OFFICIAL - Amare Must Go Thread (all hate here) #TRADESTAT

[_Nashoholic_]

It's OK guys. Amare sucks this year, but imagine how good he will be next year when Nash is his PG! Knicks = 2012 Champs

[_Nashoholic_]

You guys will be calling Amare a God when Nash spoon feeds him to 49% shooting and 26 ppg next year

[albert]

Top 10 Excuses/Responses for Amare's Pathetic Defensive Play:

1) Amare is clearly suffering from the coach's system which obviously never goes over defense.
2) Amare is clearly out of shape and is struggling as a result from his back injury.
3) Amare is clearly suffering from lack of training camp and practice time with his new teammates.
4) Amare can be hidden behind Tyson Chandler since Dallas did it with Dirk.
5) Amare can co-exist with Melo, he just needs to be more aggressive on offense.
6) Amare clearly needs a real point guard.
7) Amare isn't the only one that's bad defensively on the Knicks.
8) Amare saved our franchise and carried our team to the playoffs last year so he is untouchable and you are a traitor for suggesting otherwise.
9) Amare blocked LeBron that one time.
10) The Suns made it to the WCF with Amare, so the Knicks can definitely win with Amare.

All of these points have been refuted on this board or are just examples of poor reasoning.

So again I ask: how can people actually believe we can be a legitimate title contender with Amare at the 4? I have no desire to tread water and be in mid-lottery/mediocre playoff squad hell when we have our real franchise player and our defensive anchor locked up for the next 5 years.

Dump Amare for expirings and picks. Or for a serviceable PF or PG. Build a team that doesn't rely on lip service coming from a joke of a player.

#TRADESTAT

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

I wana trade him for DLee, and Wright.

Having DLee here would make us easily the best rebounding team in the East, maybe the NBA. We would show more effort on defense and be more fundamental. There would be less turnovers, less isolation, more of a fluid offense. Dorrel Wright would mainly help ensure this. Wright is a solid scorer, and can surely knock down the 3. This would make us a much better basketball team, and we would do more of "playing the right way".

[DowNY]

I wana trade him for DLee, and Wright.

Having DLee here would make us easily the best rebounding team in the East, maybe the NBA. We would show more effort on defense and be more fundamental. There would be less turnovers, less isolation, more of a fluid offense. Dorrel Wright would mainly help ensure this. Wright is a solid scorer, and can surely knock down the 3. This would make us a much better basketball team, and we would do more of "playing the right way".

How about Lee/Wright/Ellis for Amar'e/Fields/TD/Walker/future 1st?

[nyc1695]

I wana trade him for DLee, and Wright.

Having DLee here would make us easily the best rebounding team in the East, maybe the NBA. We would show more effort on defense and be more fundamental. There would be less turnovers, less isolation, more of a fluid offense. Dorrel Wright would mainly help ensure this. Wright is a solid scorer, and can surely knock down the 3. This would make us a much better basketball team, and we would do more of "playing the right way".

How about Lee/Wright/Ellis for Amar'e/Fields/TD/Walker/future 1st?

I think Ellis and Melo would be a disaster. No ball movement whatsoever.

[blumatic]

TRADE TRADE TRADE. Ugh. Its a shame what's going on. This feels so much like the Marbury era.

[Thugger HBC]

I wana trade him for DLee, and Wright.

Having DLee here would make us easily the best rebounding team in the East, maybe the NBA. We would show more effort on defense and be more fundamental. There would be less turnovers, less isolation, more of a fluid offense. Dorrel Wright would mainly help ensure this. Wright is a solid scorer, and can surely knock down the 3. This would make us a much better basketball team, and we would do more of "playing the right way".

How about Lee/Wright/Ellis for Amar'e/Fields/TD/Walker/future 1st?

I think Ellis and Melo would be a disaster. No ball movement whatsoever.

ironically they are both leading their teams in assists while their pg's have been injured.

[DowNY]

I wana trade him for DLee, and Wright.

Having DLee here would make us easily the best rebounding team in the East, maybe the NBA. We would show more effort on defense and be more fundamental. There would be less turnovers, less isolation, more of a fluid offense. Dorrel Wright would mainly help ensure this. Wright is a solid scorer, and can surely knock down the 3. This would make us a much better basketball team, and we would do more of "playing the right way".

How about Lee/Wright/Ellis for Amar'e/Fields/TD/Walker/future 1st?

I think Ellis and Melo would be a disaster. No ball movement whatsoever.

I don't think that. Based on this season, it seems like Monta's game is maturing. It might be slower than most, lol but it is. I think he can come here with Melo and be successful. Especially with Tyson/Lee paired down low. Would be 2nd best 2/3 combo to Wade/Lebron. Of course with D'antoni, there would be times where Monta would play the 1 and Shumpert play the 2 but Monta actually has great handle and wouldn't be asked to make spectacular passes. We can do this trade at the deadline and still have the MLE to target some quality player(s). We would also have a better chance at winning games when Melo is out or something with Dorrell Wright backing him up instead of Walker/Fields.

[makeitstop]

TRADE TRADE TRADE. Ugh. Its a shame what's going on. This feels so much like the Marbury era.

It's worse than the Marbs era. Way worse.

[CharlesOakley]

This thread is an embarrassment. Two words for the haters - SAMPLE SIZE. Another two words - Shite coach.

Get a clue. If you guys were trading stocks your strategy would be buy high and sell low. Not profitable.

[knicks_09fan]

We shoudn't be selling low, forget about trading stat or melo, it is still early. It is frustrating indeed, but just hope and believe the best is yet to come, just hope baron is healthy and we wil be more than just fine...

[Nutty Nats Fan]

This thread is an embarrassment. Two words for the haters - SAMPLE SIZE. Another two words - **** coach.

Get a clue. If you guys were trading stocks your strategy would be buy high and sell low. Not profitable.

Get a clue. Some of us were against the panic signing Amare was and wanted him traded over the summer. That has nothing to do with sample size. And obviously, no one wants him traded unless it is a good deal.

[knicksosmoove]

how do people feel about andrea bargnani? i think he and melo complement each other extremely well. plus he is quite young.

[Clyde_Style]

This thread is an embarrassment. Two words for the haters - SAMPLE SIZE. Another two words - **** coach.

Get a clue. If you guys were trading stocks your strategy would be buy high and sell low. Not profitable.

Get a clue. Some of us were against the panic signing Amare was and wanted him traded over the summer. That has nothing to do with sample size. And obviously, no one wants him traded unless it is a good deal.

We've gone over this Charles. The sample size is not just this season. Amare this season has been a bust, but he wasn't even that great the second half of last season.

He went from being the hero for a 20 game stretch and then burned out and he has never been the same. Whatever his mindset is now, he clearly is not the same player he was physically when he came to New York.

A lot has changed in a year and when you pout about criticism of Amare you are stuck in the past and clinging to your image of him as he once was. He certainly should be able to bounce back and play better since he has nowhere to go up now after sucking so bad this season, but that is not the same as saying he is necessarily ever going to play at high level consistently again.

Considering he barely plays defense for even a full quarter at a time, when his offense game drops off as much as it has you have little basis for acting so offended when people speak the observable truth about the status of his playing.

He has been on a downward trend for 50-60 games after he peaked and blew his wad earlier last season.

So enough with put downs of others posters already. We're here critiquing the team and players because this is a sports board, not a bash the other fans who don't agree with you board.

[Thugger HBC]

This thread is an embarrassment. Two words for the haters - SAMPLE SIZE. Another two words - **** coach.

Get a clue. If you guys were trading stocks your strategy would be buy high and sell low. Not profitable.

Get a clue. Some of us were against the panic signing Amare was and wanted him traded over the summer. That has nothing to do with sample size. And obviously, no one wants him traded unless it is a good deal.

Exactly. His contract is an albatross, and it became one immediately after he signed it, so much that we all cheered for the amnesty clause, as an "Amar'e insurance" clause.

But obviously if traded, we'd want some quality pieces back, and Amar'e could garner that, if he were playing better.

[Thugger HBC]

Marc Stein is reporting Devin Harris is available and the Jazz are looking to trade him.

He wouldn't be my personal choice, but if good pieces were included with him, I would consider.

Amar'e and Balkman for Devin Harris, Raja Bell, Earl Watson, Josh Howard + pick.

It would satisfy the teams needs on both ends.

Amar'e brings a marquee player to the Jazz, along with an energy boost off the bench.

Knicks acquire depth and flexibility.

Lin, Bibby waived in the process.

[seren]

Marc Stein is reporting Devin Harris is available and the Jazz are looking to trade him.

He wouldn't be my personal choice, but if good pieces were included with him, I would consider.

Amar'e and Balkman for Devin Harris, Raja Bell, Earl Watson, Josh Howard + pick.

It would satisfy the teams needs on both ends.

Amar'e brings a marquee player to the Jazz, along with an energy boost off the bench.

Knicks acquire depth and flexibility.

Lin, Bibby waived in the process.

All Utah needs is more big men and less guards. LOL.

[Thugger HBC]

Marc Stein is reporting Devin Harris is available and the Jazz are looking to trade him.

He wouldn't be my personal choice, but if good pieces were included with him, I would consider.

Amar'e and Balkman for Devin Harris, Raja Bell, Earl Watson, Josh Howard + pick.

It would satisfy the teams needs on both ends.

Amar'e brings a marquee player to the Jazz, along with an energy boost off the bench.

Knicks acquire depth and flexibility.

Lin, Bibby waived in the process.

All Utah needs is more big men and less guards. LOL.

Milsap, Jefferon, Kanter, Favors are their big men, while half of their roster are guards.

Not sure why you responded to this and be that far wrong.

[4PointPlay]

Marc Stein is reporting Devin Harris is available and the Jazz are looking to trade him.

He wouldn't be my personal choice, but if good pieces were included with him, I would consider.

Amar'e and Balkman for Devin Harris, Raja Bell, Earl Watson, Josh Howard + pick.

It would satisfy the teams needs on both ends.

Amar'e brings a marquee player to the Jazz, along with an energy boost off the bench.

Knicks acquire depth and flexibility.

Lin, Bibby waived in the process.

All Utah needs is more big men and less guards. LOL.

Milsap, Jefferon, Kanter, Favors are their big men, while half of their roster are guards.

Not sure why you responded to this and be that far wrong.

Milsap, Jefferon, Kanter, Favors are all more PFs than they are Cs. Adding Amar'e would give them 5 PFs. Tyson for Devin makes more sense, but still not a smart trade for us.