Savageknick2190 wrote:Nazrmohamed wrote:Savageknick2190 wrote:People have to stop comparing Frank to KP. KP was much more polished as a player when he was drafted in his moves than Frank is now and it was said KP may need 2 years. Now it didnt take that long for him but Frank is not at the same skill level in their develiopment at that same draft age. If you put him out there now and play him high minutes he will turn over ball at a great rate. It will kill his confidence and could hurt his future output. Getting this type of player you must take it slow with him or you could lose him early. Remember its not just learning the nba but the usa as well. Just because KP did it well doesnt mean every kid will do it as well or in the same way.
I wouldn't say that. I think you see a jumpshot and assume that means development. To me KP is not far along at all, which is very promising actually. Most things is about shooting, which is a skill for sure but its more of an assisted platform. I thibk KP has a ways to go in terms of creating offense, post moves or in isolation. And then the raw strength aspect as well.
I think Frank has a lower curling ceiling and may surprise alot of people with his ability to contribute right away. I don't get this bring him along slowly mentality. We're gonna lose alot of games folks. Lets get over it. These guys need to build chemistry early on. But he's 6'5 with a good weight. That's not skills but physicality makes a huge difference and remember hesFrench. When have we known a French player to come over and not be physicality ready to play. They may be in different skill tiers but you never know one to be soft. I don't expect Frank to be either. He shoots just as well. His development curve is more about pure pg skills but
- we run the triangle and Ron Baker was successful at it last year.
- I happen to think he can play SG. At 6'5 what if I told you he was a prolific, playmaking SG more than a flawed pg
When was a French player drafted and wasnt physically ready to play? The answer would be Frederic Weis drafted by the Knicks. Very soft so much so he could never make it on to a NBA court after being drafted. Ron Baker was solid I would not call anything he did successful. How do you know Frank can shoot as well as KP? KP gave private workouts to teams here in the us to show how well he could shoot. Frank shot 40 percent on threes on a team where he barely got to shoot. When he did shoot the three point distance is not our own nba three point distance. All this to say its only natural for it to take some time. The assumptions you are making will only lead to your disappointment when he is unable to meet those high demands so early in his development.
Well you definitley got me on Fred Weiss. That hurt me so much that I had doubts about any euro since. I even had doubts kp would show up. Thanks bro for bringing up buried feelings, I thought I was cured lol.
But back to Frank, if there's one thing Ive never done in my life is get up or down on any draft prospect. And it goes both ways, I avoid the hype as they develop and when this same people are then tearing the player apart in thier sophmore year....WHICH KNICK FANS ALWAYS DO....I tend to see the big picture. If you can't make it past a players rookie contract then you me you can't develop players, simple as that.
But in Franks case Id like to see him start. For me is also about solidifying the youth movement. It sends a message. I love Carmelo but want him gone. I don't live the way Phil does things necessarily but it's out there. The Knicks wanna go in a different direction and to sit lottery picked rookies and play vets in thier absence just gives Melo hope. Id hate to see Melo benched but Id do it if I have to as well. Now what I COULD endorse is Frank playing off the ball next to a pure pg. He played off the ball alot in France, we could do that here. And here and there give him pg duties and watch him develop that way. He's a combo guard in the triangle, which means being pure is not really all that critical
