24 » by **knicks94** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:22 pm

If every coach in the NBA coached like D'antoni or Woodson this would be the perfect trade for anyone seeking to have an impact player on their roster, as those are the only two NBA coaches that I know of who allow players like Bargnani to have their way with the open three.

Greenie · Post #25 » by **Greenie** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:23 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:Amare and Novak for Gay and Bargnani

now this we can do

Fat · Post #26 » by **Fat** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:24 pm

Bargnani & Valincunas for Tyson and you got yourself a deal

If we trade tyson we MUST receive a big back in return

Post #27 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:26 pm

I'd lose alot of faith in Grunwald if Bargnani became a Knick.

Pharmcat · Post #28 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:28 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:I'd lose alot of faith in Grunwald if Bargnani became a Knick.

dude stretches the floor, can hit the 3, perfect space creator for melo to do his thing and felton tyson to do the P and R

Rasho Brezec · Post #29 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:28 pm

He also doesn't rebound and shows up only on full moons.

Pharmcat · Post #30 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:30 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:He also doesn't rebound and shows up only on full moons.

sorta like amare these days :lol:

CKamm1 · Post #31 » by **CKamm1** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:31 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I'd lose alot of faith in Grunwald if Bargnani became a Knick.

dude stretches the floor, can hit the 3, perfect space creator for melo to do his thing and felton tyson to do the P and R

Novak's a better shooter for far cheaper. What else does Bargnani bring to the table then?

FerreroRocher · Post #32 » by **FerreroRocher** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:31 pm

Trading a rebounder for a non-rebounder. Wake up Grunny!

Post #33 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:31 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I'd lose alot of faith in Grunwald if Bargnani became a Knick.

dude stretches the floor, can hit the 3, perfect space creator for melo to do his thing and felton tyson to do the P and R

He only does that 40% of the time.

The other times he's dodging rebounds and wont play a lick of defense.

I'd rather stay with amare than to have that piece of scrubtastic on the team.

Pharmcat · Post #34 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:32 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I'd lose alot of faith in Grunwald if Bargnani became a Knick.

dude stretches the floor, can hit the 3, perfect space creator for melo to do his thing and felton tyson to do the P and R

He only does that 40% of the time.

The other times he's dodging rebounds and wont play a lick of defense.

I'd rather stay with amare than to have that piece of scrubtastic on the team.

amares knees have failed him, while bargs has had injury bug, his injuries are not career threatening like amare

Pharmcat · Post #35 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 5:32 pm

CKamm1 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I'd lose alot of faith in Grunwald if Bargnani became a Knick.

dude stretches the floor, can hit the 3, perfect space creator for melo to do his thing and felton tyson to do the P and R

Novak's a better shooter for far cheaper. What else does Bargnani bring to the table then?

bargs is taller, can get his shot off better, and is not a stationary shooter like novak